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    This year saw two milestones concerning those fortunate enough to be recognized by all three major acting mediums. Jessica Lange joined the ranks with a Lead Actress in a Play Tony. And Maggie Smith is the first triple crowner to amass 7 awards from the major 3.

    Viola Davis will likely follow Jessica Lange in solidifying their standing as one of the all time celebrated actors by winning the last of the major awards they don’t have. In her case, Ms Davis needs the Oscar. And my god it’ll be historic on several fronts. First outside of Rita Moreno no other person of color has managed that feat. Whoopi Goldberg only has two performance prizes: Comedy Album Grammy and Supporting Actress Oscar. Her Emmys are Daytime none performance and her Tony is for producing.

    With regards to what this means for Oscar, Davis becomes the first nonwhite actress to receive 3 nominations for acting. Becomes the first nonwhite actress to receive 2 Best Actress nominations. If she wins she’s the 3rd woman in her 50’s to win Best Actress after Shirley Booth and Julianne Moore, and the 2nd nonwhite actress to win Best Actress after Halle Berry. If her costar also wins the Best Actor category he’ll become the first nonwhite performer to join the 3 or more club for multiple acting Oscar winners.

    Of course the very real possibility she could receive nominations throughout the season and still lose to someone else. As strong as the reviews are for Portman I think someone else could disrupt her coronation for a 2nd. Too many viable contenders for their 1st.

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    I was actually thinking about this this morning. I’d love for her to get the Triple Crown, but her performance will have to come through. Since I can’t see her going Supporting, her threats are Portman and Stone, and her performance will have to be damn near perfect to win.

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    I was actually thinking about this this morning. I’d love for her to get the Triple Crown, but her performance will have to come through. Since I can’t see her going Supporting, her threats are Portman and Stone, and her performance will have to be damn near perfect to win.

    You know performance is only a formality when it comes to winning the award itself.

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    I soooo hope/want this to happen for Viola. I am very secure in the knowledge, however that if it doesn’t happen for her with Fences, it will occur, sooner than later.

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    I soooo hope/want this to happen for Viola. I am very secure in the knowledge, however that if it doesn’t happen for her with Fences, it will occur, sooner than later.

    Despite the competitiveness of her category she has momentum and enough of a name to upset.

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    She absolutely does, and I don’t think it would constitute as much of an upset either

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    Volcarocka
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    I was actually thinking about this this morning. I’d love for her to get the Triple Crown, but her performance will have to come through. Since I can’t see her going Supporting, her threats are Portman and Stone, and her performance will have to be damn near perfect to win.

    You know performance is only a formality when it comes to winning the award itself.

    I tend to disagree with these kinds of remarks. Time and time again we see breakout/1st-time nominees winning over more “respected” nominees. I tend to think the “performance doesn’t matter, campaign and momentum do” argument stems from people disagreeing with the chosen winners (which is perfectly okay), and not accepting that the voters’ opinions were different from theirs.

    Campaign and momentum do matter, certainly. But the performance has to be there too.

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    I tend to disagree with these kinds of remarks. Time and time again we see breakout/1st-time nominees winning over more “respected” nominees. I tend to think the “performance doesn’t matter, campaign and momentum do” argument stems from people disagreeing with the chosen winners (which is perfectly okay), and not accepting that the voters’ opinions were different from theirs.

    Campaign and momentum do matter, certainly. But the performance has to be there too.

    Nominees and winners are there partially because of their performance not solely. I wish the Academy were a real meritocracy but we know people vote for their friends and sometimes vote based on campaigns when they’re not that invested in who wins certain categories. This isn’t mythology based on resentment. It’s a cold reality many awards fans rather ignore because it ruins the joy of watching good work receive recognition via nominations and then lose clearly for political reasons or to boost the profile of an emerging movie star.

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    I understand that some people don’t agree with me. And I know it’s not solely based on the performances, even though it should be. And, just like in every election or vote, there are voters who vote without thought or educated insight. But even though there have been many winners I have disagreed with, there has very rarely been a winner that I didn’t understand how other people and voters might have preferred their performance.

    Campaigns are important. But if the performances don’t back them up, there’s nothing there.

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    I understand that some people don’t agree with me. And I know it’s not solely based on the performances, even though it should be. And, just like in every election or vote, there are voters who vote without thought or educated insight. But even though there have been many winners I have disagreed with, there has very rarely been a winner that I didn’t understand how other people and voters might have preferred their performance.

    Campaigns are important. But if the performances don’t back them up, there’s nothing there.

    I can think of a few famous examples where Academy voters have awarded an acting Oscar for other considerations when the performance is marginal at best.

    Bette Davis won for a mediocre performance in 1935 for Dangerous. Voters were irritated that studio politics denied Davis a nomination the previous year for sensational work in Of Human Bondage. Even Davis publicly admitted Katharine Hepburn should have won.

    Walter Brennan won three Oscars within a five year span in the 1930s. He had risen to prominence from the body of film extras. Those Academy members voted for him repeatedly to make a political statement about their work. The Academy removed extras from the membership in response.

    Olivia de Havilland fought and won a lengthy and expensive lawsuit to break the studio’s choke hold on seven year contracts which resulted in suspensions and insufficient pay for stars. Her first film after the victory was To Each His Own in 1946. She won Best Actress as a tribute for her efforts.

    In 1960, Elizabeth Taylor starred in BUtterfield 8 playing Gloria, a prostitute. She agreed to film the movie to complete a contractual obligation and be free to accept a million dollar paycheck for Cleopatra. Prior to the Oscars, Taylor suffered a life threatening illness. She won the Oscar in a sympathy vote. The result of the vote was so transparent that three nominees didn’t bother to attend. Shirley MacLaine who lost Best Actress for The Apartment was quoted as saying she lost her Oscar to a tracheotomy. Taylor accepted her award in a revealing gown that showed the television audience the scar on her neck and expressed her thanks in a whisper. Famously, she later remarked when asked about the film that she admitted she never bothered to see it, because “I still think it stinks.”

    IMHO, the worst performance to ever receive an Oscar was a hammy Al Pacino in Scent of a Woman, a decision that defines presenting a lifetime achievement award in an effort to make up for the failure to recognize earlier good work.

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    Yes, there certainly are winners less deserving than others, and with other factors (like illness) that are considered, especially in the 30s-60s. I’m not saying every single decision ever made was completely unbiased and based on performance, because nothing is perfect. I’m just saying this “performance is only a formality” thing is not particularly true.

    For the record, I loved Al Pacino in Scent of a Woman. Personally, I wouldn’t have given the Oscar to any of the other nominees in that category over his performance.

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    For the record, I loved Al Pacino in Scent of a Woman. Personally, I wouldn’t have given the Oscar to any of the other nominees in that category over his performance.

    Have you seen Malcolm X?

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    More to the point have you seen Scent of a Woman???

    It’s an absolute embarassment. Easily the worst Best Actor win in history.

    5th out of 5, Anyone of the others would have made a better winner.

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    Volcarocka
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    Yeah, I know, it’s not a popular opinion. But I honestly would have given it to him for that. (Movie itself wasn’t great. But fantastic performance imo)

    Hopefully, if Viola wins, her performance will be more popular than that.

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    Well Stalone did lose to Rylance last year, so maybe campaigns themselves really aren’t enough without the performance backing it up.

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