Home Forums Movies why do child actors get supporting nominations for lead roles?

why do child actors get supporting nominations for lead roles?

CREATE A NEW TOPIC
CREATE A NEW POLL
Viewing 14 posts - 1 through 14 (of 14 total)
Created
2 years ago
Last Reply
2 years ago
13
replies
976
views
12
users
Choice Chayawat
2
babypook
1
ETPhoneHome
1
  • FreemanGriffin
    Participant
    Joined:
    Feb 19th, 2012
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #196064

    Tatum O’Neal, Hailee Steinfeld, Haley Joel Osment, Mary Badham, Patty Duke, Anna Pacquin, Abigail Breslin, Timothy Hutton – all leads or co-leads in their films (in the golden age, young actors got miniature Oscars)

    Jason Tremblay is clearly a lead actor in Room yet he is being touted for Supporting Actor.  Can’t the governing board simply stop all the catgegory fraud this year and overrule all these ridiculous category placements? (Tremblay and Mara are the glaring ones, but also Paul Dano – I would love for him to get a nomination but he is truly the co-lead in Love & Mercy). I know these are two different subjects, child actors almost always in the wrong category (Justin Henry was correctly a Supporting Actor, as was Jodie Foster in Taxi Driver), and all the category fraud this year…. can academy members decide to place Tremblay in Lead? How is the ballot put together and why do the producers of the movies seem to have the final say-so???

    Reply
    Anonymous
    Joined:
    Jan 1st, 1970
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #196066

    We can argue some of these, such as Abigail Breslin and Anna Paquin (I would consider both supporting), but Hailee Steinfeld’s nomination is a JOKE in supporting. She was in EVERY SINGLE SCENE. And not as a secondary character, but as a lead one. I don’t know why there isn’t a rule for this. Like if you are in the movie as a centric character with plenty of screentime, you simply cannot be nominated in supporting. This rule would not let child actors, or any actors for that matter (Christoph Waltz in Django Unchained or Rooney Mara, Alicia Wikander this year – everyone?) compete in supporting.

    I just feel like we are bashing Jacki Weaver’s Silver Linings Playbook nomination a lot, but in the end, her performance is truly the supporting one, the real supporting one, and category is for performances like hers, not performances like Steinfeld’s.

    ReplyCopy URL
    Choice Chayawat
    Participant
    Joined:
    Jul 2nd, 2011
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #196067

    Child/teenage actors in a leading role tend to go supporting when they have an adult actor fronted as a lead. Quvenzhane Wallis and Keisha Castle-Hughes had no adult actor to hide behind, so they had to go lead.

    If a huge star and Oscar winner like Julia Roberts is forced to go supporting, then there is no hope for this to be fixed. Category fraud is alive and well!

    ReplyCopy URL
    ETPhoneHome
    Participant
    Joined:
    Jan 3rd, 2013
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #196068

    It’s always been a problem with the Oscars, and the most egregious example is by far Timothy Hutton for me. I don’t understand who they thought the lead of Ordinary People was, because there is no way around the fact that he was the central character. Hailee Steinfeld at least had the precedent of John Wayne’s lead win to fall back on. She was without a doubt a co-lead, and could honestly have been nominated in lead if they’d taken the chance. Haven’t seen Tremblay yet, so I’ll reserve judgment, but everything I’ve heard points to him being a proper lead, though there’s probably no way he would get in there this year.

    ReplyCopy URL
    Anonymous
    Joined:
    Jan 1st, 1970
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #196069

    Timothy Hutton was 20 when he won the Best Supporting Actor Oscar. Playing an adolescent is different than being one.

    ReplyCopy URL
    Zooey the Dreamer
    Participant
    Joined:
    Jan 12th, 2012
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #196070

    Hailee was just as lead as Timothy Hutton. And unlike Hutton, her performance was hammy. 

    ReplyCopy URL
    Kristen Boyer
    Participant
    Joined:
    Dec 13th, 2012
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #196071

    I agree that Jacob Tremblay going for supporting is a joke. I have not seen the movie yet but if it is like the book then he should be in pratically every scene and it is Ma (Brie) who goes off the screen for a bit. If anyone she should be supporting.

    Sigh. Well, if this helps the kid get a nomination then I guess I will stop bitching but it is freud for sure. 

    ReplyCopy URL
    Tye-Grr
    Member
    Joined:
    Nov 5th, 2010
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #196072

    First of all, his name is Jacob Tremblay, not Jason. 

    Second, as others have said already, it’s easier to get a kid nominated in supporting versus leading, and I imagine they find it easier to justify when there is another name adult actor in a co-lead role that they can push in that category.

    I definitely don’t think it’s right to fraud a leading role as supporting just because they’re a kid, but I can see why studios would take advantage of that when campaiging.  

    ReplyCopy URL
    PJ Edwards
    Participant
    Joined:
    Jun 2nd, 2011
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #196073

    Agree that Tremblay is lead in Room but don’t have much issue in category placement. He is just a kid. The way they vote for best actor is to vote for the biggest names carrying the biggest films in the biggest roles. Maybe if voting patterns were different I’d be upset about a kid not being campaigned correctly but this is Hollywood, the land of make believe.

    ReplyCopy URL
    seabel
    Participant
    Joined:
    Nov 21st, 2012
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #196074

    Because:

    1. Supporting is easier category to get the nomination
    2. It’s not the same 2-Oscar nominee movie than 3-Oscar nominee movie
    3. Politics
    4. It all translates in more money for the film

    But if you want a deeper read, take this:

    http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2015/10/what-makes-a-lead-actor/410617/ 

    ReplyCopy URL
    Baby Clyde
    Participant
    Joined:
    Nov 8th, 2010
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #196075

    It really hate the way category fraud has become epidemic these days.

    Years ago you used to get the odd person every few years but now it’s an annual event.

    I see no reason why it is left up to the producers to decide placement. It would be perfectly easy for the step in an adjudicate on contentious roles.

    ReplyCopy URL
    CanadianFan
    Participant
    Joined:
    Jul 23rd, 2012
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #196076

    Love this topic.

    I was stunned when I watched ‘Ordinary People’ and read that Hutton won supporting. 

    ReplyCopy URL
    babypook
    Participant
    Joined:
    Nov 4th, 2010
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #196077

    Supporting is the ageist “ghettoization” of minors and very young actors. It sucks, really. And it spills over all the freaking time.

    Until the Academy actually writes down some ‘rules’ of this category game,  and would I ever love to be a fly on the wall for that meeting of brainiacs, it isnt going to change anytime soon.

    ReplyCopy URL
    Choice Chayawat
    Participant
    Joined:
    Jul 2nd, 2011
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #196078

    Keisha Castle-Hughes was actually campaigned as a supporting actress and nominated for SAG there. It was a rare occasion that the Academy didn’t buy that cheating placement and correctly put her in leading actress. In the same year, Evan Rachel Wood in Thirteen had been touted as a leading actress all season long and almost got nominated for Oscar. I wonder if Holly Hunter hadn’t been a contender in supporting actress, would there have been an attempt to put Wood there?
     

    ReplyCopy URL
Viewing 14 posts - 1 through 14 (of 14 total)
Reply To: why do child actors get supporting nominations for lead roles?

You can use BBCodes to format your content.
Your account can't use Advanced BBCodes, they will be stripped before saving.

Similar Topics
Joe Burns - Dec 13, 2017
Movies
Owl-Alw... - Dec 12, 2017
Movies