April 11, 2014 at 11:09 am #150846
If Gravity can’t do it (I know, “it’s not a sci-fi film” per se, but just bear with me), then can any sci-fi film ever win Best Picture, including this year’s Interstellar if it’s a hit?April 11, 2014 at 11:12 am #150848
I’m full of old sayings lately but “given enough time, anything you can imagine, will happen”
I’m tempted to take a few shots at the collective psyche/intelligence/tastes of society but I wont; unless I’m provoked. Lol.
Interesting thinking of what sci-fi film will do it, but I dont see anything Oscar-friendly (dumbed down) right now.April 11, 2014 at 11:33 am #150849
Gravity is science fiction. Apollo 13 is docudrama.April 11, 2014 at 1:31 pm #150850
Interstellar? Maybe. Anything else in the near future? Not that I can see.
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I think it’ll happen eventually. With films like “Gravity” and “Inception” and even “The Dark Knight” (most superhero movies have some element of sci-fi) doing well at the Oscars — despite major category snubs in some cases — it’s only a matter of time before one clicks. It might take the same intersection of art and commerce that got “The Lord of the Rings” over the finish line. Goodness knows “Gravity” probably came very, very close.April 11, 2014 at 3:54 pm #150852
Gravity didn’t do it because of 12 Years a Slave. I don’t think it’s a big hurdle now. Certainly, Graivty would’ve won if it weren’t for the other frontrunner. Sci-fi-/ish films with mass appeal + critical backing generally won’t have a hard time at the Oscars. The fact that Gravity was a serious frontrunner and had many voters that were fans of it says something.April 11, 2014 at 7:09 pm #150853
Gravity was definitely in second and if 12 Years a Slave had not come out, it would have won. It actually almost did, seeing as it tied for PGA. So sci-fi can certainly win.April 11, 2014 at 7:52 pm #150854
Well, Star Wars came really close. A lot of industry people wanted that for Lucas. And now Gravity this year. It could happen sooner than we think if that right film and right competition come along. It just would need to have across the board appeal; bottom-up support in techs; an acting nomination; a screenplay nomination; and storytelling that transcends the genre. The Lord of the Rings comparison makes a lot of sense. Unfortunately, a 2001 or Blade Runner type stands zero chance of winning.April 11, 2014 at 10:33 pm #150855
Interstellar is my prediction for BP this year and will remain my prediction until at least September. I really think it can win, and, unless something else gets amazing buzz or the film doesn’t click, I don’t see why not.
For a sci-fi to win the stars will have to align just perfectly (pun maybe intended). It happened for Lord of the Rings, it could happen here. Almost happened for Gravity (I don’t think that’s a sci-fi but it was treated as such), but 12 Years a Slave was there so the alignment wasn’t perfect.
I honestly think Nolan, coming off years of acclaim, box office recognition, and some Oscar attention, is in a good position to make it happen if the film lives up to its potential.April 11, 2014 at 10:48 pm #150856
“a screenplay nomination; and storytelling that transcends the genre”
I think that would be the tipping point yes. If Gravity had it (or was perceived to have had it) it might won.April 12, 2014 at 6:47 am #150857
Gravity is science fiction.
No it is not. Gravity is a survival film. It is in the same class of films as 127 Hours. Sci-fi has a meaning, just as do other genres like horror, fantasy, drama, etc. Just because the film was in space and it was fictional doesn’t make it science fiction. The space depicted in the movie was designed to be plausible and near the present. In other words, it was designed to make the viewer think it was potentially real. This automatically disqualifies it from being science fiction.April 12, 2014 at 9:04 pm #150858
A sci-fi film will win Best Picture in the future but when i say future I don’t mean the near future it will take decades for one to win. Now don’t get me wrong, to this day I am just begging for the future to give us a sci-fi film that will win BP without having to struggle with other contenders. And a reason the Academy lags with giving sci-fi a chance is because we end up believing that ‘Yes, in the future a sci-fi film will win. We just dont know yet!’ and so they tell themselves ‘it will happen soon, so let’s vote for this film to win because this film is a year favorite.’ That’s what happened to 12 YAS and Gravity, The Hurt Locker and Avatar (although I don’t think anyone wanted Avatar to win), Star Wars and Annie Hall, etc. It was either a drama film over a sci-fi film. So we are clinging to the idea that ‘it will come later’ and year after year ‘later’ will just never come’. More sci-fi films are being made, and let’s face it. It will take one miracle year for a sci-fi film to not have any contenders against them!April 12, 2014 at 10:04 pm #150859
Gravity isn’t sci-fi. It was crafted to be a realistic experience. But it was close enough to sci-fi to not win BP, which tells me it’s gonna be quite some time before a legitimately sci-fi film takes it.April 12, 2014 at 10:07 pm #150860
Gravity isn’t sci-fi. It was crafted to be a realistic experience. But it was close enough to sci-fi to not win BP, which tells me it’s gonna be quite some time before a legitimately sci-fi film takes it.
How is it not science fiction? The events never happened—all theory—which most science fiction is when it’s not outright fantasy.