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    SUPPORTING LADIES POLL SERIES
    Previous Results
    1# “Birdman” – Emma Stone (60%) vs. Naomi Watts (40%) – 35 voters
    2# “Gone Girl” – Carrie Coon (74%) vs. Kim Dickens (26%) – 35 voters
    3# “Into the Woods” – Anna Kendrick (37%) vs. Meryl Streep (63%) – 30 voters 

    Discuss. 

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    For me it’s not hard to call it to Barbara Hershey, because although Mila Kunis is very magnetic in the role of Lily, it is Hershey who’s performance is the most impressive (and yet, not Oscar-worthy) among the supporting cast.

    I’m shocked Kunis made it that far in 2010 for such an average performance. But it was a weak year for Supporting Actresses (which year is not weak for them, really?), so I’m okay with it.

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    FilmGuy619
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    I would choose Hershey.Her performance really crawled under my skin.Although, I thought Kunis was amazing and also worthy of a Supporting Actress nom. Some could argue that she isn’t doing much other than being a carefree party girl. But when you look at how she makes Portman’s character paranoid, thus fueling her arc and acting as the Black Swan persona, you realize that even though she is hardly doing anything, in reality, she is doing everything.

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    I recall being baffled by the “Mila Kunis should get an Oscar nomination” and “wow who would have thought an actor from That 70’s Show could act?”

     

    As for Barbara, she’s been good for soooo long. If she had more screen time voting for her would seem more viable.

    As it is, I cant bring myself to vote for either of these ladies.

    Btw I dont believe it was a ‘weak’ year for Supporting actors. Aside from the one category fraud, that lineup imo is pretty solid, not to mention the snubs that occur every single year. But then, I have never looked at any year in any category as ‘weak’, although, perhaps some weak choices.

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    Macbeth
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    Hershey – she took a thankless role and made it unique.

    Kunis was good, but only passable  

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    I recall being baffled by the “Mila Kunis should get an Oscar nomination” and “wow who would have thought an actor from That 70’s Show could act?”

     

    As for Barbara, she’s been good for soooo long. If she had more screen time voting for her would seem more viable.

    As it is, I cant bring myself to vote for either of these ladies.

    Btw I dont believe it was a ‘weak’ year for Supporting actors. Aside from the one category fraud, that lineup imo is pretty solid, not to mention the snubs that occur every single year. But then, I have never looked at any year in any category as ‘weak’, although, perhaps some weak choices.

    Yepp. With more screentime, she would be on my personal list as well.

    I think it’s an incredibly weak year for Supporting Actresses. All Leo, Adams, Weaver and Bonham Carter were mediocre. And Steifeld was great, but lead indeed.

    Where is Kimberly Elise in “For Colored Girls”? Where is Melissa Leo in “Welcome to the Rileys”? Kristin Scott Thomas and Anne-Marie Duff in “Nowhere Boy”? These are not only better, but are knockout performances by supporting women!

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    [quote=”babypook”]

    I recall being baffled by the “Mila Kunis should get an Oscar nomination” and “wow who would have thought an actor from That 70’s Show could act?”

     

    As for Barbara, she’s been good for soooo long. If she had more screen time voting for her would seem more viable.

    As it is, I cant bring myself to vote for either of these ladies.

    Btw I dont believe it was a ‘weak’ year for Supporting actors. Aside from the one category fraud, that lineup imo is pretty solid, not to mention the snubs that occur every single year. But then, I have never looked at any year in any category as ‘weak’, although, perhaps some weak choices.

    Yepp. With more screentime, she would be on my personal list as well.

    I think it’s an incredibly weak year for Supporting Actresses. All Leo, Adams, Weaver and Bonham Carter were mediocre. And Steifeld was great, but lead indeed.

    Where is Kimberly Elise in “For Colored Girls”? Where is Melissa Leo in “Welcome to the Rileys“? Kristin Scott Thomas and Anne-Marie Duff in “Nowhere Boy”? These are not only better, but are knockout performances by supporting women![/quote]

     

     You surprise me sometimes Vince. Lol. Leo, was so good in Welcome to the Rileys, it almost hurt. And Stewart, didnt stink!

    I’m biased re Anne-Marie Duff but she is terrific here! Neither of these films or perfs was going to happen.

    We part ways when you say Leo, Adams, Weaver and HBC were ‘mediocre’. They all deserved their nominations imo and my personal choice, would be Jackie Weaver, for her chilling, sociopathic rendering of mommy dearest.

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    “my personal choice, would be Jacki Weaver, for her chilling, sociopathic rendering of mommy dearest.”

    THIS! She should have steamrolled through awards season, but at least she won LAFCA and NBR. It makes me sick to think she might have got more votes for Silver Linings Playbook than Animal Kingdom (there were people voting for SLP in every category it was nominated in!)

    Btw I voted for Hershey over Kunis, as Hershey’s character has more dramatic weight. But I think Kunis did a good job with contrasting the reality of her character with Nina’s illusions of her.

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    Loved Mila Kunis but this one have to go with Hershey.

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    Hershey. And I did think it was Oscar worthy. I am so happy BAFTA nominated her. I loved Mila Kunis too and Winona Ryder too! 

