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  • Etchie
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    Critics-Reviewers prefer Subtle & Restrained Acting BUT The Academy usually awards Showy & Flashy Performances. 

    This debate looms large anew with Meryl Streep for Into the Woods VS. Patricia Arquette for Boyhood forthcoming Best Supporting Actress match-up. 

    What other Acting Match-Ups, Past & Present in ALL Acting Categories, that are worthwhile to highlight and provide your own perspectives.

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    TomHardys
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    Patricia Arquette’s performance had a lot of subtle/restrained moments, a few flashy moments and a couple of dull moments. Having seen it FIVE times, I still don’t understand why are you guys over-hyping her performance like she is god’s acting gift to the world that will stop war and hunger. She was very good but calm down.

    And before you putas try it, I’m not a defender of plate-smashing, scenary-chewing performances. Last year Meryl Streep didn’t deserve to be nominated in favor of such a beautiful delicate RESTRAINED performance like Emma Thompson’s in Saving Mr.Banks, in my opinion (and let’s not even mention Adele Exarchopoulos). And two of my all-time favorite female performances are the epitome of subtlety that is even more effective than the usual yelling and ugly-crying: Mary Tyler Moore for Ordinary People (seriously she deserved to win that goddamn Oscar) and Louise Fletcher for One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest. 

    I just think it all comes down to the performance/performer and how effective he/she is in the role. Period. 

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    Tyler The Awesome Guy
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    It really depends on the role.

    I guess sometimes if a performance is showy/flashy, people could very well accuse so-and-so of over-acting and being hammy. But underacting, while also effective, will likely not get you noticed by a lot of people.

    If someone needs to be showy by playing a showy character then I think it would work, but if they need to be more subtle by underplaying, then it would also work. Mix-and-match and combining those however will usually never work in a dramatic medium.

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    Patricia Arquette’s performance had a lot of subtle/restrained moments, a few flashy moments and a couple of dull moments. Having seen it FIVE times, I still don’t understand why are you guys over-hyping her performance like she is god’s acting gift to the world that will stop war and hunger. She was very good but calm down.

    And before you putas try it, I’m not a defender of plate-smashing, scenary-chewing performances. Last year Meryl Streep didn’t deserve to be nominated in favor of such a beautiful delicate RESTRAINED performance like Emma Thompson’s in Saving Mr.Banks, in my opinion (and let’s not even mention Adele Exarchopoulos). And two of my all-time favorite female performances are the epitome of subtlety that is even more effective than the usual yelling and ugly-crying: Mary Tyler Moore for Ordinary People (seriously she deserved to win that goddamn Oscar) and Louise Fletcher for One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest. 

    I just think it all comes down to the performance/performer and how effective he/she is in the role. Period. 

    Thanks!

    People are acting like if Patricia wouldn’t have flashy scenes in “Boyhood”. Like her performance would be simple and silent. It’s not. As far as I know, according to the consensus, her best scenes are where she either freaks out because of the abusive husbands or on his son leaving home.

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    Critics-Reviewers prefer Subtle & Restrained Acting

    they do? I haven’t noticed. how come Lawrence got better reviews for AH then Adams then? how come Cooper got good notices for that movie at all?

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    Critics-Reviewers prefer Subtle & Restrained Acting BUT The Academy usually awards Showy & Flashy Performances. 

    This debate looms large anew with Meryl Streep for Into the Woods VS. Patricia Arquette for Boyhood forthcoming Best Supporting Actress match-up. 

    What other Acting Match-Ups, Past & Present in ALL Acting Categories, that are worthwhile to highlight and provide your own perspectives.

    Also, have you seen “Into the Woods” or what? Or this whole example is based on the “Into the Woods” trailer VS. Patrcia Arquette’s actual performance?

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    TomHardys
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    [quote=”etchie88″]Critics-Reviewers prefer Subtle & Restrained Acting

    they do? I haven’t noticed. how come Lawrence got better reviews for AH then Adams then? how come Cooper got good notices for that movie at all?[/quote]

    Adams was such a queen. I ranked her performance 3rd after Blanchett’s and Exarchopoulos’s as last year’s best. She was better than all of her co-stars combined. 

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    Some good examples of recent past when Showy-Flashy WON:

    Jennifer Lawrence (Silver Linings Playbook) VS. Emmanuelle Riva (Amour)

    Marion Cotillard (La Vie en Rose) VS. Julie Christie (Away from Her)

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    Good example when Subtle-Restrained WON:

    Meryl Streep (Sophie’s Choice) VS. Jessica Lange (Frances)

     

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    TomHardys
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    Some good examples of recent past where Showy-Flashy WON:

    Jennifer Lawrence (Silver Linings Playbook) VS. Emmanuelle Riva (Amour)

    Marion Cotillard (La Vie en Rose) VS. Julie Christie (Away from Her)

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    Good example where Subtle-Restrained WON:

    Meryl Streep (Sophie’s Choice) VS. Jessica Lange (Frances)

     

     

    You still have time to edit this. 

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    Etchie
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    [quote=”etchie88″]

    Some good examples of recent past where-when Showy-Flashy WON:

    Jennifer Lawrence (Silver Linings Playbook) VS. Emmanuelle Riva (Amour)

    Marion Cotillard (La Vie en Rose) VS. Julie Christie (Away from Her)

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    Good example where-when Subtle-Restrained WON:

    Meryl Streep (Sophie’s Choice) VS. Jessica Lange (Frances)

     

     

    You still have time to edit this. [/quote]

    OK, edited it from Where To When

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    Adams was such a queen. I ranked her performance 3rd after Blanchett’s and Exarchopoulos’s as last year’s best. She was better than all of her co-stars combined.

    Adams’ performance was atonal to the movie she was in.

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    TomHardys
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    You criticize 1 Meryl Streep’s performance in 10000 and the whole flock of Streepers, Langers, Redgravers, Burstyners, Directioners, whatever comes down to one star the shit out of you. Typical Meryl Streep stan thread bait. It’s actually kind of funny that there are SO MANY people out there with an obsession for old fabulous actresses… I could swear that I initially thought you were all the same person. 

    Anyways, Meryl Streep’s legendary performance in Sophie’s Choice may be a lot of things (all positive for sure!) but subtle it ain’t. 

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    Etchie
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    Anyways, Meryl Streep’s legendary performance in Sophie’s Choice may be a lot of things (all positive for sure!) but subtle it ain’t. 

    My POV, the single best acted scene ever ==> The Silent Scream in Sophie’s Choice ==> Subtle & Restrained …

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    JL Roberts Jr.
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    I knew before I opened this thread that it was really another “all about Streep in sheeps clothing” thread.

    Should have kept it moving. 

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    manakamana
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    It’s tougher to pull of the showy/flashy performance, for me, because the actor is working with such a bigger emotional canvass that they have to detail with a lot of emotional notes without making it seem uneven. I think Cate Blanchett did that brilliantly last year. But I also think people tend to get carried away with “subtlety” they see in their faves’ work when they were really just not doing much. 

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