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  • Tonbone
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    I do not mean it was a disaster because of the winners that is a different discussion for a different thread I mean as soon as I found out they were combining film and TV award categories to the same show I was furious and I knew it would be bad. For one thing shows like Silicon Valley, Veep, Better Call Saul, Girls, etc that were nominated last year haven’t aired their new seasons yet so they won’t be nominated again here until next year. Last year the show was on may 31st so all those shows were nominated because they aired in the spring that is why the TV show should be in the spring seperate from the films. Also they just added categories that didn’t belong like best action movie etc. and handed out some awards before the show and during commercial breaks which cheapened and ruined those categories. Everyone agree or disagree?

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    AMG
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    I only watched a couple of minutes of it at the beginning, but TJ Miller was not that funny. I barely laughed, especially compared to Gervais last weekend at the Globes. 

    They’ve combined the awards, but not got rid of any from either ceremony. Why do we need Comedy/Action genre categories in a show like this, as well as main categories for films?

    They’ve tried to become like the Globes, but better predictors of the Oscars because they don’t really vote for the best – they vote for who they think will win the Oscar. If voting were delayed by a week or two, odds are The Revenant would have won more.

    The TV Awards are now sidelined monumentally. When they were in before the Emmys, they actually served some sort of purpose, now it just feels like an add-on to make them more like the Globes.

    I can deal with the mixed ceremonies with the Globes, because it is the way it has always been, and they streamline some categories. The Critic’s Choice doesn’t work in that way. I hope they reverse their decision and go back to separate ceremonies, so that each art form can have their own turn in the spotlight.
     

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    Rooney Moore
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     I like the way it goes now. Would anyone in Holywood care that Carrie Coon, Constance Zimmer and Master of None won awards if they were handed out separately in different shows like they used to? I don’t think so. People would probably see it on the headlines on Variety on the morning, but wouldn’t even care enough to look it up. Winning an award in the same night as Slyvester Stallone and Christian Bale, and giving a speech to the crowd that they have given a speech; gives them a higher prestige and who knows, maybe enough to buzz to help them climb the mountain that’s going to the Emmys. Isn’t it already the whole purpose of this award show?

    To my surprise, they also didn’t skip any important categories, either. Mini/Movie supporting categories were already being handed out early on the red carpet. And guest categories should be happy that they are in the conversation at all. TV people were also happy as well. I don’t remember seeing these many emotional speeches in previous years when they’re in a smaller room and the event was quieter. Nearly all of them showed up. The opposite of Globes; that was a TV dominated award show and the 2 of 3 awards they have presented it last were related to TV. It looked like winning Best Drama/Comedy series were just as important as winning Best Movie which was kind of cool. If it’s the celebration of filmmaking in both big and small screen in the previous year, they should be celebrated together. With the increase of cable and streaming shows, I don’t think that Emmy calendar(September-June)doesn’t have much bearing, anymore.

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    tennisfreak
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    Putting it on a separate weekend from the Globes definitely diminished the star power which made the show seem second rate. If your only major nominee that you cut to is Matt Damon come on!

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    I was happy enough to listen and maybe learn something about their nominated Television shows. But I agree that they should have their own Awards, separate from Films, for CC’s.

    It may have sailed better but the entire telecast was rushed and ‘dumbed down’. These, are the “Critics” show? This demographic is whom they think are watching their broadcast?

    Although I am familiar with the ones who have made even ONE movie, I can tell you that most of the nominees in television are nowhere near my radar. In fact, the only ones I am familiar with were mentioned in that “Binge-Off” or whatever. (Btw, can someone enlighten me as to where these fawning and aggressive Outlander fans are coming from? I mean, they’re streaming in like World War Z minions imo…and yes, I like that show)

    Dont get me wrong. Some of the best programmes are on the small screen, and with terrific work from their casts.

    But if I want to see Television Awards, I’ll watch the Emmys. It’s a narrow perspective perhaps, but there it is.

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    GusCruz
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    Honestly I can’t really complain since they gave MM 9 well-deserved awards, but that host was the worst in recent history of televised awards.

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    This show made the golden globes look classy

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    Lord Freddy Blackfyre
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    It was bad in every way: Bad production of the show, the award for best picture look forced. The tv awards doesn’t make any sense….If Rachel Bloom wouldn’t won the GG she wouldn’t won here either…same for Mr. Robot.

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    JOHN
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    Too many categories, but they gave Mad Max 9 awards so I guess it wasn’t that bad. 

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    ADouble
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    They literally gave out 53 awards last night. Your awards show can’t not be a mess if you’re trying to cram that much into 3 hours.

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    Also the statuette is ass ugly. Like something you’d win at a high school talent show.

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    Although I am familiar with the ones who have made even ONE movie, I can tell you that most of the nominees in television are nowhere near my radar. In fact, the only ones I am familiar with were mentioned in that “Binge-Off” or whatever. (Btw, can someone enlighten me as to where these fawning and aggressive Outlander fans are coming from? I mean, they’re streaming in like World War Z minions imo…and yes, I like that show)

    Dont get me wrong. Some of the best programmes are on the small screen, and with terrific work from their casts.

