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  • Rooney Moore
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    No overdue factor. No comeback narrative. No ”You’ve just won” bias.
    If the Emmys tape system were adapted into Oscars and all Academy members(or just like with the Emmys, the randomly selected ones) were forced to watch all nominees at the AMPAS building and rank them by their merits, who would prevail in the acting categories this year?

    It hurts to me to say it, but I guess Lawrence would have pretty much a strong shot, since she’s in every single frame of the movie and you watch her rising story; cry with her, laugh with her along the road etc. Her bigger than life acting style also would help to differentiate her from others.

    Redmayne would be in contention, too. The part is extremely baity and you feel for his character until the very last minute.

    Vikander would be a lock, I guess. She has both screentime advantage and has a flashy part. Supporting actor would be a head scratcher. Sly has plenty of screentime but that was not exactly a role that required him to use his acting muscles. Bale? Hardy?
    What are your thoughts? 

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    Zooey the Dreamer
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    Actor – Most likely Fassbender, but DiCaprio would have a shot because the tape system isn’t completely averse to sentiment.

    Actress – Charlotte Rampling would win that in a cakewalk. Ronan and Larson will fight for the second spot.

    Supporting Actor – Ruffalo or Rylance.

    Supporting Actress – Probably Rooney Mara or Alicia Vikander, maybe even JJL. Don’t forget that the tape system relies on ranking as well, so it matters who’s # 2.

    And if the tape system has been in order, Meryl Streep would probably have at least five Oscars at home, so yeah.. 

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    AMG
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    Actor – Fassbender. If the Oscars employed the techniques of the Emmys, then category fraud would be reduced, and maybe Tremblay would have made it in – in which case he would win on a tape system.
    Actress – Larson. Rampling is too subtle a performance to win on a tape basis.
    Supporting Actor – Rylance. Subtle yet showy, you are wanting him to come back on screen, he ignites it all when he is.
    Supporting Actress – Jason Leigh. Out there and hilarious yet brutal. Tarantino’s script would help her shine above her competitors in a tape system.

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    shart
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    Probably wouldn’t make that much difference.  Sentiment will always play some role, either based on the actor/actress involved or the character/movie they are in.  Some actors may prefer a smaller film with lots of small talk/emotion and others a film that is larger with bigger performances.  They like what they like. 

    I always feel the emmys miss out on something, a show, a performance or two, etc.  They are in no way perfectly determined by their membership nor could they ever be.  Sorry.

    DiCaprio has the bigger story going into the oscars this year.  Snubbed for some of his best previous performances, a bigger performance in a big film, whether you like it or not.  The due factor is playing out and it has another strong performance to back it up.  Fassbender could win in most other years against same actors, but he doesn’t have that due factor in his favor yet and he plays a dick in the movie.
    Larson/Ronan have the most emotional perfs, a plus for actresses in general.  Rampling gives a wonderful performance in a more subtle film that might be mistaken for boring by viewers.  Blanchett would probably win if she didn’t already have a couple of gold men sitting on her mantle.  Larson has the more compelling film narrative, though I think she’s pretty even steven with Ronan.  Larson for the win even with Tape.    
    Support Actor: Stallone gave a strong performance.  Rylance is a very skilled actor but also quite subtle.  Doesn’t mean Stallone won’t win even in a Tape session.
    Support Actress: Vickander is excellent and outshines her leading man.  Mara is superb and gives a tricky subtle performance that carries the movie through.  Maybe Mara in the tape system.  Leigh is too one note and never really reveals much depth, not that she’s allowed to since she’s the ball constantly being batted around in the movie.  I’d go with Mara but remember that sentiment still plays a role and Vickander is just prettier.  Never mind McAdams, since she really is just a cog in the ensemble where everyone is essentially a cog, excellent or not. 

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    babypook
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    No overdue factor. No comeback narrative. No ”You’ve just won” bias.
    If the Emmys tape system were adapted into Oscars and all Academy members(or just like with the Emmys, the randomly selected ones) were forced to watch all nominees at the AMPAS building and rank them by their merits, who would prevail in the acting categories this year?

    It hurts to me to say it, but I guess Lawrence would have pretty much a strong shot, since she’s in every single frame of the movie and you watch her rising story; cry with her, laugh with her along the road etc. Her bigger than life acting style also would help to differentiate her from others.

    Redmayne would be in contention, too. The part is extremely baity and you feel for his character until the very last minute.

    Vikander would be a lock, I guess. She has both screentime advantage and has a flashy part. Supporting actor would be a head scratcher. Sly has plenty of screentime but that was not exactly a role that required him to use his acting muscles. Bale? Hardy?
    What are your thoughts? 

     

    That would ruin the Oscars for me. Once they’re nominated, it’s the OTHER stuff which can win it or lose it for them.

    And how does one ‘force’ another person to watch everything? Not that voters shouldnt watch everything before voting, but the forcible things seems just a tad too Nazi for me.

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    Riley
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    DiCaprio would have a shot because the tape system isn’t completely averse to sentiment.

    Sure it is.  There are so many examples.

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    24Emmy
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    #211496

    Leonardo DiCaprio
    Brie Larson
    Sylvester Stallone
    Alicia Vikander

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    Tonbone
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    I wish we had a system where the voters made their votes based only on the performances and who had the best performance and none of this campaining BS or who is young or old or what not. 

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    SupaDupa Fly
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    I wish we had a system where the voters made their votes based only on the performances and who had the best performance and none of this campaining BS or who is young or old or what not. 

    I couldn’t agree more. The whole campaigning things is some bs. Are they running for President or something?  

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    CanadianFan
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    They probably won’t ever do it, but I would love a tape system at the Oscars.

    As for winners:

    Michael Fassbender for sure
    Probably Brie Larson, but Ronan could win
    Three-way race between Ruffalo, Stallone, and Hardy — maybe Hardy wins
    Probably Vikander, but Jennifer Jason Leigh could win

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    mafro987
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    Fassbender, Larson, Ruffalo/Rylance, Vikander

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    Rooney Moore
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    [quote=”xaviercocteau”]DiCaprio would have a shot because the tape system isn’t completely averse to sentiment.Sure it is.  There are so many examples.

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    Such as? 
    I think the ranking system is what prevents those lazy sentimental votes. Even if some would say ”Who cares? Leo is overdue. I’m placing him at first.” But after seeing all of the performances, they would probably rank the person they’ve been impressed with most as second . And there is only one point difference between #1 and #2.
    And not everybody would be that lazy, so… 

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    shart
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    Absolutely.  Sentiment, “due”-ness will always play a role in any of the award giving, though not necessarily a huge role.  It will be what it will be.  In DiCaprio’s case it just might play out in his favor but we will see.  Life goes on in any regard. 

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    Lord Freddy Blackfyre
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    Sorry to say the obvious but it is a “tape system”, we’re talking about picture of no more than three hours not programs of 10 to 22 hours. The winners would be exactly the same ones.

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    Riley
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    [quote=”thedemonhog”][quote=”xaviercocteau”]DiCaprio would have a shot because the tape system isn’t completely averse to sentiment.

    Sure it is.  There are so many examples.[/quote]Such as?[/quote]Steve Carell and Tony Shalhoub losing to Jim Parsons for their final seasons of The Office and Monk, Michael C. Hall losing when he had cancer to Bryan Cranston a third time, Cary Joji Fukanaga beating Vince Gilligan’s direction of the Breaking Bad finale, the Lost finale winning only one of its eight nominations, direction of the 30 Rock finale losing to yet another Modern Family episode, Kathryn Joosten not winning after she died.

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