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  • BigJay2012
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    Like I previously said in another thread, if the Academy was so influenced by the #oscarsowhite movement……why then didn’t they just nominate Taraji too or instead of Ruth? Taraji is the bigger star, a past nominee, in a best picture nominee, and has the performance just like Ruth does, imo.

    Clearly they liked Ruth’s performance more than Amy and Taraji’s and Ruth has received other nominations…..so why then does her nomination have to be mainly from a result of something other than merit?

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    Nonwhite nominees are always treated with suspicion. I don’t argue with those who always happen to undervalue their work. Better to accept they’re not interested in seeing them happen with nominations and potential wins. Ruth Negga’s nod was not guaranteed so it was especially refreshing to see her there.

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    Julia Spencer
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    I dont understand that claim. Ruth Negga was in conversation all season long. She was nominated for several precoursers and won some critics awards. She also was nominated for the Gold Globe, Critics Choics and Bafta Rising Star Award. She had major buzz comming out of Cannes, where several citics thought she would win an award there.

    The same with Octavia Spencer. She didnt get in because she is black, but she is very liked and has won before (I personally would have prefered Janelle Monae).

    I do think #OscarSoWhite made voters more aware of the issue of watching movies made and starring african-americans and so they might actually watched the screeners this year, but Idris Elba and Michael B. Jordan were the only two african-american actors, who had really a shot last year (very nominated at the critics awards).

    Its funny though, that nobody talks about the inclusion of Michael Shannon in that way. I doubt he got in, because he is white but rather the voters really liked the performence.

    If #OscarSoWhite can give us a more diverse group of interesting performences by all kind of nominees, I dont see whats wrong about that. As long as the voters dont feel obliged to vote for people based on their skin-color, gender or sexual orientation. But like Charles said in the slug-fest, this year Amy Adams didnt get in, because we have an “embarrassment of riches” in so many categories and that is a good thing.

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    ETPhoneHome
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    the only thing that Oscarsowhite did was get that screener from their hands to their screen. A film that might not have been a must watch probably became one, and remember that only one of the Best Actress nominees is in a best picture nominee where it is the opposite with Best Actor. That happens basically every year. And it wasn’t so long ago that Loving was considered to have a shot in more categories, even Picture. So let’s just drop this subject now and enjoy the nominations.

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    Eddy Q
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    Regardless of the quality of Negga’s performance (I haven’t seen it yet), it’s not inconceivable that she was partly helped by #OscarsSoWhite because her nomination is quite a statistical anomaly. Despite being Irish, she missed at BAFTA in favour of American Amy Adams, and also missed at SAG despite being in a relatively accessible awards-type film. As this was the year that was meant to end #OscarsSoWhite, I can imagine voters feeling awkward about an all-white lead actress lineup when it’s the dearth of leading roles for black women in particular for which the industry has faced criticism. And it seems like Henson might never have been a real contender, despite the popularity of Hidden Figures, so Negga was the one leading female of colour in contention. Of course this isn’t the only reason for her nomination, but it could be a factor.

    Interestingly, Negga’s televised awards run is identical to Keira Knightley’s in 2005-6; nominated for Critics Choice and Golden Globe, snubbed at SAG and BAFTA (the latter surprised many in Knightley’s case) but finally going on to an Oscar nomination. I think Knightley was ultimately helped by the controversy surrounding Zhang Ziyi’s casting in Memoirs of a Geisha, her being a Chinese actor in a quintessentially Japanese role.

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    Andrew Carden
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    Henson simply never caught traction at all. Negga, at least, had the Globe nomination and was in pundits’ Lead Actress top 10s for virtually the entire awards season.

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    vinny
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    I feel bad for Negga. She deserved a nomination and has been in the conversation for a long time. Now, she has to deal with this crap. Just seems to take the fun out of it all I’d imagine.

