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    Will the plagiarism accusations surrounding The Shape of Water hurt its chances at the Oscars? The similarities are hard to ignore: http://hollywoodnerd.com/did-the-shape-of-water-plagiarize-the-paul-zindel-play-let-me-hear-you-whisper/

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    Although one wishes people cared about plagiarism, I don’t think many people actually do care. I can see Del Toro being blindsided by this as the idea of a custodian working at a science lab and befriending a science experiment and wanting to free it is something that isn’t that novel of an idea in 2018. However, with all the similarities outlined and there’s no doubt that Daniel Kraus, who inspired the idea for Del Toro, is very familiar with Zindel’s work.

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    PreludeinCSharpMinor
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    if this is accurate, it should be disqualified from original screenplay for sure.

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    Michael Norris
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    I personally dislike how harsh most people are in accusing artists of plagiarism. Nothing is original anymore, and people are often so quick to accuse plagiarism based on just a few similarities. This was probably a coincidence, or at the absolute most, an unintentional influence. I don’t even want del Toro to win, but if he loses because of this, I’d be upset.

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    Riley
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    Del Toro did not plagiarize.  Works of fiction are going to have coincidental similarities.  This will not affect his chances.

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    Teridax
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    If The Shape of Water ripped off anything it clearly was the short film “The Space Between Us.”

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=3s&v=xEIpzBPUjEo

    Watch the short and decide for yourself. Heck, even the titles are similar.

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    Hinrich689
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    Maybe del Toro did plagiarize, maybe he didn’t and he was just inspired, or maybe he did not see this at all. It’s very hard to know because only a few plagiarism accusations ever come to fruition.

    It’s not like The Shape of Water (or any art form) is very original and non-derivative anyway. We are in the modern era. Nothing is innately original.

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    Gain
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    Is this topic for real?

    The crew of that Dutch short film did an AMA on reddit and this is what they said:

    Recently our film has stirred up some controversy due to the similarities with Guillermo del Toro’s oscar nominated film “The Shape of Water”. We have been in touch with him and had a constructive discussion about the inception of both our films. We reached the conclusion that there seems to be no connection between the two.

    So I guess case is closed.

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    Pulp
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    Lol, people really trying to get this to become a thing. This is a non story.

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    This thread deserves an award for its craziness. It’s really unparalleled.

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    Marcus Snowden (The Artist Formerly Known as msnowden1)
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    Maybe del Toro didn’t plagiarize and instead put some homages in the script? Darren Aronofsky did the same in Black Swan. There are some homages to Perfect Blue in the film.

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