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    As most, I do not think mad max will win bp, so when is the last time you saw a film other than the bp winner, sweep the technicals? So, I do think mad max is going to upset cinderella for costume design plus win film editing (technical?), production design, best hair and makeup, best visual effects (did the firsr lotr get nominated here years ago and then lose but the final lotr won several Oscars? This is the first of three new sw films, doesn’t the academy not vote for a film in that case?), then we have sound editing and mixing. I do think max will take one of them, but which one? Will the revenant take editing then max gets mixing?

    It’s my final decision. I picked the rev for bp, inarritu for bd and the rev for cinematography, those 3 were undecided til the end, besides these two.  

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    Andrew Carden
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    I have “The Revenant” in Sound Mixing and “Mad Max” in Sound Editing. In fact, I basically have the two films splitting the techs rather evenly. http://www.theawardsconnection.com/home/2016/2/1/andrews-2015-oscar-predix

    Last Visual Effects winner to also take Best Picture? “Lord of the Rings: Return of the King.” In fact, only four films have ever won both categories – that, “Gladiator,” “Titanic” and “Forrest Gump.”

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    Alex Scatchell
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    What in the hell? Forrest gump won visual effects? I’ve seen that movie so many times, I am trying to think what parts would have gotten it votes. The vietnam scene? 

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    Is your point that Mad Max: Fury Road *won’t* “sweep” the techs because it isn’t winning BP?

    I feel like “sweep” officially means “wins everything” (within a certain scope), but in terms of Oscar, I take it much more loosely. I generally believe that non-BP winners “sweep the techs” every year.

    2015: The Grand Budapest Hotel – Makeup & Hairstyling, Costume, Production, Score
    2014: Gravity – Visual, Editing, Cinematography, both Sound, Score
    2013: Life of Pi – Visual, Cinematography, Score
    2012: Hugo – Visual, Cinematography, Production/Art, both Sound
    2011: Inception – Visual, Cinematography, both Sound
    2010: Avatar – Visual, Cinematography, Production/Art

    All of these films had control over many of the tech fields where the wasn’t a more clear-cut winner. Mad Max: Fury Road is clearly that film this year, but The Revenant’s BP push is going to lessen its “sweep” to 3 or 4 total.
    – I expect it to take one of the sound (editing, not mixing), visual effects and production design. The Revenant could easily take away the other sound and makeup from it, and I suspect costume is up for grabs, too.

    The more interesting thing to me is that this is the second year in a row (since the BP expansion) that Visual Effects and Cinematography haven’t gone to the same film after 5 straight years of that precedent. I think this is because of the influx of effects-driven prestige films so there are generally more films vying for those spots than there was from 2010 – 2014. 

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    What in the hell? Forrest gump won visual effects? I’ve seen that movie so many times, I am trying to think what parts would have gotten it votes. The vietnam scene? 

    I imagine it’s for the inserting of Hanks into famous old footage, though I’ve always wondered if that’s really more a Film Editing accomplishment or Visual Effects one. Either way, “The Mask” should’ve won that category in ’94.

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    Is your point that Mad Max: Fury Road *won’t* “sweep” the techs because it isn’t winning BP?

    I feel like “sweep” officially means “wins everything” (within a certain scope), but in terms of Oscar, I take it much more loosely. I generally believe that non-BP winners “sweep the techs” every year.

    2015: The Grand Budapest Hotel – Makeup & Hairstyling, Costume, Production, Score
    2014: Gravity – Visual, Editing, Cinematography, both Sound, Score
    2013: Life of Pi – Visual, Cinematography, Score
    2012: Hugo – Visual, Cinematography, Production/Art, both Sound
    2011: Inception – Visual, Cinematography, both Sound
    2010: Avatar – Visual, Cinematography, Production/Art

    All of these films had control over many of the tech fields where the wasn’t a more clear-cut winner. Mad Max: Fury Road is clearly that film this year, but The Revenant’s BP push is going to lessen its “sweep” to 3 or 4 total.
    – I expect it to take one of the sound (editing, not mixing), visual effects and production design. The Revenant could easily take away the other sound and makeup from it, and I suspect costume is up for grabs, too.

    The more interesting thing to me is that this is the second year in a row (since the BP expansion) that Visual Effects and Cinematography haven’t gone to the same film after 5 straight years of that precedent. I think this is because of the influx of effects-driven prestige films so there are generally more films vying for those spots than there was from 2010 – 2014. 

    That was my point.   Basically, I’m tempted to pick someone else for a technical category since I definitely don’t see mm winning bp.  It will be interesting to see the sound awards.  I also read big action films like mm tend to take sound editing over mixing. 

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    Riley
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    Please try not to create duplicate threads:

    http://www.goldderby.com/forum/topics/view/13788

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    Alex Scatchell
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    I am looking now and see sw the phantom menace was nominated but lost to the matrix in 2000 for best visual effects.  The third part of that sw trilogy wasn’t nominated in 2006, so who knows? I still think the academy will overlook tfa this year and wait until the third film. 

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    Alex Scatchell
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    Please try not to create duplicate threads:

    http://www.goldderby.com/forum/topics/view/13788

    Sorry. Good posts in there.  

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    Non BP winners sweep the TECH categories all the time, and most times win more Oscars than the actual Best Picture winner. Examples: Hugo, The GrandBudapest Hotel, Gravity, Life of Pi, Inception, and others. These arguments that Mad Max is going to underperform at the Oscars just because it ain’t winning BP are unfounded. 

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    Revenant is winning sound mixing because it has won at BAFTA and BAFTA sound = oscar sound mixing. it matched in last 8 years. Mad Max editing

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    Only once in the last 40 years has a film won Sound Mixing and *lost* Sound Editing (SLUMDOG).  Whenever there’s a split, it’s because the Mixing winner was not nominated for Editing (DREAMGIRLS, LES MIZ, WHIPLASH, BIRD, MOHICANS, etc.).

    There will be no split this year.  Whichever film takes one will also take the other.

     

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    Madson Melo
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    If that’s the case, Mad Max will take both.

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    If that’s the case, Mad Max will take both.

    Or The Revenant.

    In the last split (were both were nominated) Slumdog won mixing and Batman editing.

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    Revenant for SM and Mad Max for SE. But Mad Max should take both. 

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