April 3, 2014 at 7:18 pm #150054
It sometimes happens that an actor/actress wins an oscar, which might be well deserved, but it was for the wrong movie/performance.
Who do you believe didn´t win when they were supposed to or when they most deserved to. (btw if this thread already exists, sorry!)
Mmm I actually haven´t given that much of a thought to this, I literally just wondered, but of the top of my head….
– Winslet: has much better nominated performances, particularly the one she competed herself against that very year throughout the race.
– Bullock: not that she deserved to win ahead of blanchett, but she deserved an oscar for gravity, not that thing she won for
– Kidman: I am definitely not one of those that hates her win, I actually love that performance, but it is not her best.
– Al Pacino: the godfather I or II, or others…not that his actual win was undeserved.
– Colin Firth: again, not undeserved, but MORE deserving the year before…
– Leonardo DiCaprio: at this rate I get the feeling he is going to win due to his overdue status for something that is just ok, kinda like they did with winslet…specially given that he already gave the performances I would´ve listed here…..April 3, 2014 at 7:25 pm #150056
The best example for me is Paul Newman. He should have won for Cool Hand Luke, The Hustler orButch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. The Color of Money was the same role as The Hustler, but it was a way of rewarding him for an excellent career.
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The Color of Money was the same role as The Hustler, but it was a way of rewarding him for an excellent career.
Well, they made him pay for it by his recent work in The Verdict (James Mason, Lindsay Crouse, so divine). They could have given him the Oscar then, if all they wanted to do was ‘reward’ him. Of course, he was up against Kingsley, who was not going to lose.
I dont mean to be contrarian about this, but I’ve never really been convinced by this notion, that it’s a retroactive win or a makeup win. Sure, some may vote that way. But the majority just might vote for consistency and momentum, which I dont believe is the same thing. Put together a string of acclaimed perfs, and voila. And who’s to say which one of those was the best?
But to answer your question, Cate Blanchett’s first win comes to mind. She IS Elizabeth, but was she going to win as a relative unknown against a Hollywood princess? And now she has one for giving a jaw-droppingly great perf in BJ.April 3, 2014 at 9:00 pm #150058
Judi Dench.April 8, 2014 at 11:37 am #150059
Renee Zellwegger should have won for Chicago
April 8, 2014 at 4:52 pm #150060
So I have to go old school and go with Sidney Poitier. He famously won for “Lillies in the Field” BUT should have won in 1958 for “The Definat Ones”.
Another one that came to mind is Gig Young. He won for “They Shoot Horses, Don’t They” but should have won for “Come Fill the Cup” in 1951.April 8, 2014 at 5:43 pm #150061
Katharine Hepburn famously said the right actors when Oscars but for the wrong roles.
Of her 4 wins, I only support her win for The Lion in Winter. She should’ve won for Long Day’s Journey Into Night and Alice Adams.
Judi Dench should’ve won for Mrs. Brown and not Shakespeare in Love.
Al Pacino truly warrants this because he deserved at least two Oscars and his work in Scent of a Woman was not deserving of a win.
Nicole Kidman definitely won for the wrong performance. Her best work is still her snubbed performance in the underrated To Die For.
Bette Davis won an Oscar for Dangerous when she should’ve won for a couple of different performances. She can keep her Jezebel Oscar.
Jimmy Stewart winning for The Philadelphia Story was an early example of this case.
Shirley MacLaine should’ve won for The Apartment and not Terms of Endearment.
I also feel Meryl Streep’s third Oscar should’ve come from A Cry in the Dark and that her performances in movies like Bridges and Julie & Julia were better than The Iron Lady.April 8, 2014 at 7:11 pm #150062
sometimes people even won for the right role, but the wrong actor
like Kim Basinger, for instance
Ellen Burstyn is also a great example for this too, she should have won for The ExorcistApril 9, 2014 at 1:11 am #150063
Russell Crowe gave far better performances in The Insider and A Beautiful Mind than in Gladiator.April 9, 2014 at 1:28 am #150064
All interesting comments. Alas, I remain unconvinced. This stuff is subjective, which explains why I dont agree with some of these examples, such as Judi Dench.
I guess cliches such as paying your dues, proving you’re not a one-trick fluke, working hard and never ever phoning it in is stil out there,
Man, do I ever sound like a dame sometimes, but there it is.April 13, 2014 at 12:59 pm #150065
Al Pacino is the biggest example I can think of. Such stellar work in Serpico, Dog Day Afternoon, The Godfather, (especially) The Godfather Part II, etc. Yet he wins for a hammy portrayal in a movie that has not aged well.July 24, 2014 at 5:27 pm #150066
Nicole Kidman should have won for Moulin Rouge!
Kate Winslet should have won for Titanic
Daniel Day Lewis- Gangs of New York
George Clooney- Up in the Air or The Descendants
Meryl Streep- Doubt or August: Osage County
August 2, 2014 at 7:28 pm #150067
Personally, I have to say the best example of this is Henry Fonda. He unjustly lost for The Grapes of Wrath. His daughter bankrolled an Oscar bait film and then stumped unrelentingly for Academy attention. His Best Actor honor for On Golden Pond is the true example of a win for a career.August 2, 2014 at 7:41 pm #150068
Sean Penn for Dead Man Walking instead of Mystic River (should have gone to Depp that year, in my opinion) and Milk (should have gone to Rourke that year).
Daniel Day-Lewis for Gangs of New York instead of Lincoln.
Al Pacino is probably the most famous example for actors that won for the wrong role. I honestly think his best performance was in Dog Day Afternoon, but I really can’t deny Nicholson an Oscar for One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest. As others have pointed out, Pacino probably should have won at least 2 Oscars in the ’70s, and it seems like the most obvious choice would have been for him to win for The Godfather: Part II.
I also think that Tom Hanks‘ best performance came after his 2 Oscar wins, with Cast Away.
Robert De Niro should have won for either Mean Streets or Taxi Driver instead of The Godfather: Part II. Raging Bull was a deserving win, so I won’t take that away from him, but I honestly think that Taxi Driver was his career best performance, and Mean Streets was his best supporting role.August 2, 2014 at 8:04 pm #150069
Sean Penn for Dead Man Walking instead of Mystic River (should have gone to Depp that year, in my opinion)
Daniel Day-Lewis for Gangs of New York instead of Lincoln.
Al Pacino is probably the most famous example for actors that won for the wrong role. I honestly think his best performance was in Dog Day Afternoon, but I really can’t deny Nicholson an Oscar for One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest. .
I agree with these definitly. I haven’t seen Dead Man Walking yet but I agree that he shouldn’t have won for Mystic River over Depp