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  • True Tenor
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    I know that this is a discussion that seems to come up almost every year, but I think it is worth discussion again. Where is the diversity amongst the actors this awards season. Outside of Denzel Washington, there are no actors and actresses of color who seem in position to grab a nod. 

    And this year there are actually great quality performances from actors who are not white. Quvenzhané Wallis and Dwight Henry are prime examples for Beasts of the Southern Wild. And why no love for Django Unchained’s Jamie Foxx, Samuel Jackson, and Kerry Washington. And while her performances is brief, Lincoln’s Gloria Reuban also delvers a heartfelt performance. Irrfan Khan and Suraj Sharmaalso perform superbly in Life of Pi.  
     
    Ava DuVernay‘s Middle of Nowhere also deserves special mention for its direction and performances. Viola Davis performs admirably as well in Won’t Back Down. 

    While I am not saying that the academy should go all affirtmative action and go out of their way to stuff the ballots with  non-caucasion nominees–but they should at least take the time to consider them. 

    Even on the TV side of things, the Globes only nomineted Don Cheadle, Sofia Vergara, and Archie Panjabi. The cast of Steel Magnolias most certainly deserved special mention. 

    Please share your thoughts (thoughtfully and respectfully). 

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    Max 2.0
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    I agree! But I think one of the main reasons for the lack of diversity (re: award season nominees) is the lack of good roles for non-Caucasian people. Like, besides Gloria (Modern Family) can someone name another Latin character in Primetime TV? From the top of my head Santana (Glee) and that is it! I mean, c’mon on! Lol, and if there is one, it is pretty much filled with wrong stereotypes. Btw, I don’t know if the connotation of the word “Caucasian” may be offensive to some, so if it is, I apologize.

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    BrokenFan
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    In general context, regardless of the color of the person’s skin, if they didn’t give a worthy performance, they shouldn’t be nominated. “Diversity” or race for that matter shouldn’t be a factor. Simple as that. 

    Having said that, most of the films you mentioned have various factors that hinder them from being big players during the season, especially in this stacked year. Most of the major categories are filled with films that either have better material, better ensemble, better tech, better writing, better director, etc. 

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    Max 2.0
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    ^ Yep, but again with my point: the main reason is for the lack of baity roles for minorities. They always have to get sidekick part or just a minor character or foil, and if they are “lucky” if they get to say a couple of sassy lines and act bitchy.

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    Carbon Based Lifeform
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    Any potentially nominated films with gay themes this year? Or actors who play gay characters?

    At least last year Glenn Close, Janet McTeer, and Christopher Plummer all played gay characters and got nominated — Plummer even won!

    This year though it’s back to the closet and invisible again.

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    babypook
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    In general context, regardless of the color of the person’s skin, if they didn’t give a worthy performance, they shouldn’t be nominated. “Diversity” or race for that matter shouldn’t be a factor. Simple as that.

    I wholeheartedly agree with this comment.

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    Gabriel
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    In general context, regardless of the color of the person’s skin, if they didn’t give a worthy performance, they shouldn’t be nominated. “Diversity” or race for that matter shouldn’t be a factor. Simple as that. 
     

    EXACTLY!

    Nominate the five best acting performances. Who cares about the color of their skin?! Whether they’re white, black, yellow, purple is IRRELEVANT.

    Do people honestly expect voters to nominate people of color just to “prove” they’re not “racist”?! If there was a quota introduced,  that would be incredibly offensive and, ironically, RACIST.

    If there isn’t enough diversity represented in the nominations then blame writers/directors/producers for not casting enough people of color in good, substantial lead roles.

    There’s not really much else to be argued here, to be honest. But people continue to whine about it…

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    True Tenor
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    My argument is that there are performances by non-whites that are worthy of nomination. The “5 best performances” is certainly subjective,  I  mean c’mon Nicole Kidman got nominated for The Paperboy. It seems like they are totally ignoring these performances. 

