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  • Gone_Guy
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    This poll is to discuss, debate, and vote for who you consider to be the biggest Lead Actress snub ever, that was coming into the race with Globe and SAG noms under her belt. I figured this would give us something to discuss when taking a break from evaluating this Sunday’s upcoming telecast. (There are three other polls waiting in the wings for the other acting categories, but Lead Actress seems to get Derbyites fired up the most.)

    Since the SAG Awards began their competitive categories for 1994’s films, there have been a total of 11 actresses that received Globe and SAG nominations for Lead Actress but still managed to be snubbed at Oscar. I included if they were nominated for Critics Choice Awards and/or BAFTAs, but only if they received both the Globe and SAG (e.g. For Big Eyes, Amy Adams won the Globe and was nominated at BAFTA, but since she missed a SAG nom, she isn’t included). BAFTA has rules with eligibility period that sometimes mean a performer can’t be nominated until the next year (Hilary Swank for Boys Don’t Cry and Chrarlize Theron for Monster, for example). 

    There are 11 actresses, but Gold Derby’s polls are capped off at 10. Therefore, I left off the very first actress to have a Lead Globe nom and a Lead SAG nom without an Oscar nom, Meryl Streep, for 1994’s The River Wild. The reason I chose to leave her off was because the other 10 were the most recent. However, if you feel that she is the biggest snub of the 11, just mention that in your post. What’s interesting about Streep being snubbed is that, in addition to being Oscar’s most nominated performer, she was also the first Lead Actress to get in at SAG and Globe but not Oscar. Jamie Lee Curtis may disagree, but I don’t think so. See below. 

    Aside from leaving off Streep due to space, there are three actresses left off because of special circumstances. The first because she was nominated in Lead for a different film. The other two because they were likely both victims of category-confusion, being Lead at the Globes and Supporting at SAG. That’s another thing: All of the women in the poll received Globe and SAG noms in Lead Actress.

    The three additional actresses not included are:  

    Kate Winslet, Revolutionary Road, 2008 – She was nominated for and won the Lead Actress Oscar in the same year for The Reader. At the Globes, SAGs, and BAFTAs, she was nominated in Lead for Revolutionary Road, winning at the Globes. At BAFTA, she was a Lead Actress double-nominee for both The Reader and Revolutionary Road, winning for the former. She was Supporting for The Reader at the Critics Choice Awards, Golden Globes, and SAG Awards, winning all three. Her final tally for The Reader at the five major televised awards was a clean sweep: Supporting at Critics Choice, Globe, and SAG, followed by Lead at BAFTA and Oscar. 

    Cate Blanchett, Bandits, 2001 – She was nominated for Lead Actress Comedy/Musical at the Golden Globes. At the SAGs, she was nominated for Supporting Actress. At the Globes, she lost to Nicole Kidman for Moulin Rouge. At the SAGs, she lost to Helen Mirren for Gosford Park

    Jamie Lee Curtis, True Lies, 1995 – She won Lead Actress Comedy/Musical at the Golden Globes. At the SAGs, she was nominated for Supporting Actress, and lost to Dianne Wiest for Bullets Over Broadway.

    I’ll post with my thoughts in another post. 

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    Monty
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    Jennifer Aniston did not get a nomination from BAFTA

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    Spark87
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    I voted for Pam Grier for “Jackie Brown”.

    In my honest opinon, she was even better than the winner that year.

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    Gone_Guy
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    Without hesitation, my vote goes to Tilda Swinton for We Need to Talk About Kevin.

    I mentioned this in the snubs thread when I was talking about another actress, but 2011 was just insanely competitive. The winner was Meryl Streep for The Iron Lady with the other nominees being Viola Davis for The Help, Michelle Williams for My Week with Marilyn, Glenn Close for Albert Nobbs, and Rooney Mara for The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo.

    I would have bumped out Mara and placed in Swinton. The only major precursor-nom Mara received was the Globe. She also received a few city-critcs noms and a win for Breakthrough Performer at NBR. But considering the precursors Swinton was coming in with (noms at CCA, Globe, SAG, BAFTA, plus a win at NBR), coupled with The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo being shut out in Picture, Director, and Adapted Screenplay, it’s head-scratching and unfortunate. Even though Mara’s film may not have been shown love in the major categories, it did receive four tech nominations in Cinematography, Sound Editing, Sound Mixing, and a win in Film Editing (marking a consecutive win for co-editors, Angus Wall and Kirk Baxter, who had won the year before for The Social Network). Swinton’s film was completely shut out. 

