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    I know that there are some “Spotlight” threads, but I wanted to make a poll of a theory of mine.

    So I’ve seen the film just now and it’s incredibly lifeless and average with no real emotional impact. It’s not bad piece by any means, but hardly remarkable either, and it doesn’t scream Best Picture of the Year for me. The screenplay is a bit weak (I seriously don’t understand what’s so excellent about the screenplay) and the characters are underwritten for my personal taste. Most of the performances are forgettable as well with an exception of Rachel McAdams and Liev Schreiber. Michael Keaton is personally a huge disappointment and Mark Ruffalo is just painfully annoying most of the time.

    I don’t understand the hype. It’s not a one in a million type of masterpiece. It’s a decent, with a fine, but once again, hardly  outstanding ensemble effort.

    So what’s up with this? Maybe I’m alone with my opinion…maybe you all prove me wrong by saying it’s one of the best this year…but I feel, that the love has a bit more to do with the topic than the actual film. It’s a very shocking and nasty issue and with the support, it can gain attention for sure. But does it make it acceptable to have a way-too-average BP front-runner? Not in my book.

    I think out of the six Oscar nominations it has recieved, I would totally give this one Oscar nomination, for Rachel McAdams and that’s it. And maybe not even McAdams will make my personal cut.

    I’m just really, really disappointed, because I do wanted to love this.

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    AMG
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    Trust me Vince, you’re not alone – that’s pretty much how I feel as well!

    It was a solid film, but you’re right, nothing screams Best Picture winner. It is a heavily serious issue, and they handle it quite well. Maybe that’s why it is at the top of the pack. The Big Short, The Revenant, Mad Max and The Martian don’t deal with such a serious and timely topic as Spotlight does. Maybe that’s why it’s ahead of the pack?

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    Rooney Moore
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    Keaton is a huge disappoitment but McAdams is totally deserving of an Oscar nod? .Please. She did what she could do with the material she’s been given and said her lines fluently… I guess? But there wasn’t any character there. Your bias are talking. I wouldn’t nominate anyone from the main cast(secondary actors that were playing the victims more powerful) and I agree about Ruffalo that he’s just lost himself too much in his character that it came off so artificial.

    Spotlight is the Best Movie of the year the way Argo and The King’s Speech were the best movies of their year. For once, I want Academy to prefer substance over style&politics and award a simple story that is well told. Not hyperbolic, not flashy. But I’ve just realized that is impossible before finishing my own sentence. Maybe I should go and change my predictions. I’m not a championer of the movie by any means(in fact I think; when future generations look back in Oscar history and see this film being selected as the best of the year; they will roll their eyes), but since it is the only deseving candidate that has a shot at winning Best Picture right now(among only 3), I’m rooting for it by default.

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    Anonymous
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    Keaton did nothing awards-worthy in this. Nothing. He was walking and sitting around, talking. McAdams was really good.

    You are entitled to share your opinion, though. I think “Argo” was so much better, but I didn’t like “The King’s Speech”. Such a mediocore piece.

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    Jason Travis
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    Spotlight was okay but nothing outstanding. The past best picture winners have all had something unique about them that made them more special – the recent ones

    (Birdman
    12 Years a Slave
    Argo
    The Artist
    The King’s Speech
    The Hurt Locker
    Slumdog Millionaire)

    All had passionate energies that elevated them to the top. I don’t see Spotlight having that edge. That’s why if voters want to go with a movie that covers important subject matter that’s an ensemble cast they should go with Big Short. That movie had a better script, fresher camera angles and a cast that seemed awake. I felt more sizzle with it and voters will do I think.

    Mad Max is WAY too divided. There are many lovers but a lot of haters who think it’s a loud car chase movie with no soul. I don’t see it prevailing. The Revevant is much more traditional in its epic scope and would be a worthy winner, but because it’s director won last year that could mean it won’t be the champion. But it’s closer than Mad Max.

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    wehan6
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    Yes loved it!

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    Rooney Moore
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    Yes, I guess it’s all about perception. To me it was Rachel ”pretty face” McAdams that was mostly talking and sitting around etc. And what was up with Ruffalo and his gestures really? He easily lose control of himself and don’t hesitate to go over the top when he’s being directed poorly. (see also The Normal Heart) But his hamminess has attracted more attention here than that poorly made TV Movie, since everyone around him was so understated and aware of the nature of the movie they were in. He is also on his way to become the male Amy Adams in terms of getting coattail supporting nominations for everything he does.

