January 31, 2012 at 6:11 pm #53842
USA Today is doing a big feature on all of the nominees overdue for Oscars — there’s a huge bunch of them this year: Glenn Close, Brad Pitt, Max von Sydow, Gary Oldman, Christopher Plummer — even Meryl Streep (Overdue in the sense that she’s lost for the past 29 years).
They’ve asked us for some insight on this phenom this year. They planning to check in with me on Friday. What should I say on behalf of GD? Why do you think we have so many this year?
Why do you think these stars have never won and what past role you think they SHOULD’VE WON for — whether or not they were even nominated:
Max Von Sydow
Meryl StreepJanuary 31, 2012 at 6:33 pm #53844
Meryl Streep – Topic has been covered heavily to death on all these forums, but I will just say she should’ve won for The French Lieutenant’s Woman, A Cry in the Dark, and Julie & Julia.
Brad Pitt – Should’ve won for 12 Monkeys
Glenn Close – World According to Garp and Dangerous LiasonsJanuary 31, 2012 at 6:53 pm #53845
Would Williams be considered overdue?January 31, 2012 at 6:58 pm #53846
“Why do you think we have so many this year? “
Glenn: She could have won for Dangerous Liasons and Fatal Attraction, but I loved her in a role she wasnt nominated for, as Sonny von Bulow.
Brad: I would have given him a nomination for ToL. He could have been nominated with the supporting actresses in Babel, as well as Se7en, Spy Game, Snatch, and his nominations were/are deserved.
Gary: He’s mostly great in everything. He missed a nomination for Immortal Beloved, and he created an unforgettable character and thug in True Romance.
Christopher: I would have given him the win for The Last Station, over Christoph Waltz; terrific as Oedipus. He’s great in everything, imo.
Max: He could have won for Pelle the Conqueror, but the timing was off, as oft happens with FLF’s. Love his work in most everything, including Voyage of the Damned, and Needful Things. Everything.
Nick: I think he’s great in everything. He could have won for Prince of Tides, but nobody was going to beat Anthony Hopkins that year. I would have given him a nomination for Hotel Rwanda, Down and Out in Beverly Hills, and Under Fire.
Kenneth: He’s was very good in Henry V, but I think he should stick with directing. Jmho.
Meryl: I would have given the Oscar to Meryl for A Cry in the Dark. She’s magnificent here. She was also deserving in The Bridges of Madison County; such a subtle perf, and also J&J, where she playes such a distinct character and was more deserving of the win than the actor who won.
Why didnt they win?
Lol! I’d time out if I started on that question. Seriously.January 31, 2012 at 7:10 pm #53847
Glenn Close – Dangerous Liasons
Brad Pitt- He’s best performance is his portrayal of Jesse James but he wasn’t better then daniel day-lewis that year. I think he should win this year actually because he’s better then everyone he’s nominated alongside. He’s never won because people saw him a pretty boy and didnt think there was any substance their but they clearly wrong.
Christopher Plummer – The Insider, he was just as good as Michael Caine in The Cider House Rules
Nick Nolte – Should have won for Affliction, he was much better then Roberto Benigni. His past demans have got to be the reason he hasnt won because it can’t be that his acting isn’t good enough cause it sure is.
Meryl Streep – Should have won for A Cry In The Dark, Adaptation, Doubt (since Winslet wasn’t nominated for Revolutionary Road). She doesnt win because there is this ongoing sentiment “oh will honour her next time” but they never do and thats why almost 3 decades has gone by.January 31, 2012 at 7:15 pm #53848
Close: Garp was her best shot, but it was her first film and people probably thought she’d have better chances, even though her competition got increasingly tougher
Pitt: hasn’t done Oscar-worthy work yet as far as I’m concerned
Oldman: still overdue from Sid and Nancy
Plummer: The Insider, but the “overdue” stuff goes back to The Sound of Music days
Von Sydow: has had Oscar buzz since The Seventh Seal, but I think it’s more of a general appreciation than a “he wuz robbed” feel
Nolte: The Prince of Tides!
Branagh: Henry V, and he’s aped Olivier so many times with his subsequent Shakespeare that this nod seems inevitable in hindsight
Streep: this is the first time I’ve been on the “Streep deserves a 3rd now” train, but I think she’s also deserved it in recent years for One True Thing, The Hours, and DoubtJanuary 31, 2012 at 7:16 pm #53849
Gary Oldman would have made a fine winner for 1986’s Sid and Nancy.January 31, 2012 at 7:23 pm #53850
I feel there are two reasons for so many overdue stars being nominated. The first is AMPAS’ tendency to reward flavor of the moment performers (Adrien Brody for The Pianist or Jennifer Hudson for Dreamgirls) or bestowing multiple Oscars on the same performer (Streep, Swank, Caine, for instance). If AMPAS would stop both of those practices, there would not be nearly as many overdue stars. In my opinion, there is no way that Streep is overdue. She has already been rewarded. If she wins again, AMPAS will merely add more names to the overdue list.January 31, 2012 at 7:31 pm #53851
There’s no rhyme or reason to why so many stars movie-lovers consider due for a win have turned up this year. I mean, if our Tom can’t discern a pattern then there isn’t one. It’s just one of the weird and wonderful quirks of Oscar that we occasionally get years like this one.
