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  • FreemanGriffin
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    I have been touting these two films for the last few months. These are the two films I believe could upset the apple cart on Oscar nominations morning.

    From the moment I saw the trailer for Creed I felt that it was going to be highly regarded and a real contender. I can never remember the director’s name but he directed the terrific debut movie Fruitvale Station a few years ago and is an extremely gifted film director. Michael B. Jordan, Sylvestor Stallone and Phylicia Rashad have all been under the radar possibilities for Best Actor, Best Supporting Actor, and Best Supporting Actress. (The problem, of course, is who would they replace?)

    As for In the Heart of the Sea: I saw footage of the movie and it’s making on a local television show several months ago and have felt that it is an Oscar-type movie. Ron Howard is the director. It’s a cinematic “movie” set in the past (as opposed to many modern films that feel to me more like made for television movies, lacking in a feeling that you need to see them on a big movie screen with others).

    So, in order for them to get nominations, there would need to be others that don’t meet expectations. I will get a lot of flak, i’m sure, but I will suggest the two films that I think are being overestimated: The Hateful Eight – it will be well liked but I believe it will be in 11th or 12th place in the Oscar balloting; it’s best chance at a nomination is Jennifer Jason Leigh in the Supporting Actress category.

    The other film I’m sure I will have raised a ruckus saying this: Joy. I base this solely on my extremely negative reaction to its trailer. It came across (at least for me) as nasty, brutal and unkind. I’ve been increasingly thinking Jennifer Lawrence is not going to make the cut in such a crowded field. I could be wrong about this, but I see other actresses getting more traction with academy members, such as Saoirse Ronan, Charlotte Rampling, Maggie Smith, Rooney Mara (I still believe she will wind up in lead actress), and of course, Brie Larson, with Cate Blanchett, Blythe Danner, Lily Tomlin, and Julia Roberts all having outside chances. I think the 3 actors who have supporting roles might even cancel each other out: Robert De Niro, Bradley Cooper, and Edgar Ramirez. It’s best chance is perhaps Diane Ladd, but the Supporting Actress category is loaded with great performances, and we still don’t quite know what they are going to with Rooney Mara and Alicia Vikander, who might get moved up to Lead Actress.

    I do believe that In the Heart of the Sea will do very well in the technical categories and has a chance to make it into the top ten for Best Picture. I don’t think Ron Howard will get one of the five Best Director slots, and I don’t see any acting performances making it in to the acting categories.

    I knew Creed was going to get really good to great reviews.

    All of this is subject to change, of course, as movies open up and we get the reviews and our own judgments on the movies too! 

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    KyleBailey
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    I have been touting these two films for the last few months. These are the two films I believe could upset the apple cart on Oscar nominations morning.

    From the moment I saw the trailer for Creed I felt that it was going to be highly regarded and a real contender. I can never remember the director’s name but he directed the terrific debut movie Fruitvale Station a few years ago and is an extremely gifted film director. Michael B. Jordan, Sylvestor Stallone and Phylicia Rashad have all been under the radar possibilities for Best Actor, Best Supporting Actor, and Best Supporting Actress. (The problem, of course, is who would they replace?)

    She’s in the movie for like a total on 7 minutes and half of that is her shouting “go baby” at a TV while drinking wine.  

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    [quote=”FreemanGriffin”]I have been touting these two films for the last few months. These are the two films I believe could upset the apple cart on Oscar nominations morning.

    From the moment I saw the trailer for Creed I felt that it was going to be highly regarded and a real contender. I can never remember the director’s name but he directed the terrific debut movie Fruitvale Station a few years ago and is an extremely gifted film director. Michael B. Jordan, Sylvestor Stallone and Phylicia Rashad have all been under the radar possibilities for Best Actor, Best Supporting Actor, and Best Supporting Actress. (The problem, of course, is who would they replace?)

    She’s in the movie for like a total on 7 minutes and half of that is her shouting “go baby” at a TV while drinking wine.  

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    Tessa Thompson is the only viable female character in the film. 

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    M H
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    Tessa Thompson is the only viable female character in the film. 

    I would love to see her get some attention. I thought she was fantastic in “Dear White People” and would have been worthy of a nomination.  

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    OnTheAisle
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    [quote=”FreemanGriffin”]I have been touting these two films for the last few months. These are the two films I believe could upset the apple cart on Oscar nominations morning.

    From the moment I saw the trailer for Creed I felt that it was going to be highly regarded and a real contender. I can never remember the director’s name but he directed the terrific debut movie Fruitvale Station a few years ago and is an extremely gifted film director. Michael B. Jordan, Sylvestor Stallone and Phylicia Rashad have all been under the radar possibilities for Best Actor, Best Supporting Actor, and Best Supporting Actress. (The problem, of course, is who would they replace?)

    She’s in the movie for like a total on 7 minutes and half of that is her shouting “go baby” at a TV while drinking wine.  

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    Don’t forget that Best Supporting Actress nomination for Ruby Dee in American Gangster. She got in with limited screen time, more in recognition of her lifetime contribution. Considering the stress Phylicia Rashad has endured this year, a nomination would not be shocking.

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    Tyler The Awesome Guy
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    I have been campaigning In the Heart of the Sea for the longest time. I hope it pays off.

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    benbraddock
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    Both films look like crap.
    The Ron Howard film might garner an editing and sound nomination.
    Anything with Stallone will get NO traction….too bad for the others
    who might be good…

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    Macbeth
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    For what? The Razzies?

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    K-Hole
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    First of all, Phylicia Rashad will have to scrub that Bill “Ruffie” Cosby taint off of herself.

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    24Emmy
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    For what? The Razzies?

    How is Creed a Razzie contender? It’s in the 70s on Metacritic. This should and hopefully will become WB’s main push.

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    FreemanGriffin
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    Creed is at 86% on Rotten Tomatoes and 7.9 on IMDB. Not sure what it’s current Metacritic score is (I think it’s 79?), but these numbers are comparable to last year’s Oscar winner before it was generally released. (Birdman always had much lower numbers than Boyhood last year throughout the Oscar season). The reviews are strong for Jordan, Stallone, Ryan Coogler’s direction, and for its screenplay and mostly strong for the movie itself (the usual problem with critics worrying too much about how they are being perceived, rather than reviewing the actual film they have just seen). I think this film will be a big hit and has a chance at some major Oscar nominations – depending largely on what happens with some upcoming films that haven’t come out yet. I’m not saying Creed will win any Oscars, only that I think it is a strong contender for some major nominations and is lower than it ought to be here on Gold Derby.

     

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    Macbeth
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    [quote=”EmmyFan123″]For what? The Razzies?

    How is Creed a Razzie contender? It’s in the 70s on Metacritic. This should and hopefully will become WB’s main push.

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    I was referring more to In the Heart of the Sea which I know will not do well, and while I am looking forward to Creed, I wouldn’t hold my breath too much, honestly.  

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