Supporting Ladies #11 – Virginia Madsen or Sandra Oh in “Sideways”?

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  • Anonymous
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    #181784

    We have a consensus very early, so there is no point to wait with the Adams/Leo poll. Now, one of the most interesting poll of all. 

    “THE FIGTER” POLL RESULTS
    1. Amy Adams ‖ 67% 
    2. Melissa Leo ‖ 33%

    SUPPORTING LADIES POLL SERIES
    Previous Results
    1# “Birdman” – Emma Stone (60%) vs. Naomi Watts (40%)
    2# “Gone Girl” – Carrie Coon (74%) vs. Kim Dickens (26%)
    3# “Into the Woods” – Anna Kendrick (37%) vs. Meryl Streep (63%)
    4# “Black Swan” – Barbara Hershey (56%) vs. Mila Kunis (44%)
    5# “Gone with the Wind” – Hattie McDaniel (71%) vs. Butterfly McQueen (29%)
    6# “The Help” – Jessica Chastain (43%) vs. Bryce Dallas Howard (19%) vs. Octavia Spencer (38%)
    7# “12 Years a Slave” – Lupita Nyong’o (55%) vs. Sarah Paulson (45%)
    8# “Mean Girls” – Lizzy Caplan (17%) vs. Rachel McAdams (83%)
    9# “Doubt” – Amy Adams (37%) vs. Viola Davis (63%)
    10# “The Fighter” – Amy Adams (67%) vs. Melissa Leo (33%)

    SUBMITTED IDEAS FOR THE POLL SERIES
    Miriam Margolyes & Winona Ryder in “The Age of Innocence”
    Celeste Holm & Thelma Ritter in “All About Eve”
    Kate Hudson & Frances McDormand in “Almost Famous”
    Thora Birch & Mena Suvari in “American Beauty”
    Cameron Diaz & Catherine Keener in “Being John Malkovich”
    Rose Bryne & Melissa McCarthy in “Bridesmaids”
    Michelle Pfeiffer & Uma Thurman in “Dangerous Liaisons”
    Julie Harris & Jo Van Fleet in “East of Eden”
    Sally Field & Robin Wright in “Forrest Gump”
    Diane Keaton & Talia Shire in “The Godfather: Part II”
    Helen Mirren & Maggie Smith & Kristin Scott Thomas in “Gosford Park”
    Jessica Chastain & Mackenzie Foy in “Interstellar”
    Ellen Burstyn & Cloris Leachman in “The Last Picture Show”
    Samantha Barks & Anne Hathaway & Amanda Seyfried in “Les Misérables”
    Jennifer Connelly & Emma Watson in “Noah”
    Rosemarie DeWitt & Debra Winger in “Rachel Getting Married”
    Diane Cilento & Edith Evans & Joyce Redman in “Tom Jones”
    Jessica Lange & Teri Garr in “Tootsie”
    Marisa Tomei & Evan Rachel Wood in “The Wrestler”

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     We talk about diversity a lot and how important
    that is in the film industry, but I feel like that we concentrate not much on certain
    races, such as Asian people which is a bit sad for me. There are too many
    outstanding Asian talents to ignore them. Who was the last Asian actress
    nominated for an Oscar? Rinko Kikuchi? That was almost like 10 years ago. Such
    a shame.

    For example. Virginia Madsen did absolutely
    nothing in Sideways. I mean, she was just there, talking. No characterization,
    no depth, nothing. Sandra Oh at least yelled loudly once. And she was actually
    good. Worthy for the Oscar nomination as much as any nominee that year. Her
    unquestionable talent could be seen on Grey’s Anatomy. She’s the pure talent
    Hollywood needs right now. Will she ever make it to the Oscars? Nah. But
    Jennifer Aniston will. That’s Hollywood. Oh well.

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    Icky
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    #181787

    Yes, Oh had a brief scene where she screamed and therefore gave the superior performance. Sure. I agree about Asian talent getting ignored in Hollywood. But I don’t see what that has to do with Oh’s performance here or the random comparison to Jennifer Aniston. 

    In most years I wouldn’t think Madsen was Oscar worthy. But that was such a weak supporting actress year and Sideways is so good that I don’t mind the nomination or even win. She’s charming, has solid chemistry with Giamatti and wonderfully delivers one of the sexiest monologues in recent movie history. 

