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  • Beau S.
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    #97963

    Christopher Nolan honestly did a phenomenal job portraying villains in his Batman trilogy, with amazing performances from Heath Ledger and Tom Hardy.

    Obviously Nolan couldn’t cover all of the Batman villains in 3 movies, so here’s the chance to discuss other Batman villains and how they could have been portrayed.

    Keep in mind that the initial plan Warner Bros. had for The Dark Knight Rises was to have the film’s villains be The Riddler played by Leonardo DiCaprio and Harley Quinn played by Kristen Bell or Juno Temple. 

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    vinny
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    #97965

    These would be my choices for actors for my favorite villians that Nolan did not use (but I’m still holding out hope that he will eventually return to the franchise)

    The Riddler – Leonardo DiCaprio or Eddie Murphy
    Harley Quinn – Kristien Bell
    Hush – Vin Deisel
    The Mad Hatter – Johnny Depp
    Mr. Freeze – (and this is an odd choice in the eyes of some but I think he would nail it) Jason Statham
    Poision Ivy – Jessica Chastain or Lindsay Lohan (odd choice again but it could easily be her big comeback)
    Skin Talker – Jean Dujardin
    The Penguin – (while Danny Devito did a great job I think this actor could really make the role pop) Phillip Seymor Hoffman
    Planet Master – Daniel Day-Lewis               

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    delerian
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    Poision Ivy – Jessica Chastain or Lindsay Lohan (odd choice again but it could easily be her big comeback)

    Oh, dear God. Lindsay Lohan has trouble guest starring on TV shows without showing up late and then stealing the wardrobe. If she was cast for a Batman film, the studio would probably fire and blacklist the casting director with good cause. And if that didn’t happen, the other actors would probably walk out.

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    BrokenFan
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    Definitely the Riddler. I think that could have been done, if done correctly. I can see Benedict Cumberbatch playing the Riddler or Kevin Spacey! :O

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    Macbeth
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    Definitely the Riddler. I think that could have been done, if done correctly. I can see Benedict Cumberbatch playing the Riddler or Kevin Spacey! :O

    The sad part is that I want both of those actors to play The Riddler, but that will never happen
    The thought of Cumberbatch playing my favorite Batman villain – mindblowing

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    Macbeth
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    #97969

    I always thought the third film should be called “The Caped Crusader”
    However, If Nolan returns to the franchise, he can still use this title

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    Mr. Freeze (based on the origins created for the character specificially for his appearance on Batman: The Animated Series) – Christopher Waltz

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    Macbeth
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    Mr. Freeze (based on the origins created for the character specificially for his appearance on Batman: The Animated Series– Christoph Waltz

    I would explode inside. This would be the greatest piece of casting ever

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    I’m probably getting too carried away, but…

    Clayface and Annie

    Tom Cruise (remember Clayface is supposed to have been an extremely vain and superficial actor; think of his work in Magnolia) and Quvenzhané Wallis.   Also starring:

    Christian Bale – Batman/Bruce Wayne
    Joseph Gordon-Levitt – Robin/Nightwing/John Blake
    Jessica Chastain – Batgirl/Oracle/Barbara Gordon

    Based on the episode “Growing Pains” of Batman: The Animated Series.  The following as source material would be perfect because it would allow the creators to focus more on establishing Robin (Levitt’s character)  without completely eliminating Batman (Bale).  The possibilities as to how they could continue expanding Batman’s world are endless.  I would blend the best of all his incarnations (70’s/80’s/90’s storylines, the animated series, Burton’s personal stamp, etc.) and create one massive cinema world that still encompasses Nolan’s work.  They could even build up to adapting The Dark Knight Returns depicting Batman in his 40’s-60’s.

    Episode 8 of Season 3 “Growing Pains” Clayface Atsuko Tanaka Paul Dini and Robert Goodman February 28, 1998

    Robin fights to protect a young girl with amnesia named Annie who is
    being stalked by her “father”, who turns out to be Clayface. Having
    created the girl from his own body to scout out the city, he now intends
    to reabsorb her.

    Plot: Barely alive after dissolving after the events of “Mudslide”, Clayface
    (or his remains) drift near a pipe leaking strange chemicals into the
    ocean which combine with Clayface’s remains to restore his strength.
    Still weakened, Clayface sends a portion of himself which takes the form
    of a little girl (voiced by Francesca Marie Smith)
    to see if the city is still safe for him to resurface. The girl
    unexpectedly develops an individual personality and leaves him,
    wandering around Gotham with no memory of who she is. During one of his
    patrols, Robin encounters the girl and develops an affection for her,
    naming her “Annie”. During this time, Clayface poses as the girl’s abusive
    father, committing various robberies in order to make a living in the
    sewers of Gotham. Eventually, Clayface recovers, cornering Robin and
    Annie, who allows herself to be reabsorbed (effectively killing her) to
    save Robin. Enraged by Annie’s “death”, Robin almost kills Clayface with
    gallons of solvent, but Batman intervenes and stops him, and the villain is arrested and imprisoned in Arkham Asylum. When Commissioner Gordon lists the charges Clayface is accused of, Robin quietly adds murder as one of them.

