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Other occurences of the “Bening vs. Swank” phenomenon

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  • Beau S.
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    In the Best Actress thread somebody brought up that both Bening and Swank are serious contenders yet again, just like they were in 1999 and 2004, the years that Bening and Swank (in)famously faced each other twice and Swank won both times.

    Are there any other examples of a contender who lost twice to the same person?

    The only other example I can think of is Steven Spielberg (2005 for Munich and 2012 for Lincoln) losing twice to Ang Lee (2005 for Brokeback Mountain and 2012 for Life of Pi). I’m sure it’s also happened numerous times in the Best Picture category and many of the tech categories.

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    Ooh, interesting thread. 

    Well, just making an early scan of things, I notice that Charles Boyer lost to Spencer Tracy in consecutive years.

    Same with Irene Dunne losing to Luise Rainer. 

    Basil Rathbone’s only 2 nominations came up against Walter Brennan, who bested him each time. 

    Frank Capra beat out W.S. Van Dyke for two of his Best Director wins.

    Oliver Stone managed to win twice over Woody Allen. 

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    Stardust
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    Blanchett got the last laugh twice.. does that count?

    There appears to be more instances than I’d realized (more will probably be noted). Anyone know if it’s happened thrice in any major category?

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    So much ugly material is highlighted about the personal sins of Alfred Hitchcock, I thought I’d share this.

    Hitchock lost Best Director once in 1945 to Billy Wilder (The Lost Weekend over Spellbound) and faced Wilder in four of his five nominations for the award. In 1960 when Hitchcock made his stunning Psycho and was certainly overdue and a serious contender for Best Director, he again faced formidable competition from Wilder.

    Yet, he wrote the following to Wilder after seeing The Apartment,

    Dear Mr. Wilder,

    I saw The Apartment the other day.

    I cannot tell you how much I enjoyed it, and how beautifully made.

    I felt this so much I was impelled to drop you this note.

    Kindest regards,

    Alfred J. Hitchcock

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    Although Hitchcock certainly deserved to win for PSYCHO, I can’t see how he was a serious contender without it being a best picture nominee.  Even if it was a best picture nominee it did not have it’s legendary status to prompt it as a serious contender, instead it was a small budget & shocking tale of mental disturbance and murder.  The nomination alone is kind of amazing.

    So much ugly material is highlighted about the personal sins of Alfred Hitchcock, I thought I’d share this.

    Hitchock lost Best Director once in 1945 to Billy Wilder (The Lost Weekend over Spellbound) and faced Wilder in four of his five nominations for the award. In 1960 when Hitchcock made his stunning Psycho and was certainly overdue and a serious contender for Best Director, he again faced formidable competition from Wilder.

    Yet, he wrote the following to Wilder after seeing The Apartment,

    Dear Mr. Wilder,

    I saw The Apartment the other day.

    I cannot tell you how much I enjoyed it, and how beautifully made.

    I felt this so much I was impelled to drop you this note.

    Kindest regards,

    Alfred J. Hitchcock

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    Well, I think the Oscars are mostly a matter of timing. That both Swank and Benning were up two times in the same category  is imo more a coincidence. Swank won in 1999 because she gave a tour-de-force performance while Bening was borderline supporting and in 2004 Swank won because that time M$B was big with the Academy and Bening had a comedy role. It’s still rare for actresses to win for comedy, leaving out performances in Musicals or films about Music/Musicians like Walk the Line or La Vie en Rose, only a handful actresses really won for a comedy role.
    I’m not sure if they will be back for round three, but people did get a little nervous when Swank was nominated for a SAG in 2010. Nevertheless, if she had been nominated that year, Swank would not have had a chance in hell to beat Portman.
    And even if both their films (The searchers, The Homesman) would be competentive this year, I don’t think they’de be the favorites to win.
    But, we’ll see.

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    In 1999, Swank and Bening were frontrunners.  But in 2004, Bening was not a frontrunner as she was in a small movie.  It was Swank vs. the rest.

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    Phenomenon is a little bit too big of a word for this. 

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    Walter Brennan and Basil Rathbone in 1936 and 1938 for best supporting actor (Brennan won both but Rathbone had a real shot at beating him in 1936…..1938 not so much)

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    Instead of debating history and criticizing Beau’s word choice why don’t we just answer the question?

    These were at different awards shows but Glenn Close lost the 2004 Emmy for Actress in a Miniseries/TV Movie to Meryl Streep and then lost the 2011 Oscar for Best Actress to Streep again.

    There’s also the famous Rudin vs. Weinstein rivalry. Though Weinstein hasn’t been formally nominated since Gangs of New York, Rudin has lost multiple Oscars to Weinstein-produced films.

    James Cameron, Lee Daniels and Jason Reitman all lost to Kathryn Bigelow twice in one night.

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    Does Martin Scorsese losing two of his very best Best Director nominations to hot actors in their debut count? Raging Bull to Redford and Goodfellas to Costner. Not the same people, but the same sort of bad luck Bening had with Swank.

    Colleen Atwood and Sandy Powell have 3 Oscars each and have beaten each other for all 3 of their respective wins. The only year they were nominated together and lost was in 1998….because Sandy had two nominations and beat herself.

    Alan Menken and his Disney scores beat John Williams three times:
    1989: Little Mermaid won over Williams’ two nominations for 4th of July and Indiana Jones
    1991: Beauty and the Beast over JFK
    1995. Pocahontas over Sabrina 

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    These were at different awards shows but Glenn Close lost the 2004 Emmy for Actress in a Miniseries/TV Movie to Meryl Streep and then lost the 2011 Oscar for Best Actress to Streep again.

    Angels in America was an Emmy juggernaut, though Glenn did at least win the Golden Globe for the Lion in Winter a year later, if I’m correct. For AN, there was no chance she would win. If not Meryl, then obviously Viola Davis would have won.

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    Hilary and Annette won’t be in the same category next year.

    THE HOMESMAN stars Hilary Swank as The Homesman and Tommy Lee Jones. The rest are supporting characters including a very baity Grace Gummer as an insane woman and a intense cameo by Meryl Streep.

    THE SEARCH stars Berenice Bejo and a kid. Annette Bening appears in the climax of the movie as the mother of the child. A similar situation happens to Viola Davis in GET ON UP (She appears at the end of the movie) and both SPOILER Abandoned SPOILER their children.

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    Beau S.
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    THE SEARCH stars Berenice Bejo and a kid. Annette Bening appears in the climax of the movie as the mother of the child. A similar situation happens to Viola Davis in GET ON UP (She appears at the end of the movie) and both SPOILER Abandoned SPOILER their children.

    I’ve heard conflicting reports on this, actually. Some say that Bejo is the mother and Benning is the NGO agent, while others say its Bejo as the agent and Bening as the mother. We probably won’t know for sure until Cannes or when we see a trailer.

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    Actriz
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    I’ve heard conflicting reports on this, actually.
    Some say that Bejo is the mother and Benning is the NGO agent, while
    others say its Bejo as the agent and Bening as the mother. We probably
    won’t know for sure until Cannes or when we see a trailer.

    Logically,
    isn’t it more likely that the non-American Bejo is playing the mother
    of a Chechen child than the American Bening? And that the much younger
    Bejo is playing the mother of a very young boy rather than Bening?

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