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Who wins Oscar number 2 first: Kidman or Winslet?

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  • Miles Allen
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    I think it’s pretty safe at this point to say that Pfeiffer isn’t getting in for mother! but if she keeps her momentum going after her Emmy nod and having multiple projects this year she could become an Oscar winner in the near future.

    LMAO. What are you even talking about? Michelle is a shoe in for nom. This is a weak ass year for supporting.

    What are you even talking about? Maybe Pfeiffer was a “shoe in” before anybody had seen the film but it was a box office bomb and critics were divided and she wasn’t even the standout. You’re living in about two months ago if you think that Pfeiffer is a shoe in. It is a weak year so no one is a shoe in but if there were it would be Janney and Metcalf. Let the Pfeiffer dream go.

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    Aint2Proud2Beg
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    What are you even talking about? Maybe Pfeiffer was a “shoe in” before anybody had seen the film but it was a box office bomb and critics were divided and she wasn’t even the standout. You’re living in about two months ago if you think that Pfeiffer is a shoe in. It is a weak year so no one is a shoe in but if there were it would be Janney and Metcalf. Let the Pfeiffer dream go.

    Lets just wait a bit shall we and we’ll see who is right.

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    PerksofBeingGriff
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    Glenn Close Oscar-less is criminal. The same for Sigourney Weaver and Michelle Pfeiffer. Do you think Pfeiffer can still squeeze a nod in supporting for mother?

    I don’t know if Mother will happen for her. I do think there is a way she’ll just get a nod because people want to nominate her.

    I think her best option is Murder on the Orient Express. I’ve heard amazing things about her performance in that film, and if the film is bad overall I could see it being the “Nine” of this year. She gets a supporting nod like Cruz. I don’t know if she will win though.

    “Someone is staring at you in ‘Personal Growth’.”

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    Aint2Proud2Beg
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    I don’t know if Mother will happen for her. I do think there is a way she’ll just get a nod because people want to nominate her. I think her best option is Murder on the Orient Express. I’ve heard amazing things about her performance in that film, and if the film is bad overall I could see it being the “Nine” of this year. She gets a supporting nod like Cruz. I don’t know if she will win though.

    No one is getting anything for MOTOE, i can guarantee you that.

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    distain
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    Also you have to go back to 2014 to find a ” medicore” kidman movie .. and its a kids movie “paddington” whereas winslet was in triple 9 and Collateral beauty last year …. soooo

    My God…I didn’t realise just how bad Winslet’s career has been this decade till I saw her Rotten Tomatoes profile. 10 of Winslet’s last 11 films have a Rotten rating. Steve Jobs is the only freshly rated movie in her last 11 attempts.

    That’s insane. I thought Naomi Watts had a terrible run, but on paper Winslet’s is actually worse. Interesting that Winslet doesn’t recieve bad press for what is a pretty legendary run of critical flops. Kidman has had streaks of “Rotten” rated films, but never a streak like Winslet’s. Yet the press never passed up any opportunity to drag Kidman for her films not living up to promise. Winslet has somehow gone under the radar for having one of the worst critical streaks I can think of for an actors movies.

    Aside from her foot-in-mouth disease when it comes to defending certain predators, Winslet seriously has an amazing PR team. Even Michael Fassbender is getting “can his career recover” Op-Eds after a couple of flops.

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    Eddy Q
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    I can see where you are coming from. Mcdormand and Bates sort of occupy that similar space of accomplished character actresses whom we assume will be one and done.

    Your wishes would probably come true if Sony Picture Classics didn’t make one of the all-time giangundo awards season mistakes in buying and then shelving Glenn Closes’s The Wife till next year.

    In a season where no one else has a narrative like Close to demand a win (and with Close having the type of reviews that could sweep the board), you just have to slap your forehead and wonder what on earth these jokers were thinking. Close could probably have coasted to a win.

    Next year will bring a whole new set of different contenders with some that might have powerful narratives of their own, and the buzz Close had could easily lose impact. This season was the perfect storm for a Close win and SPC just torpedoed it. Close must be pissed.

