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  • Sasha
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    I fucking hate hashtag mentality but whatever. Here’s my issue. Why no one is complaining that to get nominated or win Oscar 99% of time you have to make a drama or star in dramatic role? Like seriously!? Why Academy hates comedy so much? And especially comedians? Jim Carrey, Cameron Diaz or Adam Sandler (don’t laugh, with right material he can be good!) made shitload of money for Hollywood’s bigwigs and have never been recognized by Academy. And don’t get me even started on Old Hollywood. Marilyn Monroe anyone? For fuck’s sake Some Like It Hot is considered to be the best comedy of all time and it was snubbed in BP category. Jack Lemmon gave one for ages performance and lost to your typical vanilla leading hero. Poor Monroe wasn’t even nominated. Renee Zellweger fucking killed her competition for BJD and yet she was treated like filler nominee. Why is that? Why no one’s complaining about that? It’s much harder to make people laugh than make them cry. And I’m not talking about faux comedies such as American Hustle or another pos, I’m talking about lol comedies. They’re never properly recognized. Melissa McCarthy should have fucking won that Globe because Spy was an actual comedy and she was riot and to whom she lost? To The Anointed One in drama, no sorry, ‘dramedy’. Fuck that shit! I want comedy and comedic performancees getting proper recognition!

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    With the exception of the Adam Sandler mention (he’s terrible) I do agree.

    Dramatic films are considered “worthy” while comedies are considered as “stupid fun”.  It’s just unfair.

    “Spy” is probably among my Top 10 finalists this year….such funny, but also smart and incredibly human little comedy about a non-typicial hero with full of laughs and quality time. Tell me another Hollywood Comedy which has a 40+ over-weight mother of two as the action hero and protagonist…..it was so lovely too see McCarthy (who is one of our greatest actresses with the right material) over some irritating young hotshot who cannot act like Chris H. or Henry Cavill.

    Enough about the baity dramas….give chance for guality comedy films!

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    babypook
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    It’s so biased, dont they have their own Comedy Awards?

     

    Depends on the comedy. My favorite happens to be Being There. That won an Oscar for Melvyn Douglas and a nod for Peter Sellers. But nothing for Hal Ashby or Jersy Kosinski.

    Then there’s Dr Strangelove. Four Oscar nods there, with a Picture, Director, Actor and Screenplay in the mix. No wins.

    Of course, we have A Fish Called Wanda. An actual win for Kevin Kline! O-M-G! I also happen to love the follow up, Fierce Creatures. But, no.

    The comedies coming out now, such as Spy, some I find are very good, and have something to say, and have terrific perfs and timing. Others, are crass, boorish, and embarassing.

    But the Comedy genre is egregiously overlooked almost all the time. Even worse than musicals and even horror.

    Why? I suppose it’s a “sin” to laugh or enjoy yourself at the movies. Enjoyment clearly means the film is beneath Oscar’s dignity, which, if they think they have that, well then, I’m so happy for them.

    Or perhaps, when I film makes fun of women, and includes a humilating scene where she is “exposed” while in the shower, and has war in the background, that’s a hard-on. Dont get me wrong. Overall, I like MASH and especially Robert Altman. But that film won for it’s Screenplay, with a total of five nominations.

    Some of my favorites?

    Galaxy Quest

    Bowfinger

    Hot Fuzz/ShawnDead

    Harold and Maude

    Monty Python and the Holy Grail (and it’s follow-ups)

    Groundhog Day

    This is Spinal Tap

    and one which “cleaned up”, Annie Hall.

    There are a bunch of others as well, that I’m happy to have seen and have a copy of.

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    Tonbone
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    One thing that outraged me about the Oscar nominations is usually in the best original screenplay category they nominate one or two comedies this year they didn’t nominate any comedies in that category (unless you count Inside Out which I don’t) when they could have nominated Trainwreck or Spy. What is the deal with that?

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    Tonbone
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    I fucking hate hashtag mentality but whatever. Here’s my issue. Why no one is complaining that to get nominated or win Oscar 99% of time you have to make a drama or star in dramatic role? Like seriously!? Why Academy hates comedy so much? And especially comedians? Jim Carrey, Cameron Diaz or Adam Sandler (don’t laugh, with right material he can be good!) made shitload of money for Hollywood’s bigwigs and have never been recognized by Academy. And don’t get me even started on Old Hollywood. Marilyn Monroe anyone? For fuck’s sake Some Like It Hot is considered to be the best comedy of all time and it was snubbed in BP category. Jack Lemmon gave one for ages performance and lost to your typical vanilla leading hero. Poor Monroe wasn’t even nominated. Renee Zellweger fucking killed her competition for BJD and yet she was treated like filler nominee. Why is that? Why no one’s complaining about that? It’s much harder to make people laugh than make them cry. And I’m not talking about faux comedies such as American Hustle or another pos, I’m talking about lol comedies. They’re never properly recognized. Melissa McCarthy should have fucking won that Globe because Spy was an actual comedy and she was riot and to whom she lost? To The Anointed One in drama, no sorry, ‘dramedy’. Fuck that shit! I want comedy and comedic performancees getting proper recognition!