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    Gabriel
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    But there are many other performances by WHITE actors too that got overlooked. Why do we need to separate actors by their skin color? Good performances will get overlooked no matter what the color of an actor’s skin was.

    Yes, Kidman got nominated. That doesn’t make them racist for not putting in a non-white actor over her. She got in because 1)The Golden Globes are a farce and 2) They’re more likely to go for movie stars than lesser known actors. This is not a new thing.

    Let’s leave race out of it. Again, it’s IRRELEVANT.

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    Icky
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    Yes, Kidman got nominated. That doesn’t make them racist for not putting in a non-white actor over her. She got in because 1)The Golden Globes are a farce and 2) They’re more likely to go for movie stars than lesser known actors. This is not a new thing.

    Yes. Berry’s nomination was further evidence of this.

    BOTSW is not a very awards-friendly movie. And the other “minority” contenders are little known actors (in America) from little known movies.

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    Max 2.0
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    I wouldn’t consider the Globes a “farce”. They maybe not as important as the Oscar, but to win one is stil pretty great. White actors dominate the awards, does that mean they are better actors that other people of “color”? No. But most of those performances are overlooked. It’s pretty easy to say it is irrelevant when you are not affected by it.

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    Renaton
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    People sorta miss the point that maybe it lacks diversity and they aren’t delivering the same performances white actors get because they don’t get the same quality roles. So just saying “Fuck it, who cares about the color of their skin or race?” I think is simplifing a bit when True Tenor and Max raised solid points to discuss. Even though I don’t think black/latin/asian actors should be nominated simply for their race, it’s ridiculous the lack of good roles for them.

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    Icky
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    I’m a minority of race and sexuality, so I take diversity very seriously. I just don’t pull out the race card in such silly circumstances. Was there a well-known in the US, acclaimed performance this year that wasn’t by an actor of white persuasion? Quvenzhané Wallis is a child actor who wasn’t in an awards friendly movie. Beyond that, there was nothing. There will always be performances that get overlooked every year, and some of them will always be by non caucasions. But people need to focus less on seeing non white actors at these award shows and start demanding a more talented field of “minority” filmmakers (ie stop going to Tyler Perry Movies) or make some attempts to make some damn movies themselves. (And please, don’t make The Help, Part 2. The first one being directed by a white fellow of course). The lack of quality film roles for non-whites, women past forty and openly gay actors is very discouraging.

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    Cordell Martin
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    This was a strong year in
    film for Black performers in front of the camera and even behind the camera. 

    Producing: Reginald Huldin (Django Unchained)/ Ava DuVernay (Middle of
    Nowhere)

    Acting: Denzel Washington (Flight)/ Quvenzhane Wallis & Dwight
    Henry (Beasts of the Southern Wild)/ Jamie Foxx, Samuel Jackson & Kerry
    Washington (Django)/ Nate Parker (Arbitrage)/ Emayatzy Corinealdi, Lorraine
    Toussaint & David Oyleowo (Middle of Nowhere)/ Omar Sy (The Intouchables)
    and to a certain extent Halle Berry (Cloud Atlas)/ Mike Epps (Sparkle) and
    Gloria Reuben (Lincoln) 

    Writing: Rashida Jones (Celeste and Jesse Forever)/ Ava
    DuVernay (Middle of Nowhere) 

    Animation: Peter Ramsey (Rise
    of the Guardians)

    Documentary: Marley, The
    Central Park Five, Brooklyn Castle 

    At the end of the day many of these performers,
    directors and writers won’t get the nominations and recognition due to lack of
    name recognition, lack of funds to campaign, and also due to competition in
    their respective categories. I hope come Oscar nominations we see some of these
    people listed in the mix. However I think Denzel will get in for Lead Actor/
    Wallis for Lead Actress/ Huldin for Best Picture and Ramsey for Best Animated
    Feature. 

     

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