    This is why some actors and filmmakers put clauses in their contracts for certain films when it comes to distribution. If Close had agreed a clause that whomever bought the distribution rights would have to run an awards season campaign in the year the rights were purchased, it might be a different story. It’d limit the interested buyers, but if the quality is strong enough, as reviews suggest, it;d still attract a solid distributor.

    You know, I’m not sure I agree with you. Oscar voters are often not as sentimental as we like to presume, and I think it’s possible – in fact, even probable – that Close would’ve lost to one of our two current frontrunners, Hawkins or McDormand, if SPC had released The Wife this year, despite Close’s overdue status. Her reviews were stellar, but by most accounts it is a relatively quiet, subtle performance without obvious baity elements, and she likely would’ve been the only nominee for her film. By contrast, Hawkins and McDormand are headlining major Best Picture contenders (both films are being predicted by some to even win the top award), while McDormand gets to toss off monologues (from what I’ve read) and Hawkins has an obvious acting showcase in her silent role, relying on body movement and facial expression alone to communicate. Even without a real narrative to win, one of them still could’ve done it with Close in the picture.

    I think SPC foresaw this. I think they realised that being overdue is not a guarantee of winning (just look at Peter O’Toole losing to a first-time nominee on his 8th and final nomination), and especially when you’re up against baity performances in Best Picture frontrunners. This isn’t like Julianne Moore in Still Alice, where her only competitor in a Best Picture nominee was being overshadowed by her male co-star in terms of buzz. So SPC decided to hedge their bets and go the way of Away from Her in 2006-7; granted, that was a more obvious decision because Helen Mirren was a slam dunk right from the start, but maybe they’re hoping for a clearer field next year. It may or may not work, but it might’ve ended up looking like a wasted opportunity if she’d contended and lost this year as well. And I actually think that would’ve happened.

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    just look at Peter O’Toole losing to a first-time nominee on his 8th and final nomination

    Forest Whitaker isn’t some anonymous newcomer waltzing to snatch a prize from the presumed front runner. He was the front runner who was overdue himself for award season recognition. The Academy already gave Peter an honorary which he had refused in the past.

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    Eddy Q
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    just look at Peter O’Toole losing to a first-time nominee on his 8th and final nomination

    Forest Whitaker isn’t some anonymous newcomer waltzing to snatch a prize from the presumed front runner. He was the front runner who was overdue himself for award season recognition.

    Didn’t say he was an anonymous newcomer, and he was certainly the frontrunner, but even if he was overdue for awards consideration, I don’t think he was perceived as overdue for an Oscar win.

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    Andrew Carden
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    I don’t think Pfeiffer is even among the top 10 for Supporting Actress anymore (sadly).

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    I don’t think Pfeiffer is even among the top 10 for Supporting Actress anymore (sadly).

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    Can you at least wait until SAG has their say? I believe Critics Choice and the Globes will recognize her.

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    StegeoTV
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    What about other actresses though? I think we should be wary of someone else getting a 2nd Oscar before these 2, which would be surprising I know.

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    ENGLAND
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    I think Kidman is more talented, so I’d go with her.

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    unown
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    Kidman for sure. She just had a bumper year. She also does more diverse and interesting roles even though they might not appeal to oscar voters. Whilst Winslet just does stuff that is baity as hell and super safe. She does not take risks.

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    cinephile_
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    I’m going with Kidman she’s had an incredible year. Boy, Erased seems like it has everything going for her. She well-liked in the industry and boy oh boy does the industry love “comeback stories” you can bet if Boy, Erased gets great reviews she’ll be a definite bet for a supp. actress nomination.

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    BigJay2012
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    If we are talking about pure skill…..it’s definitely Winslet.

    I mean

    Eternal Sunshine
    Little Children
    Titanic
    Revolutionary Road
    Mildred Pierce
    Sense and Sensibility

    And so on…….

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