    But if I want to see Television Awards, I’ll watch the Emmys. It’s a narrow perspective perhaps, but there it is.

    Babypook, you dont want to meet them. They have extra voting groups and also ask family members to vote for them. I was part of a group, where some members spend 24h just voting on several devices. The book series are very beloved (some have waited over 20 years for them to be adapted), so they are very protective of it and for some, its the only show they watch and naturally the only show, that deserved to be nominated for everything.

    If you can, check out The Leftovers and Fargo. Both are amazing. Fargo is just – for me – the best made TV programm of 2016 and The Leftovers is the most emotional programm I have seen in a long time. Every episode just got better and better and – especially the female – performences are exceptional. Rectify is just a great show – very quite – but nonetheless very emotional and important. If you like horror – good made horror – watch Penny Dreadful. The second season had not just cracking dialogues but was also very stunning. And UnReal was just a joy to watch. For me – Shiri Appleby´s character is the female Rylan Givens (Justified) – the new female antihero (and Constance Zimmer is just a joy to watch). After watching it, you will never – if you watch it at all – watch the Bachelor with the same eyes again. 

    If you want to watch a good comedy about diversity watch Fresh off the Boat or Black-ish. My favourite however is You´r the worst. The second season featured an amazing, honest portrayal about mental illness and the challenge to live with it and the challenge for others to accept and deal with it. 
     

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    Cathy97
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     I like the way it goes now. Would anyone in Holywood care that Carrie Coon, Constance Zimmer and Master of None won awards if they were handed out separately in different shows like they used to? I don’t think so. People would probably see it on the headlines on Variety on the morning, but wouldn’t even care enough to look it up. Winning an award in the same night as Slyvester Stallone and Christian Bale, and giving a speech to the crowd that they have given a speech; gives them a higher prestige and who knows, maybe enough to buzz to help them climb the mountain that’s going to the Emmys. Isn’t it already the whole purpose of this award show?

    If that is the case, than why go with Mr. Robot and Christian Slater? They had allready won the Globes and spreading the wealth would have helped other shows to get (maybe) into the emmy race.  

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    24Emmy
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    Honestly I can’t really complain since they gave MM 9 well-deserved awards, but that host was the worst in recent history of televised awards.

    T. J. Miller wasn’t a good host by any means, but still an improvement over last year’s Michael Strahan.

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    babypook
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    [quote=”babypook”]

    Although I am familiar with the ones who have made even ONE movie, I can tell you that most of the nominees in television are nowhere near my radar. In fact, the only ones I am familiar with were mentioned in that “Binge-Off” or whatever. (Btw, can someone enlighten me as to where these fawning and aggressive Outlander fans are coming from? I mean, they’re streaming in like World War Z minions imo…and yes, I like that show)

    Dont get me wrong. Some of the best programmes are on the small screen, and with terrific work from their casts.

    But if I want to see Television Awards, I’ll watch the Emmys. It’s a narrow perspective perhaps, but there it is.

    Babypook, you dont want to meet them. They have extra voting groups and also ask family members to vote for them. I was part of a group, where some members spend 24h just voting on several devices. The book series are very beloved (some have waited over 20 years for them to be adapted), so they are very protective of it and for some, its the only show they watch and naturally the only show, that deserved to be nominated for everything.

    If you can, check out The Leftovers and Fargo. Both are amazing. Fargo is just – for me – the best made TV programm of 2016 and The Leftovers is the most emotional programm I have seen in a long time. Every episode just got better and better and – especially the female – performences are exceptional. Rectify is just a great show – very quite – but nonetheless very emotional and important. If you like horror – good made horror – watch Penny Dreadful. The second season had not just cracking dialogues but was also very stunning. And UnReal was just a joy to watch. For me – Shiri Appleby´s character is the female Rylan Givens (Justified) – the new female antihero (and Constance Zimmer is just a joy to watch). After watching it, you will never – if you watch it at all – watch the Bachelor with the same eyes again. 

    If you want to watch a good comedy about diversity watch Fresh off the Boat or Black-ish. My favourite however is You´r the worst. The second season featured an amazing, honest portrayal about mental illness and the challenge to live with it and the challenge for others to accept and deal with it. 
     
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    Wow thanks for the info Cathy.

    It seems utterly bizarre to me that Outlander fans would go to that extent. This reminds me of when Jonathan Rhys Meyers dropped by for a chat here at GD long ago, and the site crashed from the fans. The most profound question they asked of him was, “Tea or Coffee Jonathan??? Tea or Coffee!

    Or is it not Sam Heughan? At first, I couldnt understand the vitriol against Outlander fans, since I am one…

    Personally, I am into Outlander because of my obsession with history….and Balfe, is perfectly cast here. These writers better know what they’re talking about since they’re talking about changing history. Imo, it’s crazy, but it’s also very intriguing, at least for me.

    Thanks for the head’s up on those television shows. I did see Fargo, the pilot, and once this year. I LOVED both eppies.

    I’ll start with The Leftovers and move on from there.

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