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Why Foreign Language Nominated Performers are always Caucasian?

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  • ENGLAND
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    I normally try to avoid racism talk during award season but why is it that most, if not all performances that are non-English come from white actors? This is something I am just now realizing. There are incredible performances by Asian, African, Latin American, and Middle Eatsern actors but its seems to be only white Europeans who are nominated. They nominated Marion Cotillard twice (well deserved btw) for French films. But they are scared to nominate a actor of color in a foreign language film. How come the actors from “Crouching Tiger” were snubbed? Their film made it to a Best Picture nominee. Javier Bardem is from Spain but he is a Caucasian. Out of all the incredible foreign-language performances in 2012, Emmanuelle Riva’s dry ass performance was nominated? Now, some people are predicting Isabelle Huppert, but not many are mentioning the Cannes Film winner Jaclyn Jose.

    I don’t want to call this racism, but I think people need to become more open minded. There are talented colored actors in foreign language films as well.

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    sofan
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    This is the same Academy that didn’t even nominate domestic POC and you are expecting them to be open to nominating POC from other countries?

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    According to your definition, Catalina Sandino Moreno would qualify as caucasian too? Asking for a friend.

    Now, some people are predicting Isabelle Huppert, but not many are mentioning the Cannes Film winner Jaclyn Jose.

    Because that was a pathetic award. The only people who thought Jose was worthy of any kind of accolades were on that jury. And Huppert is the hardest working actor (male or female) in the world today. That she’s never received an Oscar nomination makes a joke out of the Oscars. And she’s absolutely magnificent in Elle.

    Out of all the incredible foreign-language performances in 2012, Emmanuelle Riva’s dry ass performance was nominated?

    I swear I always try to stay calm and cool, but… Fuck off.

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    AugB
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    This is the same Academy that didn’t even nominate domestic POC and you are expecting them to be open to nominating POC from other countries?

    More than that, do you expect they’ll largely see these countries’ films? They let go great stuff done in their own country that simply is not campaigned…

    The point is European films have ‘prestige’ and, generally, the language is similar. So, once in a while, one of them get great repercussion, people see it and vote for it. And Europe has lots of… white people.

    But is has to be said: Latin American Fernanda Montenegro was nominated for Central Station, but, yes, she’s white as well. There’s Catalina Sandino Moreno, though.

    About Jaclyn Jose, her performance was not one of the most talked about in Cannes – Huppert, Braga and the American Honey lead were way more buzzed. Her victory was a surprise, although I read somewhere the Jury seemed really happy on giving it to her.

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    If you consider Javier Bardem a Caucasian because he is light-skinned , then what does that make even lighter-skinned Jaclyn Jose? You might want to refine your definition of “white actors”. Foreign is foreign. Whether they are black, dark or light-skinned. Or just go by nationality instead of skin colour?

    And thank you for the great topic. I agree with you. And I lay the blame fully on critics. They have been responsible for making these films and performances happen for years now. They do it every year. And yet they always seem to clamor for the predictable and well known.

    Now, regarding that Emmanuelle Riva comment: You best step back and check yo self. The performance might not have been for you, but it was amazing.

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    ENGLAND
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    Javier Bardem like many from Spain are considered Caucasian. Yes the language is Spanish but he is Caucasian.

    Catalina Sandino Moreno is one in a million (I actually forgot about her). Jaclyn Jose was just an example. I can talk about the many Cannes Film Awarded performances that are ignored.

    Gus Cruz… grow the hell up. Emmanuella Riva was not that good. The year she was nominated was absolutely horrible.

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    England white America does not see Javier as white.

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    ENGLAND
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    He has played non Spanish, white men in multiple films.

    I remember having this conversation with someone who was trying to tell me Gisele Bundchen was not white. Just because you come from another country does not make you another race. Do we consider Charlize Theron black?

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    Marco B.
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    As someone much wiser that me said, when asked wheter truth was subjective or objective, “truth is intersubjective”. You have every right to dislike Emanuelle Riva performance in Amour, but 99,99999% of those who watched the film agreed that she was fantastic. Personally, I felt devasted at the end of the movie and Emanuelle Riva is the first person I had to thank for giving me such intense emotions.

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    Riley
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    There is never 99.99999% consensus.

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    ENGLAND
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    Even if you like Riva, what about the other years with the snubs.

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    Entertain-me
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    You forgot:

    * Haing S. Ngor (The Killing Fields)
    * Sessue Hayakawa (The Bridge on the River Kwai)
    * Rinko Kikuchi (Babel) – Japanese sign language
    * Adriana Barraza (Babel)

    Can anyone remember if any of the following performances had any foreign-language components:

    * Djimon Hounsou (Blood Diamond)
    * Demian Bichir (A Better Life)
    * Miyoshi Umeki (Sayonara)

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    No matter how ridicolous it sounds, it’s about how you look, not the percentage of your ethnicity.

    Someone like Hailee Steinfeld has Asian ascentry but she’ll likely never face the obstacles Nyong’o or say, Dev Patel had to face when they tried to get important roles in the business since she can easily be sold as a white character in any given film . Therefore it’s arguable whether the Academy makes inspiring choices when they nominate minorities who don’t look like minorities.

    Bardem and Cruz cases can go either way, but usually the darker you skin becomes the harder it is for you to get cast in typical roles without the writer having to add specific details to your ethnic background.

    I agree with OP’s sentiment and Ziyi Zhang is the most recent example of that.

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    Riley
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    An eighth Asian and an eighth black, who knew?

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    There is never 99.99999% consensus.

    Except for Citizen Kane LOL! Nah, just kidding, even that one has it’s loud dissenters.

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