January 13, 2015 at 11:45 am #173239
I know “Selma”‘s been late with quite a few screeners, but I have a theory why it’s started lacking in nominations as the Oscar nominations draw near from some of the other awards and Guilds. I think this is backlash from last year. Last year, there was a lot of people who, didn’t think “12 Years a Slave” should’ve won, for one reason or another, but that it won, and many of the Best Picture votes it got, were pressured votes, by people who didn’t want to say that they voted against it. Now, here’s “Selma” another film of similar supposed importance that most projected would be successful with many awards, and yet it’s continuously got under it’s expectations or been ignored completely. Now, I haven’t seen the movie; I haven’t seen it, it looks really good, but I haven’t heard this brought up, is this a possible reason it’s underperforming?January 13, 2015 at 11:58 am #173241
I’ve thought that too. (here’s my review of Selma: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZOlDwtzjkM&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL). It sucks because Selma is BY FAR a better film than 12 Years A Slave, but yeah, I can see voters shying away from it because of 12 Years last year.January 13, 2015 at 12:10 pm #173242
It’s not the screeners. Stone, Tapley and the rest of the critics insist on jumping on this notion that Selma is underperforming due to to lack of screeners or late dispatch of screeners. Screeners for Selma didn’t just go out a week ago. Might not have been that much time, but Guild members could still have had time to watch a DVD for a presumed Best Picture frontrunner.
DGA voting closed yesterday. So something is up.
Selma is going to underperform MASSIVELY on Thursday. It will be a wakeup call for many.January 13, 2015 at 1:51 pm #173243
Sad that a great film is being massively overlooked due to a late release and screener distribution issues. Had Selma played the same strategy as Boyhood or Grand Budapest and released the film a lot earlier, get it seen by critics and the masses, at least momentum would have been on its side. Late release strategies usually work for polarizing and not-so-great films like Unbroken or American Sniper that can bank on buzz and big names (Jolie and Eastwood respectively) to clinch nominations and avoid as much of the negative comments from critics and audiences. Selma would not have suffered from negativity coz it is a very solid film and it totally missed out on its prime release period during the Ferguson trials.January 13, 2015 at 2:34 pm #173244
Selma is 2/3 superb and 1/3 mediocre. But more importantly: it’s directed by a FEMALE and the DGA (and the Director’s branch of the academy) are “old boys clubs” of the worst kind. The film would have been better had the supporting cast (with one exception, they are all terrific – imo Carmen Ejogo is miscast) had been developed a bit more – just a few more scenes for each of them, even if it meant the film would be a bit longer would have helped. On the other hand, the 2/3 that IS superb ought to lift it up to nominations for Best Motion PIcture and Best Director.January 13, 2015 at 2:43 pm #173245
Selma is 2/3 superb and 1/3 mediocre. But more importantly: it’s directed by a FEMALE and the DGA (and the Director’s branch of the academy) are “old boys clubs” of the worst kind. The film would have been better had the supporting cast (with one exception, they are all terrific – imo Carmen Ejogo is miscast) had been developed a bit more – just a few more scenes for each of them, even if it meant the film would be a bit longer would have helped. On the other hand, the 2/3 that IS superb ought to lift it up to nominations for Best Motion PIcture and Best Director.
I agree about the supporting performances. Wendell Pierce in particular was a huge standout for me, but he was also totally over shined by the central performance that dominated the film. Even if Selma underperforms, I could still see Oyelowo getting in. He is just incredible.
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Whats the difference anyway..
Selma is only going to win best SONG either way
whether it got 4 nominations or 8 nominations.
I think it will make the BEST PICTURE list
without a matching director.BEST ACTOR of course
possibly CARMEN EJOGO as sup. actress,
SCREENPLAY, possibly editing, sound mixing and song
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