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  • Münster
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    The only time during Carol’s promotion that the Best Actress win at Cannes is mentioned was the first US teaser trailer, in which it was NOT specified who actually won it. The subsequent promotional materials, including the official trailer and all the posters did not even include a Cannes logo.

    The most bizarre thing however, is the cast bios on the official website (carolfilm.com). In Blanchett’s bio, all the major awards she won for Blue Jasmine and The Aviator are listed. In starking contrast, no mentions of Mara’s Cannes win or even her Oscar nomination for Dragon Tattoo were being made in Mara’s bio.

    What is Harvey’s logic behind this I wonder? Is he intentionally undermining Mara’s chances in favor of Blanchett? The whole thing just makes no sense.

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    Zooey the Dreamer
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    He’s no dumb man. By now he should be aware that even in lead, Mara’s chances are much bigger than Blanchett’s. Mara is “the heart of Carol”. And her Cannes win is a huge thing. Maybe he was pushing Blanchett back then or maybe it was a clause in her contract, who knows! But by now Weinstein would be smart to push Mara in lead. And given that the HFPA always does what Harvey wants, I believe that maybe Harvey wants Mara in lead now. Yes, she probably won’t beat Larson but maybe she could be a threat. 
    And yes, Mara is the best thing about Carol. 

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    Mladen Vukcevic
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    I don’t think he was hiding Mara’s achievements but I agree it is a bit strange. The decision was made that Blanchett goes to lead, Mara to supporting category and according to that, they behaved. The thing is that Mara has little to no problem winning Supporting, but in the Leas she is, just as Blanchett (only in different ways) vulnerable. Simply, between Larson and Lawrence and possible split of votes between her and Blanchett in Lead, with Blanchett having a bit more outspoken role, her chances in Lead are nowhere close to her chances in Supporting. And somehow I believe that Mara and Weinstein agreed that Oscar in Supporting is worthier prize than nomination in Lead. 

    I simply don’t see how is the “good” strategy to push Mara Lead at this point. If we are in March or April, yeah… But now? It would be catastrophic for all parties involved. 

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    Sasha
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    ^ ‘Good’ strategy? It’s called decency! I just can’t with people like you… just can’t…

    [img]http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt279/Minimanolo/slnvb9.gif[/img]

    As for Harvey himself, everyone here knows my opinion about him. I fucking despise him. Even more so than The Anointed One. Yup, that’s how much I despise him.

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    Guys, I think this year Mara will end up in lead and it will be the youngest best actress category ever. Ronan, Larson, Vikander, Mara, and Lawrence. I just think that because the ols hemmorrhoids of the academy love their “hot” rising female actors that they will see so many strong young performers they will nominate them instead.

    Old men panties will fly in the air, taken by the wind, before gently soaring beyond the clouds. This will be for the five young women. Cases can be made for Blunt, Mulligan, or even Schumer will go along for this ride, but it really looks like Brie Larson, Jennifer Lawrence, Alicia Vikander, Rooney Mara (she will be lead and she will take the crown away from Blanchett herself), and Saoirse Ronan will be the nominees.

    Old men panties. 

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    manakamana
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    Her performance is brilliant, but so much more quiet and subtle than Blanchett’s. I love them both in the film, but Rooney’s was always the harder sell to voters by design. But I hate this idea that people defend the strategy of putting her in supporting. No, stop it. She’s lead.

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    FreemanGriffin
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    I disagree that they will only nominate younger actresses in lead this year. Either Rampling or Smith will make the final five (I call it the older brit woman slot!) I also have the feeling Vikander will stay in the supporting category. I am SO glad that Mara will compete in lead and I am leaning towards her getting a nomination and Blanchett missing out – only due to the fact that there are so many worthy nominees this year in Best Actress that it’s going to be inevitable that great performances aren’t going to make it in. I also think when academy voters see Julia Roberts performance, she’s going to enter the conversation more. Personally I think they should just decide to have more than five nominees this year and expand it to 8 (; There would still be major snubs!  At the moment I’m predicting Larson, Lawrence, Mara, Ronan and Smith, but am really hoping Rampling makes it in there somehow too.

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    babypook
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    I dont think Harvey is actively trying to undermine Ms Rooney. He’s got dollar signs in his eyes, which he’s very good at.

    Blanchett=most of us knows who she is=$

    Mara=who? Lol.

    Fools. Put her in Lead, where she belongs.

    ETA: Btw, a Cannes win, which is marvelous, translates into Oscar wins just slightly better than coincidence.

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    Zooey the Dreamer
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    Guys, I think this year Mara will end up in lead and it will be the youngest best actress category ever. Ronan, Larson, Vikander, Mara, and Lawrence. I just think that because the ols hemmorrhoids of the academy love their “hot” rising female actors that they will see so many strong young performers they will nominate them instead.

