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  • Renaton
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    I’m sorry if a thread for this one already exists, and if so, I’ll delete it.

    But the first trailer for “Pacific Rim”, the first film from Guillermo Del Toro since “Hellboy 2” is out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vKz7WnU83E 

    Many will make the inevitable comparisons to “Godzilla” and “Transformers”, but I’m just excited to have one of the best fantasy genre directors back, and that it’s with a anime inspired film (that yes, seems to have many similarities to “Evangelion”, maybe even too many).

    Anyway, the trailer makes a good case for the film I think. I’m excited about the scope of it, we never seen Del Toro do something this big before! And the cast includes some GoldDerby favorites and darlings, such as Charlie Hunnam, Rinko Kikuchi, Charlie Day and Idris Elba, not mention Ron Pearlman (Hellboy Reunion!).

    This has the potential to be quite good. 

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    Raylan
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    #78447

    the cast is amazing im so pumped for this movie.

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    Scottferguson
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    The reviews are mixed

    Variety:

    plays like an extended 3D episode of Mighty Morphin Power Rangers on very expensive acid

    HRep:

    A better and smarter than average humans vs monsters spectacular

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    Tye-Grr
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    This is one of those “review-proof” movies for me… I’m seeing it no matter what. 

    MONSTERS VS ROBOTS x Guillermo Del Toro + Idris Elba, Charlie Day, and Rinko Kikuchi = I don’t care what you say, I’m watching it. 

    This is like my childhood fantasies as a kid come to life. I cannot wait.  

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    Scottferguson
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    My sense of these first two reviews is that they suggest that the film sort of achieved what it was going for, and think that makes it something of a success. A whole bunch of reviews should be out shortly if not already.

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    DamianWayne
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    Variety:

    plays like an extended 3D episode of Mighty Morphin Power Rangers on very expensive acid

    I’m not seeing the negative in this looool.

    (Someone make a new MMPR movie!)

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    Scottferguson
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    Here is a range of responses:

    The Hollywood Reporter:

    Monsters mash, titans clash and humans are behind the eight-ball in Pacific Rim, a staggeringly loud, action-packed FXtravaganza that’s both a numbing and pretty entertaining example of its movie species. It’s Godzilla X 10, as thunderously clangy as any Transformers movie, and it may or may not have been inspired by the 1990s anime Neon Genesis Evangelion. But it also really moves, has an attractive cast to complement the humanity-threatening beasts and, in Guillermo del Toro, a director with a lively appreciation of genre tropes.

    HitFix:

    Guillermo Del Toro’s “Pacific Rim” is a movie that is loaded with images and ideas that are fantastic, in every sense of the word, and yet I worry that we’ve reached a point where audiences shrug at the promise of the new. What Del Toro brings to the table, and not just with this film, is an endless love of the incredible. He has dedicated his career to learning how to sculpt the impossible, using whatever tools he has at his disposal…

    There’s nothing about this film that feels like it is holding back, and I can’t help but feel like Del Toro approached this with the attitude that you only ever get a few opportunities like this, and it would be a crime to spend the entire movie setting up sequels that might never happen.

    The Guardian:

    Pacific Rim is an all-out assault on the mainstream: it’s essentially a huge-scale effects-picture corralling giant human-controlled robots and mammoth alien lizards in an apocalyptic face-off to save the planet. You can see how the pitch meeting went; subtlety isn’t this movie’s middle name.

    These are all fine, accomplished performers, but not exactly in the movie-star league. Del Toro would appear to be taking a leaf out of Roland Emmerich’s book, who took a similar route with his Godzilla remake in the late 90s. The monsters must be the stars.

     

    It does, however, mean that the film is hampered by a fundamental imbalance: Pacific Rim’s wafer-thin psychodrama and plot-generator dialogue provides little for the human component to get their teeth into. Actual wit is in very short supply, particularly in regard to the putative light relief, a couple of shockingly unfunny wacky-scientist types played by Charlie Day and Burn Gorman.

    Telegraph:

     

     

    Pacific Rim begins by defining two new words. The first is “Kaiju”, which means giant beast in Japanese, and the second is “Jaeger”, which is German for hunter. Over the next two hours and 11 minutes, the film goes on to offer a bold, exhaustive and utterly convincing definition of a third word: fun… The giant robot/monster genre has become so weightless, abstracted into digital vapour by the Transformers films and a thousand wannabes, that a master craftsman like del Toro was needed to bring back its thump and clunk.

    Well, he has done – and how.

    Variety:

    Of all the doom-laden fantasies the studios have rolled out this summer, “Pacific Rim” is the one pushing itself most aggressively as guilt-free entertainment, offering up an apocalyptic spectacle in a spirit of unpretentious, unapologetic fun. Which it will be, at least for those who measure fun primarily in terms of noise, chaos and bombast, or who can find continual novelty in the sight of giant monsters and robots doing battle for the better part of two hours. Viewers with less of an appetite for nonstop destruction should brace themselves for the squarest, clunkiest and certainly loudest movie of director Guillermo del Toro’s career, a crushed-metal orgy that plays like an extended 3D episode of “Mighty Morphin Power Rangers” on very expensive acid.

    Indiewire:

    Too in love with itself to ever totally go off the rails, “Pacific Rim” doesn’t qualify as the first full-on dud of del Toro’s career, but it’s hard not to get the sense that something’s missing. By comparison, Gareth Edwards’ 2010 DIY feature “Monsters” featured a similar invasion of colossal aliens, but deepened the premise by using it to explore post-catastrophe trauma and complicated the very idea of the invaders as legitimate bad guys. “Pacific Rim” never bothers to pull apart its juvenile conceits, nor does it take any clever stabs at the allegories embedded in its militant proceedings, a la Paul Verhoeven’s ultra-subversive “Starship Troopers.”

