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  • Turner Unruh
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    #143815

    They are the two most deserving films that won in the last five years

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    Scottferguson
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    Slumdog for me is OK, but a minor winner even among the majority mediocre ones of all time.

    As for King’s Speech – trying watching the film without sound. It is a visual mess, incompetently directed (which Hooper then managed to do even worse with Les Miserables). Staccato visual repetition, little imagination beyond what a beginning TV director would do.

    Then there is the slavish admiration for all things royal. The reality is that the two kings involved – Edward VII and then George VI – were Nazi sympathizers some extend. Edward was worse than George – after his abdication, he let Hitler know he’d be willing to return as king is Germany defeated Britain. George, who was sort of a dolt, was more of an appeaser who opposed Britain stopping Hitler when it still might have been possible, and then overreached his duties by rallying British support around Neville Chamberlain’s horrible Munich accords. You won’t learn any of this in the movie.

    But that’s extra. It is a mediocre movie by an incompetent director unworthy of acclaim. That it beat a masterpiece that was way too good a film for the Academy is secondary; any other nominee deserved to win more than this weak effort.

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    Junk
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    Both are fine films. I don’t think anybody hates them for what they are, but the only reason people despise TKS is because it won BP over TSN, and Slumdog because the little indie underdog movie over and out performed all the others a little too much and that probably angered a lot of folks.

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    CAROL-CHANNING
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    I think Slumdog is great.  Wonderful story, strong vision, good performances, great energy…  I think one of the top 3 BP winners of the 2000’s (along with Chicago and The Departed).

    TKS is a lovely film.  I enjoyed it very much when I saw it in the theater.  THEN it started pulling ahead of The Social Network, and I was like, “Woah, woah, woah, waaaaait a minute…”  I can’t believe it won over the other GREAT movies that came out that year, and I ESPECIALLY can’t believe it won the SAG Ensemble award.  In a year where there were a lot of inventive, exciting, fresh movies, the movie with no extraordinary qualities won.  Sure, it has a nice screenplay and some good performances (I support Firth’s win), but that’s about it.  Then Tom Hooper surprised and won best director, which was just completely going too far.  I actually enjoy Tom Hooper’s work (and appreciated some of the risks he took with Les Mis), but winning Director over Fincher was just crazy.  I really think the film’s win puts such a sour taste in people’s mouths because there is a sense that it didn’t win based on merit.  There is a feeling that it won simply because people wanted to vote AGAINST TSN.

    I’ve only seen TKS once since seeing it in theatres.  It was on DVD.  I was incredibly surprised at how poorly it held up during the second viewing. 

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    Cheshire
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    #143820

    Because it’s cool too hate on them and a lot of people are too stupid too have opinions of their own.

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    Scottferguson
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    Hate is just a stupid word for this. Thinking TKS was an unworthy winner doesn’t make someone a hater. It’s a feel-good mediocre movie that would have quickly been forgotten without its Oscar acclaim, like so many winners. It’s not evil or anything – it’s just mediocre.

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    Pavel Romanov
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    I’m fine with Slumdog Millionaire’s win. It’s a middle of the pack winner. The King’s Speech, however, was terribly over praised. It would’ve made a decent run-of-the-mill BBC telemovie, but Best Picture it was not. It won in large part because America tends to see anything that is British, especially anything having to do with the monarchy, as especially classy and top notch. And that best actor win for Colin Firth has done nothing for his film career at least in the US. His most recent films aren’t even being released in the US.

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    Cheshire
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    Hate is just a stupid word for this. Thinking TKS was an unworthy winner doesn’t make someone a hater. It’s a feel-good mediocre movie that would have quickly been forgotten without its Oscar acclaim, like so many winners. It’s not evil or anything – it’s just mediocre.

    I was mainly talking about people who follow the heard and in some cases don’t even watch the film and still hates on it (look at the comments on Crash & Shakespeare in Love winning best picture and you’ll see my point). If you’re not crazy about The King’s Speech that’s cool it’s your opinion & as much as I loved it, I would have given BP too Black Swan. 

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    Beau S.
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    The King’s Speech is a dreadful, awful, incompetently directed film. The acting (except for Bonham Carter) is the film’s only saving grace.

    Slumdog is great.

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    Mrs. Doolittle
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    #143825

    Because both films are utter rubbish, and its competition was light years better. That’s why.

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    Logan
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    I can’t remember much about TKS – I recall Firth crying at one point, and I remember him saying the speech near the end, but I mostly remember watching it with an audience and feeling a little uncomfortable with just how effective it was on the people in attendance. It was kind of like being an atheist at an evangelical service – I remember thinking, “Are these people for real? Are they actually buying this?”

    I can, however, appreciate the film for introducing me to the porno that had been made on the same set, prior to Hooper’s production. Look it up. 

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    Tyler The Awesome Guy
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    I really liked both films. In fact, I just finished rewatching The King’s Speech again when it aired on television, and I simply forgotten how much of a gem it was. It wasn’t the best film of 2010 in my opinion, but I still found it to be quite enjoyable. I also felt that Slumdog Millionaire was great, as well. Actually, it’s one of my favourite Best Picture winners, and even one of my favourite movies ever!

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    I like The King’s Speech, but it’s dominance was a little odd although none of the films were really deserving in my opinion. I thought TKS was great and was worthy, but The Social Network was a better made film, though I don’t have any passion for it. TKS made me feel good, and I guess that’s why I prefer it winning.  

     I think Slumdog is a great film, although I would have preferred Milk winning.  I do agree that the hate for it is based on it’s total dominence of the race that year: It literally swept everything.  But unlike in 2010, when people clearly favor TSN more then any other nominee, i don’t see any nominee loved that year. Milk I guess?  Or am I wrong?  

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    #143829

    i love slumdog still. TKS is ok, but it does feel a little like a TV movie to me, and The Artist i remain sort of indifferent to. it just didn’t stay with me and i never felt the need to see it again

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    #143830

    The King’s Speech survives nowadays in people’s memory just because “it was the movie that beat The Social Network” … had it won without TSN having existed it would most certainly be now forgotten.

    And Slumdog … I can understand if voters couldn’t buy Benjamin’s Button fantasy arc and couldn’t embrace it, but NO WAY IN HELL it deserved 8, 8! trophies that year. That was way too much.

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