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  • Jake
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    #108407

    National Board of Review?
    New York? Los Angeles?

    There are tones of critics cicles. Which are the most influential and relevent in terms of major awards circuit? 

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    Aunt Peg
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    #108409

    Only 3 –
    New York
    LA
    National Society of Film Critics (though as they have not moved up there award annoucements there impact may lessen).

    National Board of Review aren’t film critics and are very questionable. I think they may have had some effect years ago but not so anymore. 

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    #108410

    None of them, really. They are not voting for the Oscars. You can be critically acclaimed, still snubbed at the Oscars and the oppsite. These are just awards we spend our boring days until the Oscar nominations. 

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    Malick
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    #108411

    hard question to answer since soooooo many of the groups think theyre more important then they really are…cough cough LAFAC. Their whole “anything but lincoln and Daniel day-lewis” was awful to hear about last year.

    Maybe Chicago & NY & NY online.

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    Aunt Peg
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    I have put together some interesting stats on the NY, LA & NCFA. 

    These awards can help guide the Academy but winning one far from guarantees a nomination (just ask Sally Hawkins). Still there are interesting because they do give a critical consensus of sorts for each year.

    The New York Film Critics awards are more
    interesting then the other major critics awards because they have been giving
    them out since 1935 (missing only 1962). However they didn’t start giving out
    awards for supporting players until 1969.

    Comparing the actors who have won the most
    Oscars compared with New York Film critic awards show some glaring differences
    and that the NYFC don’t seem to care if they give multiple awards to a
    larger group of actors then the Academy has. The most awarded actors for the New York
    Awards are as follows:

     

    Jack Nicholson (6)

    Daniel Day Lewis (5)

    Meryl Streep (5)

    Robert De Niro (4)

    Sissy Spacek (4)

    Ingrid Bergman (3)

    Julie Christie (3)

    Deborah Kerr (3)

    Burt Lancaster (3)

    Laurence Olivier (3)

    Liv Ullman (3)

    Joanne Woodward (3)

    Alan Arkin (2)

    Marlon Brando (2)

    James Cagney (2)

    Olivia De Haviland (2)

    Robert Duvall (2)

    Sally Field (2)

    Jane Fonda (2)

    Greta Garbo (2)

    John Gielgud (2)

    Gene Hackman (2)

    Audrey Hepburn (2)

    Holly Hunter (2)

    Glenda Jackson (2)

    Jennifer Jason Leigh (2)

    Vivien Leigh (2)

    Helen Mirren (2)

    Bill Murray (2)

    Ralph Richardson (2)

    Maximillian Schell (2)

    James Stewart (2)

    Jon Voight (2)

    Dianne Wiest (2)

     

    The National Society of Film Critics Awards
    and the LA Film Critics Awards started in 1966 and 1975 respectively and their
    most awarded actors are as follows:

     

    National Society of Film Critics

     

    Jack Nicholson (5)

    Meryl Streep (4)

    Daniel Day Lewis (3)

    Gene Hackman (3)

    Vanessa Redgrave (3)

    Liv Ullman (3)

    Amy Adams (2)

    Julie Christie (2)

    Judy Davis (2)

    Robert De Niro (2)

    Dustin Hoffman (2)

    Anjelica Huston (2)

    Steve Martin (2)

    Bill Murray (2)

    Helen Mirren (2)

    Sissy Spacek (2)

    Dianne Weist (2)

    Reese Witherspoon (2)

     

    LA Film Critic Awards

     

    Meryl Streep (4)

    Daniel Day Lewis (3)

    Jack Nicholson (3)

    Joan Allen (2)

    Robert De Niro (2)

    Robert Duvall (2)

    John Gielgud (2)

    Holly Hunter (2)

    William Hurt (2)

    Anjelica Huston (2)

    Julianne Moore (2)

    Bill Murray (2)

    Christopher Plummer (2)

    Sissy Spacek (2)

    Maureen Stapleton (2)

     

    Overall most awarded by combing the three
    groups is as follows, though it must be noted that actors working from the
    1930’s to 1960’s/1970’s are disadvantaged due to the later period that the NSCF
    & LAFC started their awards

     

                                                    Lead/Support

    Jack Nicholson

    (14)

    (9 5)

    Meryl Streep

    (13)

    (8 5)

    Daniel Day-Lewis

    (11)

    (10 1)

    Robert De Niro

    (8)

    (6 2)

    Sissy Spacek

    (8)

    (7 1)

    Liv Ullman

    (7)

    (7 0)

    Gene Hackman

    (6)

    (2 4)

    Anjelica Huston

    (6)

    (2 4)

    Bill Murray

    (6)

    (3 3)

    Julie Christie

    (5)

    (5 0)

    Robert Duvall

    (5)

    (4 1)

    John Gielgud

    (5)

    (1 4)

    Helen Mirren

    (5)

    (3 2)

    Holly Hunter

    (5)

    (5 0)

    Burt Lancaster

    (5)

    (5 0)

    Vanessa Redgrave

    (5)

    (3 2)

    Dianne Wiest

    (5)

    (0 5)

    Ingrid Bergman

    (4)

    (4 0)

    Judy Davis

    (4)

    (1 3)

    Sally Field

    (4)

    (3 1)

    Jane Fonda

    (4)