      

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    Renaton
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    If Variety was trying to undersell it, they shouldn’t have made a line as appealing as “an extended 3D episode of Mighty Morphin Power Rangers on very expensive acid”. The idea of the more bonker elements in Power Rangers taken to the extreme with big visual craftmanship really isn’t unappealing.

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    musicreloaded
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    #78454

    Im very excited about Pacific Rim, I hope Del Toro shows Michael Bay how to do a big show with substance and characters.

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    Andrew Eng
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    If Variety was trying to undersell it, they shouldn’t have made a line as appealing as “an extended 3D episode of Mighty Morphin Power Rangers on very expensive acid”. The idea of the more bonker elements in Power Rangers taken to the extreme with big visual craftmanship really isn’t unappealing.

    As an unabashed fan of Power Rangers as a kid (and have some nostalgic affection for it now), taking the Power Ranger elements that made it so cool and combining it with better writing, direction, and characters would be a big win for me, if indeed that is what Pacific Rim has accomplished. 

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    Logan
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    #78456

    This isn’t the name of a porno, correct? We’re not in for another copyright fight, are we?

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    Scottferguson
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    Hollywood Reporter has a report tonight saying that tracking shows Pacific Rim only doing between $25-30 million this weekend, which would make it a flop nearly as big as The Lone Ranger.

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    Tye-Grr
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    That’s a bit premature I’d say, but let’s say it ends up being as such, it wouldn’t surprise me. Even asking some of my friends and co-workers about it, there doesn’t seem to be a lot of excitement or buzz. Oh, well… My brothers and I can say our money will contribute to whatever it’s weekend box office ends up being. Hopefully it ends up having legs and is a surprise hit. It’s bound to do much better internationally than ‘Lone Ranger’ at least.

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    Renaton
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    Yep, this has cult commercial failure written all over it. This is very much this year’s Scott Pilgrim and I never thought something os overtly geeky would so well without being an established character/franchise.

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    Scottferguson
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    I suspect there is a gargantuan/loud/FX fatigue going on at the moment, with the mixed reaction to most of them since Iron Man 3 taking its toll.

    Spielberg’s prediction might indeed be coming true.

    My mistake – it was Daily Variety:

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    After spending the past two weeks trying to turn the tide for “Pacific Rim,” Warner Bros. and Legendary Pictures now are bracing for what appears to be a gruesome inevitability for the $185 million-plus monster movie: A domestic opening ranging between $25 million and $35 million.

    This weekend could be the second in a row in which an expensive non-sequel property bellyflops at the box office after “Lone Ranger” flamed out last weekend.

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    The impending doom has been pretty clear ever since “Pacific Rim” came on tracking early last month. And while there are certainly some last-minute hopeful signs for Warner and Legendary to cling to (i.e. strong reviews and unreliable tracking lately), there’s little chance that “Pacific Rim” will open well enough in the U.S. to counter its monster-sized budget and marketing costs.

    FILM REVIEW: “Pacific Rim”

    But before we delve into the negative, there are a few possible bright spots:

    • Positive reviews. As of Tuesday afternoon, the film has scored an 85% rating on RottenTomatoes, with a 98% rating among audiences who want to see the film. Exhibitor reactions to the film also have been better than expected.
    • Overseas. Warner launches “Pacific Rim” in 38 day-and-date territories, including the U.K., Mexico, Russia, South Korea, Italy and Australia.
    • Skewed tracking. “Pacific Rim” straddles the line of being a fanboy and family film, with heavy interest among boys, and tracking for younger auds is notoriously unreliable. Does that mean the film can double current projections? No.
    • Holiday frenzy. The buzz surrounding the Fourth of July weekend was still humming on Monday, when NRG — the most subscribed-to tracking service — released its most current weekend estimates. The company will revise those estimates Thursday.

    All of those factors weigh in “Pacific Rim’s” favor, particularly the first, after Paramount managed to parlay strong early reviews for “World War Z” into a surprising $66 million domestic opening.

    SEE MORE: Is ‘Pacific Rim’ Doomed to Be This Year’s ‘Battleship’?

    But to be clear, an opening like that is not in the cards for “Pacific Rim” — not with competition from “Despicable Me 2″ and “Grown Ups 2,” both of which also have strong family appeal. Observers predict that “Despicable Me 2″ will win its second frame in the high-$40 millions, while “Grown Ups 2″ is expected to gross in the low-$40 million range. Both “Grown Ups 2″ and “Pacific Rim” are rated PG-13.

    For “Pacific Rim,” which is a passion project for helmer Guillermo del Toro, the early July release date was likely modeled after “Transformers,” which opened with $70 million in 2007. That’s the kind of start Legendary expected to see when it greenlit the pricey ensemble project about an apocalyptic battle between aliens and robots created to fight them. But without a major star toplining the film, Warners — which came on board later to help finance 25% of the production cost — had to market the film based solely on the original concept. The studio only recently began highlighting the pic’s humor and lighter elements to help draw interest.

    SEE MORE: How Legendary Is Trying to Turn Around Troubling Tracking for ‘Pacific Rim’

    Tracking for the film outside the U.S. is strongest in Asia, with the area’s long history of creature features, but the pic is seeing only moderate interest in other parts of the world.

    Some celebrities, including Kanye West, have taken to social media with positive reactions to the film. Videogame design icon Hideo Kojima also expressed his admiration in a tweet saying, “This film is not simply a film to be respected, but most importantly, it let us dream the future of entertainment movies.”

    The film’s grim financial outlook notwithstanding, Kojima may have a point. If only the film’s budget could have been kept in check.     

       

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