    But as we are currently seeing just three years later, a Lead Actress nominee can get in without broad support for her film. Julianne Moore has won all of the televised precursors for a film that has received zero nominations outside of its leading lady. Rosamund Pike is up for a film that had more support at other awards, a record box office for her director, and huge praise from the critics, yet it was nearly shut out at the Oscars. Marion Cotillard managed to get in after snubs at Globe, SAG, and BAFTA; she did, however, have a nom at Critics Choice and wins at NYFCC and NSFC, plus several other city-critics awards. Reese Witherspoon is up for her comeback role, but it couldn’t land Oscar nominations anywhere else, except Supporting Actress which was considered to be the biggest acting nomination shock of the day (At least Cotillard had some wins early on for her film; Laura Dern didn’t even have the noms for Wild). And Felicity Jones is the one with the most support, five noms overall for The Theory of Everything in four major categories, plus a fifth in a tech category (Score), where it could win. Yet, looking at many posts here at Gold Derby, her nom/performance seems to be the one that posters are least passionate about. 

    I mention this years’ nominees because pretty much everyone of them dispel why I thought Swinton was snubbed. “It didn’t have huge box office.” (Cotillard, Jones, Moore, Witherspoon) “It wasn’t beloved by all of the critics.” (Jones, Moore) “Not enough people saw it.” (Cotillard, Jones, Moore, Witherspoon) “It didn’t have support anywhere else at Oscar.” (Cotillard, Moore, Pike) “She had recently won, so maybe Oscar was hesitant to bring her back so soon.” (Cotillard, Witherspoon) “Maybe voters liked just her performance but not the film as a whole.” (Cotillard, Moore, Pike, Witherspoon) “Maybe it was too controversial.” (Pike) Maybe it was too hard for voters to watch.” (Jones, Moore, Witherspoon) “She didn’t win many critics awards.” (Jones, Moore, Pike, Witherspoon) “She didn’t win any of the televised precursors.” (Cotillard, Jones, Pike, Witherspoon) Blah blah blah.

    Some of those possibilities may be a stretch, but they have all crossed my mind. Granted, things change from year to year to year. 

    She was apart of a film that was not perfect. But it was pretty great. I would have given the film three noms and two wins. The wins would be in Lead Actress for Swinton (bumping out Mara for the nom) and in Adapted Screenplay for co-writer Rory Kinnear Stewart and director/co-writer Lynne Ramsay (it would easily bump out TInker Tailor Soldier Spy and The Ides of March for the nom). Although I wouldn’t have given him the win over Christopher Plummer, I would have nominated Ezra Miller for Best Supporting Actor (bumping out Jonah Hill, and even Nick Nolte). I am not a fanboy for this film like I am the performance, but it warranted nominations in those three categories.

    Thankfully, Swinton already had an Oscar on her mantle for 2007’s Michael Clayton four years prior. But it is eight years later, and she is simply not in good graces with Oscar anymore. She has given worthy performances in 2008’s Julia, 2009’s I Am Love, 2011’s We Need to Talk About Kevin, and two performances from last year, Only Lovers Left Alive and Snowpiercer.

    There are many performers who are what I call “One-Hit Oscar Wonders” — That is, they only have one win to their name and it’s the one time they were nominated for an [Acting] Oscar. I comprised a list of each performer, and in Supporting Actress, there are 37 of these women. Swinton was the 35th, followed by Octavia Spencer and Lupita Nyong’o. Patricia Arquette will make 38 should she never get another nom after her inevitable win for Boyhood this weekend. Over in Lead Actress, there are only eight women (Mary Pickford, Ginger Rogers, Judy Holliday, Shirley Booth, Louise Fletcher, Marlee Matlin, Gwyneth Paltrow, and Halle Berry). Surely, Swinton won’t remain on the looong list of actresses who won a Supporting Oscar then never was invited back to the ceremony as a nominee again. But with a giant snub like this, it makes me wonder. 

    I don’t want to resort to feeling the Academy has anything against her. After all, Marion Cotillard was snubbed for a string of performances post-win and managed to finally get back in this year. Charlize Theron managed to get back in two years later, while Sandra Bullock got back in four years later. And it took poor Helen Hunt a whopping 15 years to get a second nomination. There’s hope for Tilda yet!   

    And speaking of Cotillard, here’s how I would rank the 11 performances, from biggest snub to least biggest:

    1. Tilda Swinton, We Need to Talk About Kevin 
    2. Angelina Jolie, A Mighty Heart
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    3. Emma Thompson, Saving Mr. Banks
    4. Pam Grier, Jackie Brown
    5. Ziyi Zhang, Memoirs of a Geisha
    6. Marion Cotillard, Rust and Bone

    7. Evan Rachel Wood, Thirteen
    8. Meryl Streep, The River Wild
    9. Helen Mirren, Hitchock

    n/a. Jennifer Aniston, Cake
    n/a. Jane Horrocks, Little Voice 

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    1. Tilda Swinton
    2. Emma Thompson
    3. Evan Rachel Wood

    4. Marion Cotillard
    5. Pam Grier

    6. Helen Mirren

    N/S The rest

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    Emma Thompson far and away the biggest snub. Especially considering that she missed out in favour of another wheel-it-out-again-just-for-an-Oscar-nod Meryl in August: Osage County. I like Meryl, I like the film, but she should not have been nominated. I personally maybe wouldn’t have even had Streep in my top ten last year, let alone five. 

