February 2, 2014 at 7:39 am #137605
I was watching RoTK the other day and got me thinking, his performance was good, maybe the credits are from Jackson’s brilliant direction but he at least stole the scene there.
Did he deserve a spot?
What you guys think?February 2, 2014 at 9:25 am #137607
I always thought he was the standout there. I too wonder his position that year in the awards?February 2, 2014 at 11:40 am #137608
He might have been in contention for a nomination, but there was no way Tim Robbins was losing that year.February 2, 2014 at 11:57 am #137609
“Return of the King” is one of my favorite films of all time, but I don’t think Astin deserved a nomination for playing Samwise Gamyi. His performance was just okay, normal, he just did his job, there was nothing truly outstanding in it to merit awards recognition.February 2, 2014 at 1:23 pm #137610
Well, I respectfully disagree. I think he was the perfect fit for the role and did wonders with it in Return of the King, I cannot imagine another actor playing him to be as good as he was.
He might have been in contention for a nomination, but there was no way Tim Robbins was losing that year.
Actually, I meant if he had a shot at a nomination, not a win. Eventhough I think Robbins didn’t give a winning performance, imo, Del Toro did.February 2, 2014 at 2:01 pm #137611
Part of me wanted him to be nominated, but I just can’t let go of that 11/11 sweep.
I don’t think he would have won.February 2, 2014 at 2:23 pm #137612
I actually would have liked to have seen both he and Billy Boyd nominated.
Seems, though, that the Academy largely decided these films were only technical achievements.February 2, 2014 at 2:53 pm #137613
I think Sean Astin was R.O.Y.A.L.L.Y. robbed of a nomination for Return of the King. He would have even been my pick to win.February 2, 2014 at 3:33 pm #137614
I remember he was very much in the conversation. Did he come close? Maybe. You could say he was 6th or 7th on the list. There was also Peter Sarsgaard that year for Shattered Glass who also got robbed.
But the five men nominated gave some pretty great performances including Djimon Honsou who I think was the fifth man there as he wasn’t considered by many to be that much of a lock. The other four weren’t going to miss.February 2, 2014 at 3:53 pm #137615
I don’t think Astin stood a chance. Yes, he was a standout in the film, but Return of the King was seen by the industry as an ensemble effort. And with so many names, it was difficult to single someone out. My guess, is that Ian McKellen probably got the most votes, with Viggo probably next, based on their name recognition and what they brought in the previous two installments.February 2, 2014 at 4:31 pm #137616
Not really. Back then, it was all about Astin. Mortensen and McKellen weren’t getting as much talk, if any. We’ll never know about votes, of course, but if you want to know who dominated the conversation from somebody who was around back then, it was Astin. Not the other two.February 2, 2014 at 4:35 pm #137617
You’re right, but I do not understand how would people nominate Viggo, McKellen maybe but really, they had no emotional impact on the movie whatsoever while Astin did have some baity scenes in which he was very good, unfortunately, Elijah almost ruined those.February 2, 2014 at 4:41 pm #137618
Yeah, Astin was definitely the most buzzed about performance in the movie. He was probably 7th to get in, I bet. Other contenders were Peter Sarsgaard and Albert Finney (Big Fish).February 2, 2014 at 4:43 pm #137619
I just think in ensemble efforts, the industry tends to award the most distinguished actors based on other reasons, career, status, than who necessarily gave the best performance. I was around for 2003, and Astin didn’t hit anywhere. It’s probably because of Viggo and Ian getting some votes that he missed a nomination (remember the industry wasn’t just considering Return of the King but the entire trilogy, all three films as a single film). Looking back, Astin started to get some talk after Two Towers and his climactic speech…so it definitely made sense he would be in the conversation for the final installment.February 2, 2014 at 7:19 pm #137620
Astin definitely deserved a spot for ROTK. He was the MVP of the film, IMO. But as many people mentioned, the series really was an ensemble effort (the SAG win was very deserving), so it was hard to single someone out. McKellen rightfully got nominated for FOTR, but apart from that film, the actors didn’t seem to know who to single out for the other two films. Serkis deserved to win for TTT, and to be nominated for ROTK, but the Academy wasn’t ready for motion capture yet (and still isn’t). Mortensen deserved a nom for any of the films, but his performance was likely too subtle for attention, despite being basically the co-lead (if there was any) of the series along with Wood. McKellen got a BAFTA nom for ROTK (again deserved, his scenes with Boyd in particular were superb), but that was as far as ROTK got for individual acting nominations. If anyone were to get in that year, I think it would’ve been either McKellen again or Astin.