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  • Jason Travis
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    Days before the Oscar announcements, and I’ve just screened I Smile Back with the amazing Sarah Silverman. She appears in every frame, and I was quite surprised how impressed I was with her performance. It’s a very unlikable character and yet she manages to make her vulnerable and intense.

    Silverman is nominated for the SAG, as is Helen Mirren in Woman in Gold. But strangely, that havent’s shown up anywhere else major. What’s the reason for this? And will SAG go 3/5 in Best Actress? I know the last time they did was recently, in 2012- when Marion Cotillard (Rust and Bone) and Mirren herself (Hitchcock). But usually they’re only off by one. 

    So do either have a shot? Or were their nominations pure flukes? Why hasn’t there been passion for them anywhere else? Mirren was also very good in Woman in Gold. 

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    Jason Travis
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    Days before the Oscar announcements, and I’ve just screened I Smile Back with the amazing Sarah Silverman. She appears in every frame, and I was quite surprised how impressed I was with her performance. It’s a very unlikable character and yet she manages to make her vulnerable and intense.

    Silverman is nominated for the SAG, as is Helen Mirren in Woman in Gold. But strangely, that havent’s shown up anywhere else major. What’s the reason for this? And will SAG go 3/5 in Best Actress? I know the last time they did was recently, in 2012- when Marion Cotillard (Rust and Bone) and Mirren herself (Hitchcock). But usually they’re only off by one. 

    So do either have a shot? Or were their nominations pure flukes? Why hasn’t there been passion for them anywhere else? Mirren was also very good in Woman in Gold. 

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    AviChristiaans
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    We could all be totally wrong on Silverman, and the Oscar voters could very well give her the nomination. As long as Charlotte Rampling gets in as well, i really could care less.

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    skylerbound
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    I think they both have a far better chance than Rampling at this point. Sorry, I like Charlotte’s performance but I just don’t see her happening. To quote Tom – “We’re too in the bubble” with this one.

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    Joe Burns
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    I highly doubt Mirren will make it (SAG always goes gaga over her), but Silverman? Who knows?  This season has definitely been crazy and she was nominated here after all, so it’s possible 

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    Very close to predict them both. They are most definitely stronger than BFCA nominee Charlotte Rampling.

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    chem_x
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    I wouldn’t be surprised if Silverman makes it

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    Jason Travis
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    Love the insights so far! Yeah Silverman would be my bet over Mirren. I think she would be very deserving. The film isn’t the best in terms of the over all story arc, but her performance more than makes up for it.

    I MIGHT put her in over Rampling; but I’ve been with Rampling soooo long!! Nuts.  

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    FilmGuy619
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    Between those two, I can imagine Sarah Silverman. Her performance checks a lot of boxes (comedian going serious, playing a person who is an addict, etc.) and if Mirren is likely to get nominated, it’ll be for Trumbo.

    But I think Silverman could easily benefit from an Oscar n omination. It could open doors for her, leading to more dramatic work.

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    Rooney Moore
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    I highly doubt Mirren will make it (SAG always goes gaga over her), but Silverman? Who knows?  This season has definitely been crazy and she was nominated here after all, so it’s possible 

    Actually, I’ve looked it up, and the only time they’ve nominated her but the Academy didn’t was for Hitchcock. And she got in everywhere for that performance, not only SAG. And SAG snubbed her in 1995 before the Academy nominated her; so I wouldn’t say she’s particularly beloved at SAG.
    Woman In Gold’s advantage was probably its box office success. People went to see Ryan Reynolds, not her, but it helped. Her BAFTA snub(for both of her performances) is what confuses things.

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    JOHN
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    Sag voters do this all the time. This reminds me of 2013 when SAG nominated Marion Cotillard for Rust and Bone and Helen Mirren for Hitchcock and they did not happen at the Oscars, and those performances were getting a lot more momentum.  

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    List of actors nominated for SAG but not Globe, BFCA or BAFTA who got an Oscar nomination:

    Demian Bichir  A Better Life

    List of actors nominated for SAG but not Globe, BFCA or BAFTA who did not get an Oscar nomination:

    Naomi Watts  St. Vincent

    Forest Whitaker  The Butler

    Maggie Smith  The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel

    Armie Hammer  J. Edgar

    Hilary Swank  Conviction

    Diane Kruger  Inglourious Basterds

    James Garner  The Notebook

    Cloris Leachman  Spanglish

    Chris Cooper  Seabiscuit

    Michelle Pfeiffer  White Oleander

    Kevin Kline  Life as a House

    Dakota Fanning  I Am Sam

    Gary Oldman  The Contender

    Philip Seymour Hoffman  Flawless

    Chris Cooper  American Beauty

    Julianne Moore  Magnolia

    David Kelly  Waking Ned Devine
    Robin Wright  She’s So Lovely

    Alison Elliot  The Wings of the Dove

    Gena Rowlands  Unhook the Stars
    Hank Azaria  The Birdcage

    Noah Taylor  Shine

    Marisa Tomei  Unhook the Stars

    Gwen Verdon  Marvin’s Room

    James Earl Jones  Cry, the Beloved Country

    Kenneth Branagh  Othello

    Don Cheadle  Devil in a Blue Dress

    Stockard Channing  Smoke

    Tim Robbins  The Shawshank Redemption

    Meg Ryan  When a Man Loves a Woman

    Hmm… 
     

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    Damiansport1
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    So yeah. Chances that Silverman and/or Mirren will get in are really small.

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    The fact that Rampling infact ISN’t nominated for anything, but BFCA makes the “she’s stronger than Mirren or Silverman” argument very weak. People predict and suggest Mirren & Silverman because SAG is a better precursor tha BFCA. Let’s face the facts, Rampling has even missed the BAFTA where she was a very good bet. Her film made the cut for Best British Film, but she had no support.

    I would say Rampling is 8th in the race after Ronan, Brie, Blanchett, Jennifer, Silverman, Maggie and Mirren. 

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    Rooney Moore
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    @Eddy What separates Silverman’s odds from that group, and makes her case closer to Damien Bichir is though, that she is neither a respected film actor that could get in off by name recognition, like Don Cheadle, Cloris Leachman or James Earl Jones nor that she was in a popular movie that got nominated in other categories like Armie Hammer, Noah Taylor, Diane Kruger or Hank Azaria.
    So how did she got nominated in the first place? I know she’s made some Q&A’s with voters and all, but still.

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