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    Hershey. And I did think it was Oscar worthy. I am so happy BAFTA nominated her. I loved Mila Kunis too and Winona Ryder too! 

    It was too late. The same happened to Adams and Big Eyes this year. Bafta is a good award, with tons of surprises, and it’s also supposed to generate buzz, but they are sharing their nominees too late to make someone a strong contender.

    I loved her Bafta nom, because it was shocking next to that Kunis/Weaver/Leo snub, and Steinfeld lead nomination.

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    [quote=”Vincelette”][quote=”babypook”]

    I recall being baffled by the “Mila Kunis should get an Oscar nomination” and “wow who would have thought an actor from That 70’s Show could act?”

     

    As for Barbara, she’s been good for soooo long. If she had more screen time voting for her would seem more viable.

    As it is, I cant bring myself to vote for either of these ladies.

    Btw I dont believe it was a ‘weak’ year for Supporting actors. Aside from the one category fraud, that lineup imo is pretty solid, not to mention the snubs that occur every single year. But then, I have never looked at any year in any category as ‘weak’, although, perhaps some weak choices.

    Yepp. With more screentime, she would be on my personal list as well.

    I think it’s an incredibly weak year for Supporting Actresses. All Leo, Adams, Weaver and Bonham Carter were mediocre. And Steifeld was great, but lead indeed.

    Where is Kimberly Elise in “For Colored Girls”? Where is Melissa Leo in “Welcome to the Rileys“? Kristin Scott Thomas and Anne-Marie Duff in “Nowhere Boy”? These are not only better, but are knockout performances by supporting women![/quote]

     

     You surprise me sometimes Vince. Lol. Leo, was so good in Welcome to the Rileys, it almost hurt. And Stewart, didnt stink!

    I’m biased re Anne-Marie Duff but she is terrific here! Neither of these films or perfs was going to happen.

    We part ways when you say Leo, Adams, Weaver and HBC were ‘mediocre’. They all deserved their nominations imo and my personal choice, would be Jackie Weaver, for her chilling, sociopathic rendering of mommy dearest.

    [/quote]

    It’s funny because I watched “Animal Kindom” (such a mediocre movie) and I expected Jacki Weaver to be THAT good (she was buzzed as f*uk by movie fans) and all I see was a good (not frightining, though) performance with barely any screentime. So I was not impressed. The great thing if Jacki Weaver will ever get a meaty role, she will probably win an Oscar. She’s just too popular in the Academy after her nominations.

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    Hershey was great and should have been nominated. She helped ground a really nutty character.

    She’s been great for decades and it’s a shame she only has the one oscar nom (well deserved for The Portrait of a Lady”), but I guess her two Cannes Best Actress awards aren’t nothing.

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    It’s the first time in our Poll Series that THE BUZZED (as for Awards Season) performer can lose to the NOT BUZZED one 🙂

    Although I thought it’s going to be a tighter race 🙂

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    [quote=”Vincelette”][quote=”babypook”]

    I recall being baffled by the “Mila Kunis should get an Oscar nomination” and “wow who would have thought an actor from That 70’s Show could act?”

     

    As for Barbara, she’s been good for soooo long. If she had more screen time voting for her would seem more viable.

    As it is, I cant bring myself to vote for either of these ladies.

    Btw I dont believe it was a ‘weak’ year for Supporting actors. Aside from the one category fraud, that lineup imo is pretty solid, not to mention the snubs that occur every single year. But then, I have never looked at any year in any category as ‘weak’, although, perhaps some weak choices.

    Yepp. With more screentime, she would be on my personal list as well.

    I think it’s an incredibly weak year for Supporting Actresses. All Leo, Adams, Weaver and Bonham Carter were mediocre. And Steifeld was great, but lead indeed.

    Where is Kimberly Elise in “For Colored Girls”? Where is Melissa Leo in “Welcome to the Rileys“? Kristin Scott Thomas and Anne-Marie Duff in “Nowhere Boy”? These are not only better, but are knockout performances by supporting women![/quote]

     

     You surprise me sometimes Vince. Lol. Leo, was so good in Welcome to the Rileys, it almost hurt. And Stewart, didnt stink!

    I’m biased re Anne-Marie Duff but she is terrific here! Neither of these films or perfs was going to happen.

    We part ways when you say Leo, Adams, Weaver and HBC were ‘mediocre’. They all deserved their nominations imo and my personal choice, would be Jackie Weaver, for her chilling, sociopathic rendering of mommy dearest.

    [/quote]

    I watched The King’s Speech again today (it was on TV) and I was surprised how good it was, given all the flack it took after the Oscars. I recall it got a lot of shit thrown at it for supposedly bad direction etc. but that’s not the way I remembered the film and this second viewing confirmed that TKS deserved its Oscars. HBC gave an excellent performance, one of her better ones, and fully deserved the nomination. BTW, I hated The Fighter and I think Bale’s Oscar should have gone to Rush (I haven’t liked Christian Bale in any performance whatsoever since 1998.)

    Also, Vincelette is absolutely wrong about Animal Kingdom being “mediocre” — it is a stupendous movie, and Jackie Weaver was scary and brilliant in it.

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