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    Could Orson Welles FINALLY win an Academy Award for Best Director? I know it sounds insane, but believe it or not it actually could happen. I still don’t know if the film is a masterpiece. However, if critics and Netflix which is releasing it really get the ball rolling from its possible debut at Cannes right up until Oscar night of 2019, we might be able to see a world in which Welles’ can be called an Oscar-winning Director. He already won for Co-Writing Citizen Kane, so he’s definitely proven he can win with the voters, even though 99.9% of the voters from back then are dead today.

    http://www.indiewire.com/2018/01/paul-thomas-anderson-quentin-tarantino-rian-johnson-other-side-of-the-wind-1201919274/

    I know it makes no damn sense to stan for film without having seen it. I was making fun of people this time last year who were stanning for Call Me By Your Name without seeing it… This is a VERY special exception for me though, just because Welles has been dead for so long and the Oscars seriously owe him one not only for Kane but I would even argue for Touch of Evil. Charlton Heston playing a Mexican was bullshit, but the studio wanted him to play that role even though he was white, so it wasn’t Welles’ fault! That opening oner shot with Henry Mancini’s score was cinematic genius.

    I will have a nearly impossible time not stanning for this film every time I see it brought up just because I truly believe that Orson Welles is a brilliant enough filmmaker and storyteller to merit an Academy Award for Best Director. I will only stop stanning for The Other Side of the Wind if I actually see it and decide that it isn’t deserving. Until then, discuss, debate, and tell me what you think of this films Oscar chances next year? Netflix proved they could get a film of theirs multiple nominations with Mudbound, think about how much more success they could have with a film from a legendary director like Orson Welles!

    Below, From Left to Right: John Huston, Orson Welles, and Peter Bogdanovich on the set of “The Other Side of the Wind.”

    http://www.indiewire.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/the-other-side-of-the-wind.jpg?w=780

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    Hunter-ish
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    Wow. First time hearing about this. Would this even compete at the Oscars? Has anything like this ever happened in the past?

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    Teridax
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    Wow. First time hearing about this. Would this even compete at the Oscars? Has anything like this ever happened in the past?

    I’ve been waiting for this for about the past couple years, ever since I heard Netflix was financing the post-production of the film so that it could be released for people to experience once and for all.

    Charlie Chaplin won an Oscar for co-writing Limelight’s Score 20 years after it was first released because due to the blacklist in the 50s it wasn’t released in a movie theater in Los Angeles until 1972. That is the only kind of remotely comparable precedent I can think of. Also, Charlie Chaplin was still alive to accept his Oscar, while Welles won’t be. Him and most of the people involved have passed away. With the cast that it has of respected actors like John Huston, Edmond O’Brien, Susan Strasberg, Mercedes McCambridge, and Dennis Hopper, I could see this film being a very strong contender for a SAG Ensemble nomination, maybe even a win depending on the competition.

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    Teridax
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    Oh, I forgot to mention that Frank Marshall, the 5-time Oscar nominated producer of classic movies such as “Raiders of the Lost Ark” and “The Sixth Sense,” could finally win his first-ever Oscar for producing “The Other Side of the Wind.” That would also be pretty cool.

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    TheRedBoy
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    I’m just imagining the reactions if a man 30+ years dead wins Best Director over a nominated woman.

    Sounds like a mess.

    I can’t see the academy going for it. There seem to be a lot of voices in the industry trying to push forward, and nothing could be further from that than nominating a film that’s probably older than a substantial number of the Oscar voters themselves.

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    Teridax
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    I’m just imagining the reactions if a man 30+ years dead wins Best Director over a nominated woman.

    Sounds like a mess.

    I can’t see the academy going for it. There seem to be a lot of voices in the industry trying to push forward, and nothing could be further from that than nominating a film that’s probably older than a substantial number of the Oscar voters themselves.

    You have to be kidding me. Orson Welles isn’t just any “white man,” HE IS ORSON MOTHERF**KING WELLES. Sexism and patriarchy are irrelevant when specifically dealing with a literal once-in-a-lifetime opportunity like this. I am a feminist but… This is ORSON WELLES we are talking about.

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    Macca
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    Citizen Kane, while one of the most influential and innovative films and definitely deserved to win Picture and Director, was more boring than Boyhood. Let’s hope this is an improvement.

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    Teridax
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    Citizen Kane, while one of the most influential and innovative films and definitely deserved to win Picture and Director, was more boring than Boyhood. Let’s hope this is an improvement.

    Disagree. I found Citizen Kane thoroughly engaging in its narrative and characters. The dialogue was excellent, the music score was solid without being overdone, and the cinematography by Gregg Toland also deserved to win the Oscar because of how uncannily gorgeous that black-and-white looked with its use of shadows.

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    Macca
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    Citizen Kane, while one of the most influential and innovative films and definitely deserved to win Picture and Director, was more boring than Boyhood. Let’s hope this is an improvement.

    Disagree. I found Citizen Kane thoroughly engaging in its narrative and characters. The dialogue was excellent, the music score was solid without being overdone, and the cinematography by Gregg Toland also deserved to win the Oscar because of how uncannily gorgeous that black-and-white looked with its use of shadows.

    I agree with everything you said except for the engaging narrative and characters, I fell asleep. The dialogue was great, but what do you expect from Mankiewicz. Toland is the unsung hero and was the best DOP in the world until Freddie Young.

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    Teridax
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    @andymaccamcgaw At least we can agree Gregg Toland was robbed at the Oscars. Opinions are cool.

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    This is interesting. I’m not sure if it is eligible, but I want to see this movie so badly. It feels like a true final ode to classic Hollywood and Orson Welles can finally Rest In Peace for people seeing his Magnum Opus

    "We will always have Paris"

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    Teridax
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    This is interesting. I’m not sure if it is eligible, but I want to see this movie so badly. It feels like a true final ode to classic Hollywood and Orson Welles can finally Rest In Peace for people seeing his Magnum Opis

    With the satire of the 70s era of movies and all those up and coming “artistic” filmmakers, The Other Side of the Wind could have been the Birdman of its generation had it been finished and released during that time period. Now, it will arguably be more interesting as a time capsule perfectly capturing a moment in film history that happened decades ago. I am confident Welles will deliver, but I’m still going to try to go in with an open mind as hard as that will be.

    If Netflix is able to get it into Cannes, then they will campaign like all hell for this movie to get as much Oscar recognition as possible.

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    No, they aren’t going to give an award to a dead person who made the movie 30 years. It is insulting to the people who actually directed a film this year and deserve the win. It is not even like Orson Welles is looking after the post-production of the movie and helping with things such as editing, score, and sound which are very important parts of a film. He does not deserve to win for just shooting a film and not doing any of the other things (which the other director nominees would have done).

    So, no he does not deserve a win. Not even a nomination. Just give him an honorary award or something instead of the best director award.

     

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    Michael Norris
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    That would be awesome. So it won’t happen.

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    BenitoDelicias
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    This would be weird.

    But Chaplin did it. Although he was still alive and had not won a competitive Oscar and it happened in a “lesser” category.

    Jessica Lange is another example, she won for a 4 year old film (Blue Sky). Again, not that many years and still alive and in the lamest Oscar category ever. I doubt anybody cared.

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