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  • awardskel
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    that we never got to see Gloria Stuart ascend the stage at the Oscars. Did Basinger really need to win? Yah, her film was loads better than Titanic, but she was downright awful in her part. Okay, maybe not awful, but a cliched character that better suited the likes of Lauren Bacall in the 1940s.

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    Carbon Based Lifeform
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    L.A. CONFIDENTIAL “loads better” than TITANIC?

    Talk like that is what gives drugs a bad name.

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    M H
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    Don’t you like to rely on critics to make your points for you? LA Confidential swept the critics awards over Titanic and was a much better reviewed film.

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    Scottferguson
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    In this case, in my opinion, the critics were wrong.

    They were both at least good movies though (I think Titanic is close to a masterpiece).

    Look at Metacritic – they have 12 critics who have 100 scores for Titanic. That’s more than a lot of BP winners (and fewer critics were included then). The overall sense of its critical response was that it was a divisive film – which is fine. I find often the films I like most do, at least initially, get a divided critical response.

    Also if I recall correctly Titanic was runnerup at the NYFC, so it was thought of well enough to be a critical contender.

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    In this case, in my opinion, the critics were wrong.

    But you’re not the one who holds critics up as the be-all-end-all like another poster on this thread does when it suits his hypocritical purposes. That was my point.

    Plenty of people have different opinions on both films – no problem there. Myself, I think LA Confidential is the one that is a near masterpiece. I have disagreed with the critics plenty of other times, and don’t think critical agreement means anything about my own views of a film.

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    Don’t you like to rely on critics to make your points for you? LA Confidential swept the critics awards over Titanic and was a much better reviewed film.

    If you insist. LA CONFIDENTIAL did indeed get mostly stellar reviews, just like THE SOCIAL NETWORK, another highly overrated film. Here is a review that for me sums up perfectly what is wrong with LA CONFIDENTIAL:

    L.A. Confidential understands that men don’t always respond to
    evil with good and that the question of whom society regards as heroes
    isn’t always as clear cut as it seems. But while Brian Helgeland’s
    screenplay, like so much neo-noir, seeks to expose the seedy underbelly
    of the glamour of Los Angeles in the 1950s, the film’s shiny Hollywood
    surfaces too frequently weaken its intentions. The filmmaking is
    competent and engaging but middlebrow, and Dante Spinotti’s
    cinematography is striking but too clean to achieve Chinatown-level
    subversion. And the film’s conclusion, with Bud showing up in an
    uplifting last-minute reveal, is so falsely sunny that it very nearly
    undermines the film’s up-to-that-point admirable sense of darkness and
    moral confusion.” –Matt Noller, Slant Magazine

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    [quote=”Scottferguson”]In this case, in my opinion, the critics were wrong.

    But you’re not the one who holds critics up as the be-all-end-all like another poster on this thread does when it suits his hypocritical purposes. That was my point.

    Plenty of people have different opinions on both films – no problem there. Myself, I think LA Confidential is the one that is a near masterpiece. I have disagreed with the critics plenty of other times, and don’t think critical agreement means anything about my own views of a film.[/quote]

    “But you’re not the one who holds critics up as the be-all-end-all like another poster on this thread does when it suits his hypocritical purposes. That was my point. “

     Hahahahametacritchahatherealcriticshahahaaa!

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