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    I feel bad for Negga. She deserved a nomination and has been in the conversation for a long time. Now, she has to deal with this crap. Just seems to take the fun out of it all I’d imagine.

    We’re a bunch of nobodies online. Doubtful the industry sees her as a token. Her movie played Cannes and there was speculation she could win Best Actress there. No different than Huppert with Elle at Cannes this year. That jury completely botch the whole thing for the pundits and critics who were there for their shit going nowhere fast choices.

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    Grégory Leblanc-Delisle
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    After seeing Loving I’m now convincing that Negga was nominated only because they wanted a black person in every acting category. That’s it. Her performance was boring and actually not good. Everybody could have play her role.

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    After seeing Loving I’m now convincing that Negga was nominated only because they wanted a black person in every acting category. That’s it. Her performance was boring and actually not good. Everybody could have play her role.

    Her performance was what needed for the character. Now the movie itself is a dull watch hence it getting no traction elsewhere aside from Negga.

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    mafro987
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    I feel bad for Negga. She deserved a nomination and has been in the conversation for a long time. Now, she has to deal with this crap. Just seems to take the fun out of it all I’d imagine.

    She doesn’t care. She was just nominated for an Oscar- don’t feel bad for her. Do you think she’s honestly worried about what some Amy Adams online fanboys or the ‘anti-pc’ crowd say. I doubt she even knows there’s backlash.

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    Amy Adams is so overrated and wooden.

    I’m glad AMPAS is over that woman.

    It’s such a shame that ‘Black Twitter’ complained so much the last two years. Now that POC are finally getting the recognition, it looks like to some people that AMPAS caved in to some type of quota. It’s like an answer to the #Oscarsowhite” thing. I’m not shocked because a lot of people admittedly voted for Trump because they’re tired of political correctness.

    But oh well. Ruth Negga got her nomination and Adams didn’t. Poor that.

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    Zooey the Dreamer
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    Regardless of the quality of Negga’s performance (I haven’t seen it yet), it’s not inconceivable that she was partly helped by #OscarsSoWhite because her nomination is quite a statistical anomaly. Despite being Irish, she missed at BAFTA in favour of American Amy Adams, and also missed at SAG despite being in a relatively accessible awards-type film. As this was the year that was meant to end #OscarsSoWhite, I can imagine voters feeling awkward about an all-white lead actress lineup when it’s the dearth of leading roles for black women in particular for which the industry has faced criticism. And it seems like Henson might never have been a real contender, despite the popularity of Hidden Figures, so Negga was the one leading female of colour in contention. Of course this isn’t the only reason for her nomination, but it could be a factor.

    Interestingly, Negga’s televised awards run is identical to Keira Knightley’s in 2005-6; nominated for Critics Choice and Golden Globe, snubbed at SAG and BAFTA (the latter surprised many in Knightley’s case) but finally going on to an Oscar nomination. I think Knightley was ultimately helped by the controversy surrounding Zhang Ziyi’s casting in Memoirs of a Geisha, her being a Chinese actor in a quintessentially Japanese role.

    I disagree. It happens all the time that BAFTA snubs some of their own. They snubbed Rampling last year and she still got nominated. But why I disagree that last year’s white Oscars influenced Negga’s nomination that much is because of how Oscar nominations are voted.

    Ruth Negga needed first placements to get nominated. And nobody who votes for an actress just out of embarrassment that the category would be totally white otherwise, would have put her first. Nope, maybe some people would have put her fourth or fifth, but people usually put performances they love first.

    On the other hand, I believe that Amy Adams came up short because she lacked passion. She probably got plenty of votes, more than Negga. But she was probably ranked third to fifth on most of these ballots.

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    Sasha
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    Why do Adams stans blame Negga for her snub? Blame that fucking bitch Streep who doesn’t need 100th nomination. Streep is guilty of everything. Fuck her.

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    Right. Meryl Streep is the one taking up space. But because she’s an old white woman who speaks up against Trump she’s safe from the backlash.

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