It may not be the same thing, but take the year (1990, 63rd show) Whoopi Goldberg, Joe Pesci, Kathy Bates and Jeremy Irons all won their Oscars. That’s one of those years where journeyman actors had their moment in the sun. None of them were A-list stars. But it made for a great night for movie-lovers to see these long-overdue character actors receive their accolades.
Quibble: Brad Pitt isn’t overdue by a long shot. He’s got the world on a string. His situation in no way compares to someone like Gary Oldman, who has been giving insanely good performances for decades and has been consistently overlooked. I don’t think you’re overdue if you’ve already got two nominations under your belt.
Adore Meryl Streep, but I feel the same way about her. Few actors in La-La Land are as celebrated as she. Doesn’t compare to someone like Viola Davis, a brilliant character actor who hit it out of the park on her first (!) leading role.January 31, 2012 at 7:39 pm #53852
Stunt casting has given a lot of parts to veterans this past year. Not every year can be like 2009-2010 when so many fresh faces like Carey Mulligan, Gabby Sidibe, Anna Kendrick, Jeremy Renner, Maggie Gyllenhaal and even Colin Firth and Sandra Bullock got recognized for the first time.
Pitt is the least overdue of the ones you listed. It’s only his third nomination, and as long as David Fincher is alive, he will always have a shot to come back and take it. Maybe when he’s in his 80’s he’ll pull a Christopher Plummer.
Streep should have four Oscars and win a fifth this year. She deserved it for the ones she won for, as well as for Doubt (Winslet should have supporting for The Reader) and for A Cry in the Dark. As much as she deserved it for J&J, Sandra Bullock really was fantastic.
In my opinion, Streep will never make another movie like Doubt. That movie had a fantastic plot, fantastic writing and a stellar cast. How it lost the SAG to Slumdog is beyond me. If she had won for that but lost for every other role after, I’d be fine knowing that her final win was for an amazing performance.January 31, 2012 at 8:06 pm #53853
Some are just victims of intense competition like Meryl (who was up against a more overdue actress (Kate Winslet, Helen Mirren) and someone who is a Hollywood sweetheart that they love to reward ever now and then (Sandra Bullock).
In the case of Glenn, we all know her biggest shots were Dangerous Liaisons and Fatal Attraction, but we all know how much AMPAS love them it babes, thus Cher and Jodie Foster won.
Kenneth Branagh is not the type of actor that AMPAS usually nominates (see all his nominations are for different categories) in the acting categories, so people don’t feel that he is “due” enough.
Plummer will be winning one soon.Nolte, von Sydow, and Pitt were simply nominated in years where the main competition didn’t include them. As a matter of fact, I’d argue that Pitt is overdue now. He’s just on his third nomination, and between Tree of Life and Moneyball, and some producer duties, you know AMPAS has his name on waiting list.
Oldman, is the person who’s overdue in terms of nominations. But I guess that’s what people’s perception is with him. He’s overdue for a nomination, but not a win.January 31, 2012 at 8:46 pm #53854
I dont see most of the people listed as “overdue.”
Close is since she had two winning performances that lost plus the rest of her nominations.
Pitt turned in good work but his previous nominations lost to better performances
Oldman was overdue for a nomination that does not mean he’s overdue for a win.
Plummer/Von Sydow Long storied careers but I dont know if that means you deserve an Oscar
Nolte See above
Branagh Not overdue
Streep Anyone that has two Oscars is not overdue. I’ll take Meryl’s attitude: a 3rd would wonderful be she’s not pinning for it and neither should anyone else.January 31, 2012 at 8:52 pm #53855
Hmmm…. they’re only overdue if you can make a solid case that they should have won for a previous year (based on their competition) but lost. Just because an actor puts out consistent solid work, doesn’t always make them overdue, because somebody could have done better work that year.January 31, 2012 at 10:11 pm #53856
Kenneth Branagh and Brad Pitt are not even close to be overdue like these other actors :
Glenn Close – She should’ve 3 Oscars – Garp, Fatal Attraction and Dangerous Liaisons and the reasons that she couldn’t win even in Best Picture nominees is beyond me, lose for Cher make me laugh.
Gary Oldman – Sid and Nancy, True Romance, Dracula… how TTSS could be his first nomination?
Christopher Plummer – The Insider. period.
Max Von Sydow – One of the best actors of all time have only 2 nominations?? Even in Best Picture nominees like The Exorcist he was snubbed, outrageous! I really hope AMPAS make things right and give to him the Oscar for ELIC
Nick Nolte – Amazing actor, could’ve won in his 2 nominations
Meryl Streep – A living legend, should’ve take the prize for Kramer vs. Kramer, Sophie’s Choice, Bridges of Madison County and Doubt and if she had submited in supporting for Devil should’ve won too.February 1, 2012 at 11:55 am #53857
I would gladly replace Streep’s Oscar wins with her performances in A Cry in the Dark and Bridges of Madison County (and perhaps that would make her biggest fans happy – two leading Oscars). I preferred Hemingway (Manhattan), Andrews (Victor Victoria), and Lange (Frances) to her KvK and SC performances. When I look at Close’s nominations I see a lot of worthy performances, but I’ve also found that I prefer at least one other nominee each time. If she never wins for a competitive part, I’d definitely give her an honorary award.