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  • Joe Burns
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    #148078

     I actually kinda expected to like this film way back when I did a Best Actress profile of 1977. It turned out to be pretty terrible, although the beginning isn’t too bad I guess. I mean,  I understand why some Best Picture nominees   that I disike were nominated like Places In The Heart or Working Girl for instance. But this?  What was the Academy thinking? 11 nominations? 

    What do you guys think of the movie?  And do you think Bancroft should have won in suppporting? I thought she was excellent and better then the rest of the competition. Didn’t think  Redgrave was that great, even though I like the movie.   

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    babypook
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     That was an interesting year, with Annie Hall and Star Wars in the BP “race”. I liked The Turning Point, and  Shirley MacLaine can do no wrong imo.

    Leslie Browne is a wonderful dancer and it was a joy watching her as well. Watching Anne Bancroft ‘dance’ was like watching Vanessa Redgrave do the same in Isadora. But  I found that easy to overlook considering the entirety of the film.

    This isnt one of my favorite films, but I do appreciate these fwo fine women acting their wonderful heads off.

     

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    Eddy Q
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    Bancroft was nominated in lead along with MacLaine, not supporting. Both lost to Diane Keaton in Annie Hall.

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    benbraddock
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    This is one of my all-time favorite films.
    I view it as a guilty pleasure today but I am always
    astonished at the performances of Bancroft and MacLaine.
    The film was worthy of most of its 11 nominations.
    The 2 supporting performances by Browne and Mischa
    were not good choices…I suppose the actors that voted
    for them confused dancing with acting..Baryshnikov was
    laughable in his non dancing scenes..You couldnt even
    understand him and Browne was meh…Arthur Laurents
    screenplay is  loaded with backstage cliches and the
    dialogue is sappy at best….The fight scene which is
    looked upon by all actors in acting classes still holds up
    today and Bancroft and MacLaine proved to be a master
    class in acting..

    Worthy of  8 of its nominations including Picture and Director
    but on oscar night that year..I knew it would come up empty..

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    benbraddock
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    #148083

    Martha Scott and Tom Skerrit should have been the 2 supporting nominations.!!

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    JayDF
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    Not a fan of this film per se…but I do love Bancroft’s performance and MacLaine was good too & Baryshinkov’s (spelling?) dancing of course was incredible.  Someone mentioned the academy confused dancing and acting.  Despite being called acting awards, dancing and singing require emoting, so I don’t think performances should be soley based on “acting” in the traditional sense of the word.  Afterall there are no dancing oscars.  Gene Kelly’s nominated work in “Anchors Aweigh” is all about the dancing and because of it he is my favorite of that year’s nominees.

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    Pavel Romanov
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    Bancroft and MacLaine are both guite good, but the amount of nominations this film recieved was overkill. Leslie Browne is just awful, though, as wooden as any nominee ever.

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    babypook
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    This is one of my all-time favorite films.
    I view it as a guilty pleasure today but I am always
    astonished at the performances of Bancroft and MacLaine.
    The film was worthy of most of its 11 nominations.
    The 2 supporting performances by Browne and Mischa
    were not good choices…I suppose the actors that voted
    for them confused dancing with acting..Baryshnikov was
    laughable in his non dancing scenes..You couldnt even
    understand him and Browne was meh…Arthur Laurents
    screenplay is  loaded with backstage cliches and the
    dialogue is sappy at best….The fight scene which is
    looked upon by all actors in acting classes still holds up
    today and Bancroft and MacLaine proved to be a master
    class in acting..

    Worthy of  8 of its nominations including Picture and Director
    but on oscar night that year..I knew it would come up empty..

    Lol! They’re dancers fer crying out loud. Great dancers. Worth the watch imo. Seeing as how ballet is the backdrop it is great to see some actual dancing.

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    benbraddock
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    yes..agreed, but when they were NOT dancing, they were both cringeworthy….

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    Scottferguson
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    #148088

    A mediocre soap opera with by the numbers direction by the mediocre Herb Ross. Whatever modest merit it had came from the two leads, but boy, what a gay camp classic this turned into. See The Red Shoes or Black Swan instead  and see what a difference a visionary director can make with the subject matter. The film also had a misogynitic veneer that bothered me.

    It and Julia were both released limited in Dec. 1977 by Fox (who also had Star Wars that year). Had they had just one of those two films, depending on what might have replaced one of them in the BP field, either might have won. Certainly Turning Point was bad enough to have been a serious contender.

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    streepfan
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    #148089

    I still recall to this day snippet from one review: ……there’s something great going on in this film, but these two harpies get in the way (of Mischa’s dancing) Something to that effect.

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    babypook
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    I still recall to this day snippet from one review: ……there’s something great going on in this film, but these two harpies get in the way (of Mischa’s dancing) Something to that effect.

    He is and was so incredible. Do you remember Anne Bancroft (whom I truly adored btw) pretending to dance? LOL! Both primary dancers enhanced this movie imo.

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    Almost like Maggie Smith pretending to sing opera in Quartet last year…..it’s not easy. Redgrave, Bancroft anf Smith have proven so, to act like an artist/musician, you come out like a fraud. That’s why actors admired Streeps act/violin playing in Music of the Heart, actually the admiration came from renowned violinists themselves, which is the highest praise. Sorry Scottferguson.

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    Scottferguson
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    Too bad Streep was so bland in the rest of Music of the Heart. She should have paid more attention to her acting.

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    Logan
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    #148093

    We’re talking about the Vanessa Redgrave performance in Playing For Time? 

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