    (4 0)

    Dustin Hoffman

    (4)

    (4 0)

    Steve Martin

    (4)

    (4 0)

    Jon Voight

    (4)

    (4 0)

    Amy Adams

    (3)

    (0 3)

    Joan Allen

    (3)

    (0 3)

    Marlon Brando

    (3)

    (3 0)

    Nicolas Cage

    (3)

    (3 0)

    Jessica Chastain

    (3)

    (0 3)

    Patricia Clarkson

    (3)

    (0 3)

    Morgan Freeman

    (3)

    (0 3)

    Sally Hawkins

    (3)

    (3 0)

    Bob Hoskins

    (3)

    (3 0)

    William Hurt

    (3)

    (1 2)

    Glenda Jackson

    (3)

    (3 0)

    Jeremy Irons

    (3)

    (3 0)

    Deborah Kerr

    (3)

    (3 0)

    Martin Landau

    (3)

    (0 3)

    Jessica Lange

    (3)

    (1 2)

    Jennifer Jason Leigh

    (3)

    (2 1)

    Virginia Madsen

    (3)

    (0 3)

    Mo’Nique

    (3)

    (0 3)

    Julianne Moore

    (3)

    (1 2)

    Nick Nolte

    (3)

    (3 0)

    Laurence Olivier

    (3)

    (3 0)

    Sean Penn

    (3)

    (3 0)

    Joe Pesci

    (3)

    (0 3)

    Michelle Pfieffer

    (3)

    (3 0)

    Burt Reynolds

    (3)

    (0 3)

    Jason Robards

    (3)

    (0 3)

    Geoffrey Rush

    (3)

    (2 1)

    Maureen Stapleton

    (3)

    (0 3)

    Imelda Staunton

    (3)

    (3 0)

    Mary Steenburgen

    (3)

    (0 3

    Hilary Swank

    (3)

    3 0)

    Emma Thompson

    (3)

    (3 0)

    Christoph Waltz

    (3)

    (0 3)

    Forest Whittaker

    (3)

    (3 0)

    Reese Witherspoon

    (3)

    (3 0)

    Joanne Woodward

    (3)

    (3 0)

     

      Scott will be able to put alot more input into these then I can.

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    Logan
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    hard question to answer since soooooo many of the groups think theyre more important then they really are…cough cough LAFAC. Their whole “anything but lincoln and Daniel day-lewis” was awful to hear about last year.

    Lincoln won a combined five awards from the NY and NSFC groups (cited 8 times in total). That it missed from LA might be surprising but I’m not sure that it’s a sign that they were, “anything but Lincoln.” Day-Lewis has even won in LA three times.

    I would probably take the NSFC BP winner just about every time to the Oscar BP winner (other than when they match up, obviously). 

    Since 1990, NSFC has given films like Goodfellas, Unforgiven, Babe, Breaking the Waves, Mulholland Drive, Million Dollar Baby, Pan’s Labyrinth, There Will Be Blood, The Hurt Locker, The Social Network, Melancholia, and Amour their top honor. Even the group’s choices that I don’t particularly like are less questionable than the Oscars’ selections.

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    #108414

    NYFC is by far the most influential and important historically and to the present day.

    National Board of Review is not a critics group. Nor is the Broadcast Critics (mainly entertainment reporters) or the Golden Globes same thing).

    LAFC is next most important. They and NY vote before nominations, increasing their importance.

    NSFC is equally prestigious, but now vote after nomination ballots are in. Historically less important.

    Other city critics’ groups have little impact other than making posters here excited when their favorites win.         

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    Other city critics’ groups have little impact other than making posters here excited when their favorites win.

    So cold!

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    Scottferguson
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    #108417

    They have no impact on Academy voters to any discernable extent.

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    Halo_Insider
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    #108418

    I actually find NBR interesting because winning there almost seems to guarantee that you won’t end up winning an Oscar. I mean, only 2 of their last 10 picks for film of the year have won Best Picture, they’ve picked George Clooney for Best Actor just about every other year since 2007, and they were one of the few (if not the only) major group not to give Christoph Waltz and Mo’Nique supporting trophies in 2009.

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    #108419

    Put me in the club who prefers National Society’s BP picks to the Oscars. 

    BTW has any actor gotten all 4 groups in a single year? or at least placed?

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    Malick
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    [quote=”MalickFanboy”]hard question to answer since soooooo many of the groups think theyre more important then they really are…cough cough LAFAC. Their whole “anything but lincoln and Daniel day-lewis” was awful to hear about last year.

    Lincoln won a combined five awards from the NY and NSFC groups (cited 8 times in total). That it missed from LA might be surprising but I’m not sure that it’s a sign that they were, “anything but Lincoln.” Day-Lewis has even won in LA three times.

    I would probably take the NSFC BP winner just about every time to the Oscar BP winner (other than when they match up, obviously). 

    Since 1990, NSFC has given films like Goodfellas, Unforgiven, Babe, Breaking the Waves, Mulholland Drive, Million Dollar Baby, Pan’s Labyrinth, There Will Be Blood, The Hurt Locker, The Social Network, Melancholia, and Amour their top honor. Even the group’s choices that I don’t particularly like are less questionable than the Oscars’ selections.[/quote]

    It happened, believe it or not. And you easily find the info.

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