    As for some of the rest:
    2nd – Cotillard – great performance, should have got in that year rather than this. 
    3rd – Swinton – incredibly subtle performance, not over the top enough for the Academy but should have got in.
    4th – Aniston – should be in instead of Cotillard, but Cotillard was due for a second nod before Aniston gets her first.
    5th – Mirren – solid performance but rightfully missed out. 

    I have not seen the rest of the performances. I started getting into the Oscar race in 2008/09.  

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    Emma Thompson far and away the biggest snub. Especially considering that she missed out in favour of another wheel-it-out-again-just-for-an-Oscar-nod Meryl in August: Osage County. I like Meryl, I like the film, but she should not have been nominated. I personally maybe wouldn’t have even had Streep in my top ten last year, let alone five. 

    As for some of the rest:
    2nd – Cotillard – great performance, should have got in that year rather than this. 
    3rd – Swinton – incredibly subtle performance, not over the top enough for the Academy but should have got in.
    4th – Aniston – should be in instead of Cotillard, but Cotillard was due for a second nod before Aniston gets her first.
    5th – Mirren – solid performance but rightfully missed out. 

    I have not seen the rest of the performances. I started getting into the Oscar race in 2008/09.  

    Umm..what? Cotillard is easily number one in my ranking. It’s not like she’s nominated because she is due for her second nomination. It’s because they realized that her performance so much different (and better) than all those silly theatrical, scream-queen ‘baity’ performances by mediocre women each year.

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    Malick
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    I’ll go with TIlda Swinton. I know the majority of GD users LOVED Rooney Mara in TGWTDT, but I sure didn’t.

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    Emma Thompson. I thought she gave (jointly with Blanchett) the best performance of the year and still can’t believe she was snubbed. I hope she gets another opportunity to be nominated.

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    Tilda Swinton and Emma Thompson. I would have put Swinton if for Williams and Thompson in over Adams 

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    Without hesitation, my vote goes to Tilda Swinton for We Need to Talk About Kevin.

    I mentioned this in the snubs thread when I was talking about another actress, but 2011 was just insanely competitive. The winner was Meryl Streep for The Iron Lady with the other nominees being Viola Davis for The Help, Michelle Williams for My Week with Marilyn, Glenn Close for Albert Nobbs, and Rooney Mara for The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo.

    I would have bumped out Mara and placed in Swinton. 

    A bit off-topic but that year was insane! My personal line-up would be: Elizabeth Olsen, Rooney Mara, Viola Davis, Kirsten Dunst and Tilda Swinton. I would never bump Mara in a million years. It’s such a controlled, dark performance and one that is rarely celebrated and recognized by the Academy so I was ecstatic that they nominated Mara for one of the best performances of the year. Kirsten Dunst was the best actress of that year imo and Viola Davis and Tilda Swinton were just magnific but not worthy of a win. Elizabeth Olsen’s performance is so complicated for an actor to play and for an audience to absorb that it’s a shame she ended up overlooked in favor of gimmicks and extra-make-up performances.

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    [quote=”GoneGuy”]Without hesitation, my vote goes to Tilda Swinton for We Need to Talk About Kevin.

    I mentioned this in the snubs thread when I was talking about another actress, but 2011 was just insanely competitive. The winner was Meryl Streep for The Iron Lady with the other nominees being Viola Davis for The Help, Michelle Williams for My Week with Marilyn, Glenn Close for Albert Nobbs, and Rooney Mara for The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo.

    I would have bumped out Mara and placed in Swinton. 

    A bit off-topic but that year was insane! My personal line-up would be: Elizabeth Olsen, Rooney Mara, Viola Davis, Kirsten Dunst and Tilda Swinton. I would never bump Mara in a million years. It’s such a controlled, dark performance and one that is rarely celebrated and recognized by the Academy so I was ecstatic that they nominated Mara for one of the best performances of the year. Kirsten Dunst was the best actress of that year imo and Viola Davis and Tilda Swinton were just magnific but not worthy of a win. Elizabeth Olsen’s performance is so complicated for an actor to play and for an audience to absorb that it’s a shame she ended up overlooked in favor of gimmicks and extra-make-up performances.[/quote]

    You make a fantastic point. I tend to flip-flop between Rooney an Tilda for my favorite, but Kirsten was extremely deserving, at least for the nomination (at least she has Cannes, which is a spectacular feat).

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    I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I would have been fine for Swinton to get in, along with Mara, and Glenn Close get the boot. I prefer Close over Mara, but that year was just so incredibly competitive. I agree that Martha Marcy May Marlene contained a great “debut” performance by Elizabeth Olsen. It’s too bad it couldn’t gain traction anywhere. And I’ll never support Melancholia getting a nom anywhere. Haha I hated that movie so much. 

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    Ecstatic to see this one right and for that margin!

    Tilda Institution Swinton. 

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    I’ll pick Swinton in any polls.

    and where is Kate in RR? god, that is one greatly heartbreaking performance. 

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