    Keaton was easily the best of them as he was able to balance the subtlety and strength the script required from his character. I didn’t have a problem with McAdams’ acting, and enjoyed her silent performance but the material just wasn’t there for her. Sometimes it isn’t. She just got nominated for being passable enough in a Best Picture frontrunner.

    Keaton>Tucci>Arcy James>McAdams>Ruffalo>Slattery>Schreiber

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    1. McAdams
    2. Schreiber
    3. Crudup
    4. D’Arcy James
    5. Keaton
    6. Slattery
    7. Ruffalo
    8. Tucci

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    Lifeless? I think this thread proves the huge divide between people who love crap like The Revenant and Mad Max: Fury Road – pretentious movies that have a hidden right-wing ideology that is hard to “see” and appeals to people who think movies need to be hyperviolent to hold their attention, and films that are about subjects that are left-leaning and less frenetic but still superb. Every acting performance in Spotlight is superb (except for Keaton, who is average). The film is so well edited, written, directed – fortunately a majority of academy members might just agree with me! I sure hope so. another pretentious drivel movie winning BP two years in a row (by the same friggin’ overrated filmmaker!) is just too idiotic even for the academy!

    I would cast my vote for Best Supporting Actor for Mark Ruffalo this year. Stallone will win and he’s great, but I rate Ruffalo and Bale higher than him performance-wise. I absolutely loved McAdams performance! She is the best of the 3 real Supporting Actress nominees; but I rate category fraud Alicia Vikander and Rooney Mara higher but of course they have way more screen time.

    My grades for each film:
    The Big Short: A
    Bridge Of Spies: B+
    Brooklyn: B+
    Mad Max: Fury Road: F
    The Martian: A
    The Revenant: D
    Room: A
    Spotlight: A

    (Again, there is a split in perceptions about movies that I think is based on age, gender, class, personal issues around power, etc.)

    This is what I think the final vote will be from academy members:
    Spotlight: 20%
    The Revenant: 18%
    The Big Short: 16%
    Mad Max: Fury Road: 14%
    Room: 10%
    The Martian: 8%
    Brooklyn: 8%
    Bridge Of Spies: 6%

    This is my prediction of what the final vote tallies for Best Picture will be. I am predicting Spotlight. Do I think it’s the best film? I think it’s a 3-way tie with The Big Short and Room, honestly. Carol, Trumbo, The Danish Girl, Creed would have all gotten in for me instead of TR, MM: FR, Bridge Of Spies and Brooklyn.

    We know which way the wind blows here on Gold Derby but I don’t think GD reflects the academy very well at all. Didn’t Keaton win big here last year, but Redmayne won the Oscar? Rosamund Pike and Gone Girl were beloved here but the academy gave it only one nomination and no wins. GDer’s sure love violence and the more hyper and depraved the better! I prefer quieter films that are more compassionate and move me more deeply, such as Spotlight!

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    Spotlight is an absolutely fabulous film. Is it entertaining as a film? Perhaps not. Who’s going to “feel good” after seeing this?

    Sophisticated, unhurried, poignant, with a terrific cast (the first “interviewee” is fabulous, along with the rest), erudite, and unflinching without being zealotous finger pointers, it has a first-rate script and terrific pacing by the director and editor, both of whom are being largely “dismissed” as asides.

    Everyone shared the responsibility.

    If it wins Best Picture, it is worthy of it. My head is on board.

    But hey gang, my heart is with Mad Max.

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    Lifeless? I think this thread proves the huge divide between people who love crap like The Revenant and Mad Max: Fury Road – pretentious movies that have a hidden right-wing ideology that is hard to “see” and appeals to people who think movies need to be hyperviolent to hold their attention, and films that are about subjects that are left-leaning and less frenetic but still superb. Every acting performance in Spotlight is superb (except for Keaton, who is average). The film is so well edited, written, directed – fortunately a majority of academy members might just agree with me! I sure hope so. another pretentious drivel movie winning BP two years in a row (by the same friggin’ overrated filmmaker!) is just too idiotic even for the academy!

    I would cast my vote for Best Supporting Actor for Mark Ruffalo this year. Stallone will win and he’s great, but I rate Ruffalo and Bale higher than him performance-wise. I absolutely loved McAdams performance! She is the best of the 3 real Supporting Actress nominees; but I rate category fraud Alicia Vikander and Rooney Mara higher but of course they have way more screen time.