    Do you not consider “Birdman” last year’s winner a comedy? I thought it was a farce and a satire.

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    Daniel Montgomery
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    One theory I have about the comedy shortfall: It’s harder to get people to agree on what’s funny than what’s dramatic. Most viewers can watch “Room” and agree on how harrowing the plight is, or watch “Spotlight” and agree what an outrage the Catholic Church sex abuse scandal was. But you put the same comedy in front of two different people — one might laugh out loud, the other might shrug. I think that’s why it’s rarer for a straight comedy to get unanimous raves.

    Then the other problem: I think Oscar voters want their awards, and their individual votes to feel important. You vote for a movie about abuse, the Holocaust, survival, real-life stories about real-life heroes, and you can feel like you’re supporting something important, making a statement, or making a difference, as opposed to one of those frivolous comedies whose only goal is the make you laugh. Laughing isn’t important. Laughing is entertainment, but art is a serious business, so serious business must be art! Sometime that’s the case, sometimes not so much.

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    While I think Amy Adams was very good in Big Eyes, I do agree about Rose Byrne. She’s a freakin comedic genious! Spy…Neighbors…Get Him to Greek…Bridesmaids! She’s just amazing!

    In the Bedroom was also pretty good, but I once again agree about Renée Zellweger in BJ as being WAY WAY WAY better (she should have won or Kidman) than Spacek and Berry.

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    ENGLAND
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    Kathleen Turner was SNUBBED for Serial Mom. She would have been my winner for that year. I know I am alone on this

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    When Harry Met Sally should have been such a bigger contender than original screenplay. Why didn’t Meg Ryan and Billy Crystal get nominations? Imagine today Meg Ryan’s classic diner scene being her Oscar clip.

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    babypook
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    When Harry Met Sally should have been such a bigger contender than original screenplay. Why didn’t Meg Ryan and Billy Crystal get nominations? Imagine today Meg Ryan’s classic diner scene being her Oscar clip.

     

    Well, women arent “allowed” to have orgasms, faked or otherwise.

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    [quote=”heyitsmegrif4″]

    When Harry Met Sally should have been such a bigger contender than original screenplay. Why didn’t Meg Ryan and Billy Crystal get nominations? Imagine today Meg Ryan’s classic diner scene being her Oscar clip.

     

    Well, women arent “allowed” to have orgasms, faked or otherwise.

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    Couldn’t they just say she was possessed by that ring from Lord of the Rings? I mean same thing really.

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    babypook
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    [quote=”babypook”]

    [quote=”heyitsmegrif4″]

    When Harry Met Sally should have been such a bigger contender than original screenplay. Why didn’t Meg Ryan and Billy Crystal get nominations? Imagine today Meg Ryan’s classic diner scene being her Oscar clip.

     

    Well, women arent “allowed” to have orgasms, faked or otherwise.

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    Couldn’t they just say she was possessed by that ring from Lord of the Rings? I mean same thing really.
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    Lol! They’d have to make THREE of them wouldnt they, over a period of seven years or so. Lucky Meg!

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    All-Seeing Eye
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    Um, the fact that you’re comparing #OscarSoWhite to this is eyerolling. Comedy is harder to pull off and doesn’t hold up as often to a rewatch. That’s why.

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    FreemanGriffin
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    The best comedy I saw in 2015 was the French film Bad (Serial) Weddings (a very bad translation of the original french title). The film was an irreverent politically incorrect look at a Catholic family for which each of the daughter’s but one is married to a non-catholic from a different religion, and then the fourth daughter is going to marry a catholic but he’s “black”. I have never heard so much laughter from an audience in my life! We rocked with laughter! The film did not get distributed for all of you to see it – I think it would have been a rare box office foreign language hit. I also think that if a film producer can find the right balance and do it with a conservative right-wing american family rather than religion, they would have a huge hit that would be an Oscar favorite. But they would have to really work on the script hard, find the right director, and cast the roles just right. I agree with Daniel Montgomery: comedy is harder to quantify and get everyone to agree on what is funny and what isn’t. I thought The Big Short was a great comedy that also was dramatic but quite a few people didn’t appreciate it’s humor. The Martian was a drama with some funny lines, but HFPA picked it as the best comedy of the year – go figure!

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