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    #149547

    Arguably two of the best foreign language film contenders.
    Which one do you prefer?

    I’ve been going back and forth,both films are simply magnificant,imo. 

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    dinasztie
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    I’d say The Lives of Others, but Pan’s Labyrinth is one of my favorites as well. 

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    Icky
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    ‘Pan’s. Both were in my top four of their respective years and my top twenty movies of the last decade. 

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    babypook
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    I found both of these films rather difficult to watch. Neither of them are films I think of putting into my DVD player so I can rest and relax before falling asleep.

    Ulrich Muhe is great however. So are the cast members from Fauno. That young actor Ivana Baquero is believable and steady, and the visuals are usual del Toro grandeur.

     If I have to choose between them I’ll go with my national biases and say Fauno. Lol.

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    Eddy Q
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    Put a gun to my head and I’d choose Pan’s Labyrinth, but Lives of Others is brilliant and a deserving winner. In some ways I prefer that it won because it raised its profile considerably (we wouldn’t be having this thread if Pan had won), and Pan does have 3 Oscars, one of which I regret to say was slightly undeserved (best cinematography should’ve gone to Chivo for Children of Men). I think both films are better than the BP winner that year, The Departed.

    Interesting trivia: Ulrich Mühe, lead actor of Lives of Others, was originally cast as the pastor in Haneke’s Oscar-nominated The White Ribbon, but his untimely death led to Burghart Klaußner to be cast instead.

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    delerian
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    I’d say Pan’s Labyrinth. It is one of the greatest fantasy films of all time, up there with The Wizard of Oz and the Lord of the Rings, IMHO. I also consider it, along with Sprited Away, to be the best film of the 2000-2010 decade.

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    Atypical
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    Easy choice for me with “The Lives of Others.” Very glad it won Foreign Language Film over “Pan’s Labyrinth.” Ulrich Mühe’s performance was excellent here and continues to impress me. He would have made a worthy Best Actor nominee that year. Tragic that he died at his relatively young age.

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    Hamilton Bacon
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    The Lives of Others. Wonderfully understated, and ultimately rewarding.
    Pan’s was just ok for me, and came across as self-indulgent. 
     

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    Pan’s, and it’s not even close.

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    ‘Pan’s Labyrinth’. It was one of my favorites of the year, and of the decade. Terrific film with brilliant visuals, great performances, and a simple yet very effective narrative.

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    Without a doubt, PAN’S.

    LIVES is a perfectly fine film, but the power is largely in the story being told and not, I would argue, *how* it is told.  As drama, it’s quite good, but as cinema, it is nothing special (though obviously well-acted).

    PAN’S is more original, more visionary, and more thematically complex.  To take a fantasy film and imbue it with so much emotion, visual imagination and real world relevance is a special thing indeed.  I suspect that it suffered in the Foreign Language category by older members not treating it with the same gravity because it was “pretend” vs. a film that had “important themes.”

    That’s not to diminish the skilfulness of OTHERS, but it was quite frankly the incredibly safe and predictable choice that year.  To award PAN’S 3 Oscars but withhold the top honor feels like they almost went out of their way from giving it the credit it deserved.   A shame.

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    Eddy Q
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    LIVES is a perfectly fine film, but the power is largely in the story being told and not, I would argue, *how* it is told.  As drama, it’s quite good, but as cinema, it is nothing special (though obviously well-acted).

    I find Lives of Others very cinematic, and smartly edited with the juxtaposition of the events in the house and the surveillance room. It would not be as effective as a stage drama, and owes much of its dramatic tension to filmic possibilities.

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    Malick
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    The answer is Pans Labyrinth.

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    nkb325
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    Has it ever happened any other year that a movie that got nominated for categories outside of FL, let alone multiple and let alone WINNING some has lost to a movie that wasn’t?

    I mean I believe and I’m pretty sure I’m not alone in thinking that if they had had 10 nominees back then Pan probably would’ve gotten in. It also one of my favorite films of all time so theres that haha 

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    Likewise, one of my favorites. Pan’s Labyrinth of course. 

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