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    [quote=”vinman422″]

    Poision Ivy – Jessica Chastain or Lindsay Lohan (odd choice again but it could easily be her big comeback)

    Oh, dear God. Lindsay Lohan has trouble guest starring on TV shows without showing up late and then stealing the wardrobe. If she was cast for a Batman film, the studio would probably fire and blacklist the casting director with good cause. And if that didn’t happen, the other actors would probably walk out.[/quote]

    I think that it could work.  

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    Titanium
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    Mr. Freeze (based on the origins created for the character specificially for his appearance on Batman: The Animated Series) – Christopher Waltz

    😮 seriously this is just perfect casting!!!  

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    Titanium
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    My choice for Harley Quinn would be Lily Rabe. I think she’s the most underrated actress of today (although my profile picture may have given that away) and as Sister Mary Eunice in American Horror Story she proved that she has all the characteristics I think the Nolanverse’s Harley Quinn would need – meek, mild and unassuming at first, but after corruption becoming a wild, sultry, ruthless, larger than life, snarky, black humoured, morbid, over-sexualised, power hungry, show-stealing psychopath!

    I think Nolan’s Harley Quinn would be less submissive than the usual Harley, simply because since Heath Ledger died, it would be impossible to show her and Joker’s relationship, instead the film would probably have her as an Arkham psychologist who becomes obsessed with the journals, diagrams and weapon plans which Joker left behind before he vanished from Arkham and was never heard from again, and becomes determined to continue his work for him. So she’d have to be independant, and therefore be more criminal mastermind, than villain moll (although Harley is so much more than a villain moll).

    Also I agree that Philip Seymour Hoffman was born to play the Penguin and Leonardo DiCaprio for the Riddler. I think Kevin Spacey would be better as someone like Black Mask since Nolan’s Riddler I think would be quite similar to Spacey’s Se7en character. And I think Jessica Chastain is versatile enough to basically play about every female Batman character; Barbara Gordon (as herself, Batgirl and/or Oracle), Poison Ivy and Harley Quinn.

    Also I know she isn’t a villain per se but I would’ve loved it if Dr Leslie Thompkins was played by Emma Thompson, or preferably Jessica Lange.  

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    ^ Rabe would be interesting but too young, I think.  For a real poignant portrait of Harley Quinn, they should pick someone older but still able to convey a youthful presence.  I think Laura Dern would be perfect and actually possesses that same je ne sais quoi quality that Rabe possesses in terms of talent and appearance.  Also, it would be more disturbing and, again, poignant seeing a 40-something year old acting like she’s in her 20’s.  A 20-30 year old vamping it up is just so boring sometimes.

       

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    vinny
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    ^ Rabe would be interesting but too young, I think.  For a real poignant portrait of Harley Quinn, they should pick someone older but still able to convey a youthful presence.  I think Laura Dern would be perfect and actually possesses that same je ne sais quoi quality that Rabe possesses in terms of talent and appearance.  Also, it would be more disturbing and, again, poignant seeing a 40-something year old acting like she’s in her 20’s.  A 20-30 year old vamping it up is just so boring sometimes.

       

    That’s a really good idea.  

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    Daniel B.
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    Christopher Nolan honestly did a phenomenal job portraying villains in his Batman trilogy, with amazing performances from Heath Ledger and Tom Hardy.

    Obviously Nolan couldn’t cover all of the Batman villains in 3 movies, so here’s the chance to discuss other Batman villains and how they could have been portrayed.

    Keep in mind that the initial plan Warner Bros. had for The Dark Knight Rises was to have the film’s villains be The Riddler played by Leonardo DiCaprio and Harley Quinn played by Kristen Bell or Juno Temple. 

    I hadn’t read that before, but now I’m disappointed that they didn’t include Harley Quinn in The Dark Knight Rises. It would have been a nice way of finishing up the Joker story rather than pretending like the greatest thing about Nolan’s Batman trilogy never even existed.

    I for one was not a big fan of Tom Hardy’s take on Bane. I couldn’t get over how he just sounded like he was doing a Sean Connery impression the whole time. Couldn’t take him very seriously.

    The Riddler also would have been a nice addition to the movie, but I’m not sure how I feel about the idea of DiCaprio playing the part. If we were to take another actor from Nolan’s filmography (as we know how much he loves to re-use many of the same actors), I think Guy Pearce (Memento), Joe Pantoliano (Memento) or Robin Williams (Insomnia), who actually wanted the part, would have been more suitable for the role.  Even Hugh Jackman (The Prestige) or Matthew McConaughey (the upcoming Interstellar) would have been better than Leo.

    I still think that despite what Nolan has said about how the Peguin wouldn’t work in his style of Batman films, I think the character could work as a gangster (who perhaps gets the nickname simply because he chooses to wear tuxedos), played by Philip Seymour Hoffman (whose rumoured casting I always thought was a great idea), or perhaps Bob Hoskins.

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