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  • BrokenFan
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    #79436

    We always complained that the Oscars usually always pick the “wrong” winner? But are there any moments you think that they get it right? Share, share.  

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    Pretty much never. Once in a while, the best film of the year will actually win Best Picture, but hardly ever. It’s mostly 1 category a year that gets it right. Usually screenplay is spot on.

    However, it’s all opinion and subjective, so who really is to say? IMO, this year The Master should win Picture, Director, Actor, Supporting Actor, Supporting Actress, Cinematography, Production Design, and Score, but that’s just me, as well as nods for sceenplay, editing.
      

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    babypook
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    These guys need to separate themselves from the CRITICS, who collectively have far too much sway and influence on what we ‘should’ and ‘shouldnt’ be watching. Some campaigns are far more $ucce$$ful than others, and the actors and crews themselves can or wont support their own films/work/allegiances.

    This likely wont change much, or it would be a long, slow, arduous process, to wean the ‘selectors’ away from the freaking CRITICS, as long as there are those who get hard-ons from watching and reading them, worship at their shrines, and fail to recognize that they are people whose tastes arent any better than ours, and have their share of biases, or exquisite tastes, or nutbarishnesses.

    So do they get it right? Hardly ever for me, but certainly for some, O yes. Besides, it’s never been about what is right or wrong, but about what kind of show it puts on, and how the contenders can profit and benefit from them.

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    Scottferguson
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    I watched the Oscars from 1964-1991 (first few years of course hadn’t seen all the nominees) without ever having what I thought was the best English language film of the year win BP. Usually I didn’t think even limiting just to the nominated films the best choice (often least-bad) won. And retroactively, Sunrise’s co-win the first year was the only time I agreed with for best film, period.

    Then something unexpected happened – Unforgiven won in 1992. And then Titanic in 1997, then Million Dollar Baby, then The Hurt Locker – 4 times in 18 years, completely unexpected.

    They have reverted to form, and suspect that will continue.

    For other categories, if a deserving person wins at some point over his or her career in any category, I’m happy. Usually when the “best” people win, it’s for the wrong film, but at least if they’ve gotten one it’s usually cool with me.       

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    Scottferguson
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    Without critics, most of the films (at least in the last 30-40 years) that most of us love would never have been made and that includes The King’s Speech, Cloud Atlas, The Tree of Life to name just a few. Terence Malick would never have made a film had there been no critics around.

    It a world without critics, Michael Bay would be king. 

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    Marcus Snowden (The Artist Formerly Known as msnowden1)
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    Lincoln or Zero Dark Thirty is going to win the majority of the awards this year.

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    Scottferguson
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    Actually, were I to guess now, I think it’s going to be a very divided Oscars

    Lincoln – picture, likely actor, maybe one supporting, maybe director, screenplay, 1 or 2 techs – I’d say 5 or 6

    ZD30 – maybe actress, maybe director, likely screenplay, 3-4 techs     – I’d say 5

    Les Mis – supp actress, then 2-3 techs – so maybe 4

    that would be a fairly even year with no film totally dominating

    just a guess, it’s still early         

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    babypook
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    I feel compelled to add, that tired critic-off between MC and RT is very funny.

    MC= real critics. Penis size swells proportionately.
    RT= Use this if you wish, but they are a collection of unprofessional boobs and youre doing yourself a ‘disservice’ by even glancing at them.
    Audience Score Cards= clearly the audience is stoopid, but it may be useful as a box-office guessing game.

    If they changed the title, Critic, to Siphon, now that would be a step forward and leave the door open a crack for creative film making.

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    They got it more right in the 90’s than of late (BP):

    1990: Dances With Wolves
    1994: Forrest Gump
    1997: Titanic
    2000: Gladiator
    2003: LOTR: Return of the King 

    But since 2007, it’s been, to paraphrase N.W.A., straight outta off the reservation:
    2007: No Country for Old Men (shoulda been Juno)
    2008: Slumdog Millionaire (should’ve been The Dark Knight)
    2009: The Hurt Locker (should’ve been: Avatar)
    2010: The King’s Speech (should’ve been The Social Network or Inception) 
    2011: The Artist (should’ve been ANYTHING but this ;-), but to narrow it down, Moneyball) 
    2012:  ??

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    2011: The Artist (should’ve been anything but this ;-), but to narrow it down, Moneyball)

    Moneyball? Really? Pitt was so much better in The Tree of Life. Instead, we were treated to two hours of Brad Pitt smirking, snapping his gum, firing people, and maintaining a straight face while listening to his daughter’s angst-ridden songs.

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    Carbon Based Lifeform
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    I feel compelled to add, that tired critic-off between MC and RT is very funny.

    MC= real critics. Penis size swells proportionately.
    RT= Use this if you wish, but they are a collection of unprofessional boobs and youre doing yourself a ‘disservice’ by even glancing at them.
    Audience Score Cards= clearly the audience is stoopid, but it may be useful as a box-office guessing game.

    If they changed the title, Critic, to Siphon, now that would be a step forward and leave the door open a crack for creative film making.

    Really great post, pook–one of your best, and that makes it the “Hope Diamond” in a jewelry box full of gems!

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    babypook
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    Let’s not forget Jonah Hill, who actually washed and cut his hair, scrubbed his face, and wore a baseball jacket. Did the ‘critics’ like him? If they liked him, he must have been great.  Ya; I’m not quite done bashing the influence given to ‘critics’. Lol.

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    Audience score card = Cinemascore

    Cinemascore for Cloud Atlas – C+  

    Some other recent Cinemascores –  Alex Cross – A, Here Comes the Boom – A , Breaking Dawn Pt 2 – A,

    Yes, let’s replace Metacritic with Cinemascore – even better, let their voters choose the Oscars 

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    Understand, IMO, 2011 was one of the worse years for movies in a while, so my pick of Moneyball would merely represent the best of a bad lot that year.

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    I have to agree with SF on Sunrise….it was one of the only true masterpieces to win Best Picture, though I do think there are a few more films I personally considered my favorites of their respective years.

    From 1960:
    1977: Annie Hall 
    1980: Ordinary People
    1984: Amadeus
    1991: The Silence of the Lambs
    1993: Schindler’s List (this one is debatable, I need to see it again…but as I have gotten older, I have become more drawn to The Piano)
             
    There were a few other winners that I did like that deserved it among the nominees but my personal favorites weren’t nominated, but it is definitely subjective 

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