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  • Tom O’Neil
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    Apparently, the backlash to their earlier news about Meryl in supporting was too much to handle – READ MORE

    http://www.goldderby.com/news/4730/meryl-streep-toronto-film-festival-entertainment-news-718293526.html

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    Tye-Grr
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    Shocking!!!!!!!!

    ….said no one ever.  

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    Scottferguson
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    Now watch her not even get nominated (she’s unseen, two seen seem very likely, another competitive, several others yet to be seen).

    Like all contenders, she’ll need a lot of #1 votes – maybe it will be more of a struggle than expected.

    We’ll know better in about a week when the film is seen.

    (For the record, if predicting, and if she is pushed lead, I’d put her in, but behind Blanchett and Bullock in terms of likelihood at this point).

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    dude93
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    Well she has no shot in hell at winning lead… Too soon and not a strong enough role. She will walk away with a fourth Oscar in supporting.

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    Scottferguson
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    I was sort of looking forward to seeing June Squibb beat Streep and Winfrey and see heads explode around here and elsewhere.

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    black30
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    This is good news for Oprah. None of the potential bitches in her category have a fighting chance in hell except Amy Adams. Adams wants to compete with the big girls this year in Best Actress, good luck sweetie, and just remember Glenn Close and Annette Bening. 

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    Scottferguson
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    I think the talk about Winfrey’s strength here is way overstated. She is going to be competitive, for sure. But she is not remotely close to a lock.

    The LATimes had a big article about her yesterday, and said her Oscar chances (apart from subjective judgments of members) could be influenced by the “Spielberg” factor – the idea that someone already has had so much in life (and Oscars – remember that she already has one) that many will look elsewhere, irrespective of how heavyweight that person might be. They quoted (off the record) some members saying that,

    And then the question is – if she weren’t famous, would the performance be considered that automatically worthy of a win? I thought she was decent or better. But an Oscar-winning level performamnce? It didn’t scream that to me.

    Again, she’s going to be competitive. But any number of candidates, known or unknown at this point, famous or not, could in my opinion easily win.

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    black30
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    I think the talk about Winfrey’s strength here is way overstated. She is going to be competitive, for sure. But she is not remotely close to a lock.

    The LATimes had a big article about her yesterday, and said her Oscar chances (apart from subjective judgments of members) could be influenced by the “Spielberg” factor – the idea that someone already has had so much in life (and Oscars – remember that she already has one) that many will look elsewhere, irrespective of how heavyweight that person might be. They quoted (off the record) some members saying that,

    And then the question is – if she weren’t famous, would the performance be considered that automatically worthy of a win? I thought she was decent or better. But an Oscar-winning level performamnce? It didn’t scream that to me.

    Again, she’s going to be competitive. But any number of candidates, known or unknown at this point, famous or not, could in my opinion easily win.

    I know you value Honorary prizes as the real thing but they don’t make the competitive record books for one to be called a winner. You’re merely a recipient of recognition by a smaller voting body. 

    As for those in the Academy not wanting her to have a competitive statuette alongside her honorary one–true enough she can still lose but it’ll reflect badly on the Academy if she wins everything but the Oscar. Also, if BAFTA goes in another direction, but then again they broke for the unworthy Octavia Spencer. 

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    Atypical
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    Good. If this adaptation is anything like the play, then Streep belongs in lead.

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    Scottferguson
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    If anyone sweeps all awards, she wins.

    But I doubt Winfrey will win any significant critics’ group awards (Broadcast Critics is mainly non-critics). GGs love celebrities, SAG gives an edge to fame I guess, BAFTA could favor Hawkins.

    And for most Academy members, which is what counts, Winfrey won an Oscar. She physically possesses one that she won. And it is how Academy members regard it that matters, even if for reasonable issues people here don’t think it’s the same thing. My guess is her fame hurts as much as helps her. I don’t think there will be any sort of feeling among Academy members that there is any particularly strong reason she needs to have one, and frankly that would be close to the same even if she hadn’t already won one.

    This debate will go on for months. I just want to caution people that IMO this is a wide open category, Winfrey for me is a likely nominee, but is just one of several people who stand a good chance of winning. Streep being out if that happens could help her, but it hardly for me makes her a decisive front runner.

    Remember Eddie Murphy – he won SAG, GG, BC and lost to Alan Arkin.

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    black30
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    Arkin won BAFTA. 

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    Scottferguson
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    I just expect a lot of different women are going to win precursors, and Winfrey is best situated where her celebrity aids her. For myself, I want to see how this all plays out. I can easily see Winfrey, for all the quality of her performance, fading as time goes by and being at her high water mark right now.

    And the worst message to send to Academy members is to suggest this is “her” Oscar and that for her not to win is some sort of personal affront towards her. It’s not a transcendent performance, and she doesn’t have the list of credits in acting for a career award. She’d be a much better winner for me than last year’s ridiculous choice, but I suspect their will be equally worthy or better performances to come (among seen, I think Hawkins is better).

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    With Blanchett and Bullock seeming like forces to be reckoned with and Winslet looking likely, I fear Julia Roberts may have just lost her potential nomination. Thompson and Dench will have to fall (which may not be unlikely based on the former’s trailer and the supposed reaction to the latter) for Roberts to be able to get in with Streep back in this race. 

    There is also the foreign contingent – Adele Exarchopoulos and Berenice Bejo are strong contenders as well.

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    I just expect a lot of different women are going to win precursors, and Winfrey is best situated where her celebrity aids her. For myself, I want to see how this all plays out. I can easily see Winfrey, for all the quality of her performance, fading as time goes by and being at her high water mark right now.

    And the worst message to send to Academy members is to suggest this is “her” Oscar and that for her not to win is some sort of personal affront towards her. It’s not a transcendent performance, and she doesn’t have the list of credits in acting for a career award. She’d be a much better winner for me than last year’s ridiculous choice, but I suspect their will be equally worthy or better performances to come (among seen, I think Hawkins is better).

    What do you dislike about Hathaway’s win?

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    Scottferguson
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    I had a screener, and replayed it multiple times. Each time it got worse. For me it is a camp classic, one of the most unintentionally funny acting jobs of all time, although most of all cringe-inducing. The live singing made it worse. She’s a talented actress, but for me it is possibly the single worst performance to ever win an Oscar.

    Beware of performances that people think are winners from the trailer.

    The award is for best acting, not most acting.

    It’s Tom Hooper I blame, not Hathaway, Obviously they have the last laugh for now, but in future years I think this performance is going to be widely ridiculed and satirized.

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