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  • rstang00
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    I know many are miffed at Idris Elba not scoring a nomination (#Oscarssowhite) but it doesn’t bother me as much as Jacob Tremblay – the best performance in “Room” – not getting a much deserved Supporting Actor nomination (especially if Vikander and Mara can get into Supporting). That had me thinking: is it time for Oscar to give younger actors their own category? An on that, it surely is time to add a Casting Oscar category. It’s crazy there hasn’t been one added yet. 

    If you could, what would you add as a category at the Oscars? Or is it good as is?

    I’d go with Casting for sure, but would need some thought on younger performances.  

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    babypook
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    Stunts. Call it, the Mad Max rule. 

    These guys and gals are risking their lives.

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    pablozedd
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    Best New. Even though it may result in one person getting two prizes like it would happen to Brie Larson… Or not.

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    rstang00
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    Stunts. Call it, the Mad Max rule. 

    These guys and gals are risking their lives.
    Stunts! Of Course! I’d be on board with that in a sec.

    Best New. Even though it may result in one person getting two prizes like it would happen to Brie Larson.
    Like the ‘Best New Artist’ category at the Grammys? That’d be cool. Especially if Jennifer Lawrence would be eligible so I can continue being entertained by people here flipping their sh*t over her being nominated all the time.

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    babypook
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    [quote=”babypook”]Stunts. Call it, the Mad Max rule. 

    These guys and gals are risking their lives.
    Stunts! Of Course! I’d be on board with that in a sec.

    Best New. Even though it may result in one person getting two prizes like it would happen to Brie Larson.
    Like the ‘Best New Artist’ category at the Grammys? That’d be cool. Especially if Jennifer Lawrence would be eligible so I can continue being entertained by people here flipping their sh*t over her being nominated all the time.

     

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    Lolol!

    Same.

     

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    Eddy Q
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    This might not make me popular, but I don’t think they should add any more Oscar categories. Not best casting, not best young actor/actress, and God forbid not best stunts.

    The last of these has been campaigned for numerous times but is the easiest to dismiss, not because stunt-work isn’t award-worthy in itself, but because you’ve got the entire Academy voting for winners and they won’t have a clue. Because of the amount of editing involved, it’s even harder for non-specialists to assess the work than in other categories. Also stunt-performance isn’t really a cinematic art as such – and even makeup is because it’s character work which is highly affected by lighting and cinematography in the end result. 

    As for Best Casting/Ensemble Cast, the criteria are too vague. Would you nominate casting directors or simply a whole bunch of actors like at SAG? The problem with casting directors is that you can’t assess their work directly by what’s on screen, and aren’t a lot of big name cast members chosen by producers/directors anyway? As for the other option, you don’t want 15-20 people all coming up on stage at once in the middle of the ceremony. That would really slow things down.

    Having a young performers’ category would be problematic if one of them has a “real” nomination to go with it, as it’ll look obvious as to who will win. Or it might inadvertently prevent them from getting said nomination they would’ve had a chance for otherwise. I think 20 acting nominees is enough (so no voice-acting category either), especially considering we only have 5 nominees for directing, cinematography and editing, all more vital elements of cinema than good acting.

     

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    Tony Ruiz
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    There really should be a voice-over category.  The work that some of these voice actors do is just stunning. 

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    Riley
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    I would add casting and a joint stunts/choreography category.  There are not enough good performances from young actors to warrant a category.  They snubbed Jacob Tremblay, but they nominated Quvenzhané Wallis, so it works out often enough.  I would skip voice work.  A lot of those guys are only in the studio for like a day recording their lines.  An Oscar should require a bit more effort.  If the voice actors are truly exceptional, they can be recognized either in the supporting categories like Eddie Murphy at BAFTA for Shrek or the casting director can be nominated.

    God forbid not best stunts. The last of these has been campaigned for numerous times but is the easiest to dismiss, not because stunt-work isn’t award-worthy in itself, but because you’ve got the entire Academy voting for winners and they won’t have a clue. Because of the amount of editing involved, it’s even harder for non-specialists to assess the work than in other categories.

    You can say that about any category.  Remind me why actors are voting for the winner in sound editing.  Or remind me why they give out awards to actors when performances are largely shaped in the editing room.

    As for Best Casting/Ensemble Cast, the criteria are too vague. Would you nominate casting directors or simply a whole bunch of actors like at SAG? The problem with casting directors is that you can’t assess their work directly by what’s on screen, and aren’t a lot of big name cast members chosen by producers/directors anyway? As for the other option, you don’t want 15-20 people all coming up on stage at once in the middle of the ceremony. That would really slow things down.

    Ralph said “Casting”, not “Ensemble”; the Emmys get along just fine nominating and awarding the casting directors for that.  And again, you can say what you did about any category.  How can you assess how much editing was the work of the editor versus the director in the editing room or even the director on set?  Where does cinematography start and directing end?