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    babypook
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    Virginia was my personal favorite nominee that year. I liked Sideways inspite of Oh. It’s not that she was bad, but imo, she’s the weakest link.

    Virginia is up amongst my all-time favorite perfs. Sorry Hilary. You’re good too, but……

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    babypook
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     We talk about diversity a lot and how important
    that is in the film industry, but I feel like that we concentrate not much on certain
    races, such as Asian people which is a bit sad for me. There are too many
    outstanding Asian talents to ignore them. Who was the last Asian actress
    nominated for an Oscar? Rinko Kikuchi? That was almost like 10 years ago. Such
    a shame.

    For example. Virginia Madsen did absolutely
    nothing in Sideways. I mean, she was just there, talking. No characterization,
    no depth, nothing. Sandra Oh at least yelled loudly once. And she was actually
    good. Worthy for the Oscar nomination as much as any nominee that year. Her
    unquestionable talent could be seen on Grey’s Anatomy. She’s the pure talent
    Hollywood needs right now. Will she ever make it to the Oscars? Nah. But
    Jennifer Aniston will. That’s Hollywood. Oh well.

    The AAFCA gave Ray the win that year, but Sideways was in their top ten (top five actually).

    I’m pretty sure Canadian Critics gave Sideways, Giamatti,  Madsen, and the film the wins. TIFF as well.

    But you know, Sandra is Canadian. Although Canadians have won in the past (Christopher Plummer, James Cameron, et al), this has been more of a barrier to Oh than her Asian roots.

    jmho

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    Halo_Insider
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    I love Virginia Madsen’s work here. Her speech about waiting for wine to evolve through time until “it tastes so fucking good” was a great little moment, and I enjoy the scene where she tells off Giamatti. Probably for using the word “extricate” in a sentence.

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    Okay, maybe I was wrong by pulling out the race card on this, but I thought that Sandy Oh was overlooked for her natural performance. And I still do think, that she’s the leading lady Hollywood’s looking for.

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    Eddy Q
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    Madsen is outstanding in Sideways. For me this is one of the great “listening” performances, where you can study how a character receives others in conversation, her reactions in the moment, and how this informs her own social performance, with all its nuances and subtle insecurities. Yet none of this feels forced or obvious; she naturally communicates empathy and understanding. Sandra Oh is fine but is simply not given the material to reach Madsen’s level (this is not a criticism of the movie, it’s intended that way).

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    bump

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    Noé
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    Okay, maybe I was wrong by pulling out the race card on this, but I thought that Sandy Oh was overlooked for her natural performance. And I still do think, that she’s the leading lady Hollywood’s looking for.

    A loudly yes to that!

    Sandra Oh is a marvelous actress. Overlooked by now, but all she needs is THE role. She needs the role to make a big impression to then start a career working with the greatest. She has what it takes.

    It’s not hard to me imagine her having a sweeping awards year. Oh is that good.

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    Gabriel
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    #181795

    Virginia Madsen was great and nailed her big monologue. She should have won the Oscar.

    Sandra Oh? She was barely even in the film; I don’t even remember anything about her performance. Madsen’s role was the more substantial part, so this was a no-brainer. Madsen is the better role/performance by far.

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    #181796

    Virginia Madsen

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    Emmys2011
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    #181797

    Who wouldn´t vote for Madsen? Even if you don´t like the performance (I loved it), the substance and importance simply cannont be compared.

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    Who wouldn´t vote for Madsen? Even if you don´t like the performance (I loved it), the substance and importance simply cannont be compared.

    I wouldn’t. She did absolutely nothing in her role. I knew she has her fans for this performance, and I’m fine with less-baity ones, but somehow I don’t remember a single memorable moment about her in “Sideways”.

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    babypook
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    [quote=”emmys2011″]Who wouldn´t vote for Madsen? Even if you don´t like the performance (I loved it), the substance and importance simply cannont be compared.

    I wouldn’t. She did absolutely nothing in her role. I knew she has her fans for this performance, and I’m fine with less-baity ones, but somehow I don’t remember a single memorable moment about her in “Sideways”.[/quote]

    Are you implying that anyone who appreciates her perf is a fanboy? Lol. Actually, I am. Since The Hot Spot, and the unfortunate Dune. But this has nothing to do with how captured I was by her here.

    Sorry you couldnt see the magic of her performance in Sideways.

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