    Old men panties will fly in the air, taken by the wind, before gently soaring beyond the clouds. This will be for the five young women. Cases can be made for Blunt, Mulligan, or even Schumer will go along for this ride, but it really looks like Brie Larson, Jennifer Lawrence, Alicia Vikander, Rooney Mara (she will be lead and she will take the crown away from Blanchett herself), and Saoirse Ronan will be the nominees.

    Old men panties. 

    I have a feeling Joy will bomb. It first moved to drama, then it wats to go back to comedy/musical at the Globes. Why? Maybe its studio doesn’t believe it can do much in drama. Anyway, I expect critics to be mean to it.

    And if the preferential voting that’s used when countig Oscar nominations helps anybody, it’s Charlotte Rampling. I expect her to be among the top five. She’s overdue and that has been said countless times. Oscar voters are aware of that. The work is terrific. She’s a great actor and her time has come. Of the younger actresses, it’s Larson as the lock at this point. Ronan is the other contender who’s close to a lock. People love the performance and the film, which is always a strong combination. And the film’s old-fashioned storytelling is the Academy’s cup of tea. Strangely, critcs are charmed as well. I believe that with Mara and Blanchett in the same category, Mara will be the one to get more attention. Especially given the nature of her role. Yes, it’s not showy but she’s the heart of the film, the one you really feel for. And Vikander will probably be a lock by Oscar night. I expect her to manage a nomination (maybe even a win) at the Globes. She’ll manage a BAFTA nomination and maybe the Oscars will put her in leading. 

    1. Brie Larson
    2. Saoirse Ronan
    3. Charotte Rampling
    4. Rooney Mara
    5. Alicia Vikander
    6. Lily Tomlin
    7. Cate Blanchett

    If either Mara or Vikander goes supporting, Tomlin or Blanchett are in a good position to crack the list.
     

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    Zooey the Dreamer
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    [quote=”babypook”]

    I dont think Harvey is actively trying to undermine Ms Rooney. He’s got dollar signs in his eyes, which he’s very good at.

    Blanchett=most of us knows who she is=$

    Mara=who? Lol.

    Fools. Put her in Lead, where she belongs.

    ETA: Btw, a Cannes win, which is marvelous, translates into Oscar wins just slightly better than coincidence.

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    The Cannes win in itself doesn’t matter as a precursor. Here, it does matter though, because Mara defeated her co-star who was considered and publicized as the true lead of Carol.   

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    babypook
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    [quote=”babypook”]

    [quote=”babypook”]

    I dont think Harvey is actively trying to undermine Ms Rooney. He’s got dollar signs in his eyes, which he’s very good at.

    Blanchett=most of us knows who she is=$

    Mara=who? Lol.

    Fools. Put her in Lead, where she belongs.

    ETA: Btw, a Cannes win, which is marvelous, translates into Oscar wins just slightly better than coincidence.

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    The Cannes win in itself doesn’t matter as a precursor. Here, it does matter though, because Mara defeated her co-star who was considered and publicized as the true lead of Carol.   
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    There arent any ‘rules’ set out for this, but she is. She’s about as Supporting as Casey Affleck in TAofJJbtCRF.

    I wasnt sure if she’ll remain in Supporting, especially early on. Now, I think she lands there, inspite of everything. I hope I’m wrong. Mara, is actually an amazing talent. Now, let her do something comedic for a change….

     

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    Jakob Liam Kristensen
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    #198257

    Between the two ladies, Mara is the by far more likely to score a win in either category. And it’s not like Blanchett needs any extra push to secure a nomination. No idea what Harvey is thinking.

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    Mladen Vukcevic
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    ^ ‘Good’ strategy? It’s called decency! I just can’t with people like you… just can’t…

    [img]http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt279/Minimanolo/slnvb9.gif[/img]

    As for Harvey himself, everyone here knows my opinion about him. I fucking despise him. Even more so than The Anointed One. Yup, that’s how much I despise him.

    Are we seriously talking about decency here? Of course, it would be f***king decent and normal for both of them to be lead. But, alas, we don’t live in such world… I was speaking of what makes sense strategy-wise, not what would be decent. It is not about defending it, just seeing for what it is.

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    Jaqen H’ghar
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    Was there ever talk of one of the women of Thelma & Louise and/or The Kids Are All Right going Supporting? For the former, both Davis and Sarandon received nominations. For the latter, just Bening received the nom (things ended up being okay for Moore). Had there been talk of either of them going Supporting, it would have been laughable. Are Blanchett/Mara as equally leading as Davis/Sarandon and Bening/Moore?? (Have not seen it yet.)

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    manakamana
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    But even compared to most category fraud that has ever happened, putting Rooney in supporting would be on a whole other level. There is literally no justification for it whatsoever. Dev Patel’s supporting campaign for Slumdog had more merit.

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