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    taloson
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    The only one I’d like to see is Voiceover Performance. Would have loved to see Amy Poehler and Phyllis Smith nominated — their voicework is better than some of the nominated acting performances, to me anyway.

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    Best Voice Performance
    Best Casting
    Best Stunt Coordination 

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    Yes to:

    Combining the Sound categories
    Separating Makeup and Hairstyling
    Creating Best Voiceover (award goes to performer)
    Creating Best Casting (award goes to casting director)
    Announcing the three Short Films during the red carpet or commercial breaks

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    rstang00
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    Voice over is a good one. Could that be combined tho with some kind of Andy Serkis type Oscar category (live action performance that’s not really live action)? 

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    Marcus Dixon
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    They could call it Best Alternative Performance or something.

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    Eddy Q
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    I would add casting and a joint stunts/choreography category.  There are not enough good performances from young actors to warrant a category.  They snubbed Jacob Tremblay, but they nominated Quvenzhané Wallis, so it works out often enough.  I would skip voice work.  A lot of those guys are only in the studio for like a day recording their lines.  An Oscar should require a bit more effort.  If the voice actors are truly exceptional, they can be recognized either in the supporting categories like Eddie Murphy at BAFTA for Shrek or the casting director can be nominated.[quote=”Wilkomirsk11″]God forbid not best stunts. The last of these has been campaigned for numerous times but is the easiest to dismiss, not because stunt-work isn’t award-worthy in itself, but because you’ve got the entire Academy voting for winners and they won’t have a clue. Because of the amount of editing involved, it’s even harder for non-specialists to assess the work than in other categories.You can say that about any category.  Remind me why actors are voting for the winner in sound editing.  Or remind me why they give out awards to actors when performances are largely shaped in the editing room.

    As for Best Casting/Ensemble Cast, the criteria are too vague. Would you nominate casting directors or simply a whole bunch of actors like at SAG? The problem with casting directors is that you can’t assess their work directly by what’s on screen, and aren’t a lot of big name cast members chosen by producers/directors anyway? As for the other option, you don’t want 15-20 people all coming up on stage at once in the middle of the ceremony. That would really slow things down.

    Ralph said “Casting”, not “Ensemble”; the Emmys get along just fine nominating and awarding the casting directors for that.  And again, you can say what you did about any category.  How can you assess how much editing was the work of the editor versus the director in the editing room or even the director on set?  Where does cinematography start and directing end?

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    Food for thought. I guess the ultimate difference for me is that editing, for instance, is an essential, expressive element of cinema which should be awarded in any case, regardless of who is truly responsible for each editorial decision. One of the main problems with these types of awards is that they isolate specific elements of filmmaking so much that we can easily forget how interconnected they are. I think there are more meaningful conversations to be had about how various elements work together on one movie than simply comparing the cinematography/editing of a bunch of movies that happen to be released in the same year. But if we have to have these awards, I do inherently value certain categories above others. I don’t think much about the individual nominees and exactly what each contributed, I’m more interested in the visible result. So I’ll say the editing in Mad Max was great, even though I don’t know which decisions were Margaret Sixel’s and which were George Miller’s. And obviously someone’s got to pick up the award. But I don’t consider stunt-work and casting specifically as part of cinema aesthetics, despite the amount of hard work (and guts!) that goes into them, therefore I don’t think they have a place at a major film awards ceremony. But I’m all in favour of them having their own awards, which I guess they do already.

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    Hunter Logan
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    This might not make me popular, but I don’t think they should add any more Oscar categories. Not best casting, not best young actor/actress, and God forbid not best stunts.

    The last of these has been campaigned for numerous times but is the easiest to dismiss, not because stunt-work isn’t award-worthy in itself, but because you’ve got the entire Academy voting for winners and they won’t have a clue. Because of the amount of editing involved, it’s even harder for non-specialists to assess the work than in other categories. Also stunt-performance isn’t really a cinematic art as such – and even makeup is because it’s character work which is highly affected by lighting and cinematography in the end result. 

    As for Best Casting/Ensemble Cast, the criteria are too vague. Would you nominate casting directors or simply a whole bunch of actors like at SAG? The problem with casting directors is that you can’t assess their work directly by what’s on screen, and aren’t a lot of big name cast members chosen by producers/directors anyway? As for the other option, you don’t want 15-20 people all coming up on stage at once in the middle of the ceremony. That would really slow things down.

    Having a young performers’ category would be problematic if one of them has a “real” nomination to go with it, as it’ll look obvious as to who will win. Or it might inadvertently prevent them from getting said nomination they would’ve had a chance for otherwise. I think 20 acting nominees is enough (so no voice-acting category either), especially considering we only have 5 nominees for directing, cinematography and editing, all more vital elements of cinema than good acting.

     

    I agree with every one of your points, except for young actor. If adding a category makes them recognize such great work as Tremblay’s (or Attah’s), then I don’t care if it adds to the already big number of acting nominees. Also, the point you made of them being nominated elsewhere making the winner obvious also applies to foreign language film (we all knew Amour would win due to its BP nomination).

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