    My grades for each film:
    The Big Short: A
    Bridge Of Spies: B+
    Brooklyn: B+
    Mad Max: Fury Road: F
    The Martian: A
    The Revenant: D
    Room: A
    Spotlight: A

    (Again, there is a split in perceptions about movies that I think is based on age, gender, class, personal issues around power, etc.)

    This is what I think the final vote will be from academy members:
    Spotlight: 20%
    The Revenant: 18%
    The Big Short: 16%
    Mad Max: Fury Road: 14%
    Room: 10%
    The Martian: 8%
    Brooklyn: 8%
    Bridge Of Spies: 6%

    This is my prediction of what the final vote tallies for Best Picture will be. I am predicting Spotlight. Do I think it’s the best film? I think it’s a 3-way tie with The Big Short and Room, honestly. Carol, Trumbo, The Danish Girl, Creed would have all gotten in for me instead of TR, MM: FR, Bridge Of Spies and Brooklyn.

    We know which way the wind blows here on Gold Derby but I don’t think GD reflects the academy very well at all. Didn’t Keaton win big here last year, but Redmayne won the Oscar? Rosamund Pike and Gone Girl were beloved here but the academy gave it only one nomination and no wins. GDer’s sure love violence and the more hyper and depraved the better! I prefer quieter films that are more compassionate and move me more deeply, such as Spotlight!

    I hesitated asking this before Freeman, but what on earth do you mean by “hidden right-wing ideology” or agenda ? Or, am I too blinded to see it?

    Also, when you speak of ‘violence’, which film was actually more violent, or depicted and implied more violence?

    Mad Max? Or Spotlight?

    I can see how vehement you’ve been trashing MM but, I’m not entirely sure about where you’re coming from and I’m curious (please dont shoot me for it)

     

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    I know that there are some “Spotlight” threads, but I wanted to make a poll of a theory of mine.

    So I’ve seen the film just now and it’s incredibly lifeless and average with no real emotional impact. It’s not bad piece by any means, but hardly remarkable either, and it doesn’t scream Best Picture of the Year for me. The screenplay is a bit weak (I seriously don’t understand what’s so excellent about the screenplay) and the characters are underwritten for my personal taste. Most of the performances are forgettable as well with an exception of Rachel McAdams and Liev Schreiber. Michael Keaton is personally a huge disappointment and Mark Ruffalo is just painfully annoying most of the time.

    I don’t understand the hype. It’s not a one in a million type of masterpiece. It’s a decent, with a fine, but once again, hardly  outstanding ensemble effort.

    So what’s up with this? Maybe I’m alone with my opinion…maybe you all prove me wrong by saying it’s one of the best this year…but I feel, that the love has a bit more to do with the topic than the actual film. It’s a very shocking and nasty issue and with the support, it can gain attention for sure. But does it make it acceptable to have a way-too-average BP front-runner? Not in my book.

    I think out of the six Oscar nominations it has recieved, I would totally give this one Oscar nomination, for Rachel McAdams and that’s it. And maybe not even McAdams will make my personal cut.

    I’m just really, really disappointed, because I do wanted to love this.

     

    Hey Vince..(sorry folks for the triple post)….why cant it be for both reasons?

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    It’s a terrific film and to me easily the best of the nominees. It has great rhythm, terrific acting (but not the overblown look-at-me acting most nominees give us), a complex and nuanced script and it’s a film that is all about economy of the storytelling and creating an intelligent narrative that isn’t even that much about the scandal as it is about the process of journalism. Most films (take Truth for instance) want to give us heroes and present us with the idea of the hard workers who change the world because of their strong personalities and strong ideals (Robert Redford’s standing ovation at the end of Truth is cringeworthy and quite tasteless) while Spotlight doesn’t create heroes. And I loved that. I’ve seen it four or five times already and it only gets better. Every shot contains as much information as it needs, the dialogue is precise and not even one line is wasted, most actors are given plenty to work with but sentiment isn’t there, not even in Stanley Tucci’s part where it could have sneaked in easily. Yes, it doesn’t dazze the eye. It doesn’t have the thrills of All the President’s Men. But this film stayed with me. 

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    Mcadams and Schreiber are both obviously the stand outs of this great film.But the whole ensemble is great.Some are better than others, but there isn’t a weak link at all tbh

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    “Spotlight” is an excellent film. It deserves to be in the BP conversation as much as the rest of the field (if not more).

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