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  • Jeffrey Kare
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    #203010

    I know there is already a thread covering the new Star Wars movie. But I would like to discuss in detail as to how could it possibly be a Oscar contender in the main categories?

    Sure, it currently has a 95% on Rotten Tomatoes, but doesn’t automatically mean Oscar contender. The 2009 Star Trek film is also at 95% on RT, and that only got nominations for Visual Effects, Makeup (which it won), Sound Editing, and Sound Mixing. The Avengers is at 92%, and that only got one nomination for Visual Effects.

    While the original Star Wars film from 1977 did recieve Oscar nominations in major categories, films like that back then were considered groundbreaking. Nowadays, they’re just a dime-a-dozen.

    The only possible way I could see the new Star Wars film be up for some major Academy Awards is for it to do something groundbreaking like The Dark Knight, Avatar, and/or Mad Max: Fury Road. 

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    WildforFilm
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    In my opinion, I think Star Wars could get nominations for the following:

    • Best Picture- 
    • Best Director
    • Best Supporting Actor- Harrison Ford (crazy to some, but veteran actors do well here and Ford is still Oscar-less and is returning as the character that made him a star)
    • Best Adapted Screenplay
    • Best Costume Design
    • Best Cinematography- the “look” of this film is stunning
    • Best Production Design- the use of real props and sets should earn it a spot
    • Best Sound Mixing
    • Best Sound Editing
    • Best Visual Effects
    • Best Score 
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    kvothe_snow
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    Given its mammoth momentum right now, it would be very hard to ignore this. It seems to be universally praised as well. I was hesitant at first to include this as a serious BP contender given the fact that it has to hurdle over prejudices against the 3 prequels. It seems this movie is muscling up to join the race.

    I predict a nomination for Best Picture but not Best director as the latter category is stacked with strong frontrunners. 

    We know it will get nominations for technical category and will probably win at least for sound/score. 

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    Jeffrey Kare
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    #203014

    But is it really the kind of film that would be up for Best Picture? It was definitely a surprise to me that it was listed as one of the best films of the year by AFI.

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    kvothe_snow
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    Well, the first Star Wars was nominated for Best Picture. Of similar scale was LOTR that racked up Best picture nominations for all its films. More recently, Avatar was also nominated for BP. So yes, the Academy is not unfamiliar with epic fantasy films.

    I guess my one hesitation is that all those epic fantasy films were known for groundbreaking stuff. I have not read a critic review praising it for being groundbreaking. If the Academy will reward a film that transcended its genre, it would be Mad Max. But Mad Max is a much smaller film than Star Wars. It’s not as epic and fantasy-ish as Star Wars. I can see both joining the race.

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    Tye-Grr
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    I think it could get a Best Picture nomination. I don’t think any other above the line nominations will happen though, although I think JJ Abrams is a dark horse contender for Best Director. 

    Harrison Ford ain’t happening. The veteran returning to a character that made him a star that is Oscar-less slot is going to Sylvester Stallone, and he deserves it. Ford is good in ‘TFA’, but it doesn’t ask much of him at all.

    Of the actors, Daisy Ridley is the standout, and she is just terrific. But she unfortunately has no chance being the lead actress, that category is just too competitive. John Boyega is great, but his category is even more so.

    I think Adam Driver SHOULD be considered for Supporting Actor- he is fantastic. But I doubt that happens. He would be deserving of the consideration though, IMO.

    The screenplay is not getting nominated. It’s serviceable, and it’s funny, but it’s nowhere near enough to get in.

    Cinematography is strong, but again, it’s just not distinct or great enough to break in this year.

    Realistically, I think these nominations could very well happen:

    Best Picture
    Sound Editing
    Sound Mixing
    Production Design
    Costumes
    Visual Effects
    Original Score
    Editing

    Outside Shot:

    Best Director- JJ Abrams
    Cinematography

    Long Shot:

    Best Actress- Daisy Ridley 
    Adapted Screenplay 

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    Zooey the Dreamer
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    Star Wars faces too many hurdles. Had it come out in November, it could have had enough time to build momentum but do you think that enough voters will bother to watch it until the deadline in two weeks? I doubt it. Not to mention that there are two critically acclaimed films aiming at the very same voters who would consider Star Wars, so it doesn’t necessarily stand out. And of course, the prequels were terrible and they could make many voters feel as if voting for this film would make the Oscars less prestigeous and important. And yes, it missed the many December awards which hurts as well.

    I’d say between 6 and 7-8 nominations but no major nods. 

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    Bradley Weir
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    It also depends on how many of the Academy voters are big Star Wars fans. Obviously this is exciting times for fans of the franchise, but for me, who isn’t big on it, It’s just a sci-fi film. I know it’s such a huge global phenomenon, but that isn’t going to bother the Academy. Besides, the prequels were only like 10 years ago. Compare it to Fury Road, which has had huge critical acclaim, huge awards success, and its a no contest.

    Harrison Ford has no chance. No. Chance.

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    Rooney Moore
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    Star Wars faces too many hurdles. Had it come out in November, it could have had enough time to build momentum but do you think that enough voters will bother to watch it until the deadline in two weeks? I doubt it. Not to mention that there are two critically acclaimed films aiming at the very same voters who would consider Star Wars, so it doesn’t necessarily stand out. And of course, the prequels were terrible and they could make many voters feel as if voting for this film would make the Oscars less prestigeous and important. And yes, it missed the many December awards which hurts as well.

    I’d say between 6 and 7-8 nominations but no major nods. 

    This.
    Not every Academy member is the old fancy snob you’d imagine your mind, who masturbates over baity biopics and British snoozefests.
    Those sound editing&mixing, visual effects, animation guys are without a doubt the big fans of this franchise. And it probably has its own admirers among cinematographers, editors and even directors. And I’ve just counted the half of the Academy.
    The tricky thing is that like Zooey mentioned there are just too many acclaimed blockbusters this year that will split that kind of support. In any other year, any of them would stand out but I can’t imagine The Martian, Mad Max and Star Wars getting in at the same time in Best Picture. That would be TOO much for Academy’s calibre after nominating 3 biopics just last year.(4, actually but A.Sniper doesn’t exactly fit in that group) And I didn’t even count Inside Out whose, again needs more below the line support to make the cut. Creed and SOC aim at those voters, too.

    No way the actors will go for a movie like this. 

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    Guest2014
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    #203020

    Mad Max Fury Road is a glorified car chase movie in the vein of Furious 7.  Remember that always.  

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    Rooney Moore
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    #203021

    Mad Max Fury Road is a glorified car chase movie in the vein of Furious 7.  Remember that always.  

    And both Vin Diesel and Jason Statham are Oscar voters from Acting branch. Remember that always 😉 

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    kvothe_snow
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    #203022

    Mad Max Fury Road is a glorified car chase movie in the vein of Furious 7.  Remember that always.  

    Also remember that Mad Max started its own post-apocalyptic sub-genre too, with Water world being essentially Mad Max in water. And of all car chase movies out there, is there a more praised movie than Mad Max in all its technical, practical effects-laden glory? 

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    Bradley Weir
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    #203023

    Mad Max Fury Road is a glorified car chase movie in the vein of Furious 7.  Remember that always.  

    The difference being that Mad Max Fury Road is a technical masterpiece unlike Furious 7 and has raised the bar for that genre. Remember that always.

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    GusCruz
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    #203024

    People still take PaulHanlinJr seriously around here?

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    Damian Pietrzak
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    #203025

    Daisy Ridley for Oscar! #FYC

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