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    I really want that someday the AMPAS recognize this genre. What do you think a Sci-Fi movie needs to do to achieve this achievement?

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    With the preferential voting system it will make it harder. The past two winners have been dramas. Moonlight and Spotlight were up against “genre” films like revenge epics, musicals or action blockbusters, yet still won BP when in a non-preferential year the bigger films would have won. The closest the Academy has come to awarding sci-fi is with Star Wars: A New Hope, Mad Max: Fury Road (I believe both came second) and Inception (probably third).

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    It has too happen eventually. I think downsizing could do it. It’s about people that shrink so it’s not too sci-fi. It has an Oscar friendly cast of Alec Baldwin, Matt Damon, Kirsten Wigg and more and it is written and Directed by Alexander Payne. Alexander Payne has never won a directing or BP Oscar so I could easily see a narrative being built atound this movie. It is my most anticipated movie of 2017.

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    Avatar and Gravity were second quite recently, so one will win eventually and maybe very soon.

    Mad Max was clearly fourth and I doubt that Inception would have been nominated in a field of five.

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    Avatar and Gravity were second quite recently, so one will win eventually and maybe very soon. Mad Max was clearly fourth and I doubt that Inception would have been nominated in a field of five.

    do you think honor Alexander Payne’s Downsizing could do it?

    also, I definatley think Mad Max was second. Third at worst.

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    Arrival should have won this year.

    I don’t think Gravity was a sci-fi.

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    I think if a sci-fi is to win it would look more like Benjamin Button than Avatar or Arrival.

    Gravity would have won if 12 Years a Slave hadn’t been released but is debatable whether it’s sci-fi. Avatar finished second but run the season again without The Hurt Locker and I think the consensus forms around something else and Avatar still finishes second. Mad Max was definitely behind The Revenant and The Big Short and not that close.

    The conditions would have to be just right. It would have to be a slam dunk winner, if the narrative becomes sci-fi vs drama the preferential ballot is going to make sure the drama always wins.

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    “Gravity” was super close. “Arrival” was well-received. It’ll happen eventually. Rules are meant to be broken, and I feel that this “new” Academy is ripe to do that in the future.

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    The genre will get nominations, but winning BP will remain a Sisyphean task. If the Academy Awards continue in something resembling current form long enough, eventually one will probably win. The basic problem is sci-fi not being taken as seriously as other drama sub-genre. They’re considered by many to be summer blockbuster tentpole popcorn movies for teens, not adults. Sci-fi movies are invariably crafted for a PG-13 to include the teen market demographic. How important is an “R” rating? Since 1984 when MPAA created the PG-13 rating, twice as many films have a R rating as all the other four ratings combined. Should be clear that a PG-13 film had best be extremely special to get any consideration, and a PG must be absolutely spectacular. Abandon all hope for a G or NC-17 film. Within the past 10 years, there’s been only one PG-13 film, The Artist (2011). The other nine are all R rated. The last PG winner was Driving Miss Daisy (1989).
    0 – NC-17 (X until 1991)
    22 – R
    9 – PG-13 (created in 1984)
    2 – PG
    0 – G
    Last but not least, major franchises like Star Trek and Star Wars having large cult followings doesn’t help generate an image that would garner BP votes.

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    If Annihilation has the same standard of filmmaking as Ex Machina did, which I predict it will due to the same team, I think it has a good chance.

    The book was brilliant and I expect the film to be as well.

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    If Annihilation has the same standard of filmmaking as Ex Machina did, which I predict it will due to the same team, I think it has a good chance.

    The book was brilliant and I expect the film to be as well.

    I’m looking forward to its release. Wikipedia shows it Has Alex Garland, the same writer/director as Ex Machina, a movie that should have had a BP nomination.

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    Hoping Annihilation is great, especially for Natalie.

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    I think if a sci-fi is to win it would look more like Benjamin Button than Avatar or Arrival.

    Gravity would have won if 12 Years a Slave hadn’t been released but is debatable whether it’s sci-fi. Avatar finished second but run the season again without The Hurt Locker and I think the consensus forms around something else and Avatar still finishes second. Mad Max was definitely behind The Revenant and The Big Short and not that close.

    The conditions would have to be just right. It would have to be a slam dunk winner, if the narrative becomes sci-fi vs drama the preferential ballot is going to make sure the drama always wins.

    I agree.

    …Annihilation is a mediocre mess of a book with half-formed ideas that aren’t original anyway.

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    I don’t think Gravity was a sci-fi.

    You’re right Gravity isn’t a sci-fi. Sci-fi must have one of the following; robots, aliens, time-travel or they have to be set in the future or in a parallel galaxy. Gravity is none of those.

    Avatar finished second but run the season again without The Hurt Locker and I think the consensus forms around something else and Avatar still finishes second.

    Totally agree with this. I think if the Hurt Locker hadn’t happened, it could have been Inglorious Basterds.

    Also, Mad Max was a logical second place, in fact, in every one of it’s categories that it didn’t win for, it is highly likely it came second in; directing, VFX and cinematography. Since it was a technical masterpiece (more than the Revenant), the non-acting branches would have voted highly for it.

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    The genre will get nominations, but winning BP will remain a Sisyphean task. If the Academy Awards continue in something resembling current form long enough, eventually one will probably win. The basic problem is sci-fi not being taken as seriously as other drama sub-genre. They’re considered by many to be summer blockbuster tentpole popcorn movies for teens, not adults. Sci-fi movies are invariably crafted for a PG-13 to include the teen market demographic. How important is an “R” rating? Since 1984 when MPAA created the PG-13 rating, twice as many films have a R rating as all the other four ratings combined. Should be clear that a PG-13 film had best be extremely special to get any consideration, and a PG must be absolutely spectacular. Abandon all hope for a G or NC-17 film. Within the past 10 years, there’s been only one PG-13 film, The Artist (2011). The other nine are all R rated. The last PG winner was Driving Miss Daisy (1989). 0 – NC-17 (X until 1991) 22 – R 9 – PG-13 (created in 1984) 2 – PG 0 – G Last but not least, major franchises like Star Trek and Star Wars having large cult followings doesn’t help generate an image that would garner BP votes. John

    The King Speech was re-rated PG-13. Im not sure if that was before or after the win though.

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