Will Dawn Of The Planet Of The Apes overtake Interstellar

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  • Ryan Lapierre
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    #176087

    I revisited DOTPOTA and I was impressed by the visuals. Will it beat Interstellar and take the oscar?

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    Riley
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    I will be keenly watching to see what takes BAFTA and the guild.  Interstellar has fallen a long way and it may not be done yet.

    Dawn of the Planet of the Apes won Critics’ Choice, but so did Rise of the Planet of the Apes and that lost to Hugo.

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    Leonardo
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    I think GUARDIANS will win this…

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    babypook
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    Well, Guardians does have a Makeup/Hair nomination, but as I feared with Nightcrawler, are the majority of voters open to a sci-fi film (like Apes is)? Afterall, they did give Tom Chambers an “honorary” Award for Apes in ’68.

    There are some wonderful winners in this category, and genre didnt get in the way of rewarding The Fly, Quest for Fire, An American Werewolf in London, Harry and the Hendersons, Beetlejuice, Terminator 2, Bram Stokers Dracula, Nutty Professor, Men in Black, Dr Seuss/Christmas, The Return of the King, Chronicles of Narnia, Pan’s Labyrinth, Ben Button, Star Trek, The Wolfman, Lemony Snicket.

    So it does appear that sci-fi and fantasy doesnt bother the Academy in this category.

    So Apes can win ala ’68, and so can Guardians, which  has that Vx nomination. Both films were overall, well-reviewed. Plus, their box offices.

    Captain America and X-Men could cancel each other out in terms of perception, and Interstellar is the closest thing in this category to “non” sci-fi/fantasy, even though it’s solidly the former.

    Sorry for the diversion but even if Foxcatcher wins Makeup, Guardians can win Visuals. I’d like to see it win both, but Interstellar does have some spectacular visuals, and may be easier to handle for the Academy to reward it here.

     

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    There is a basic cardinal rule for the VFX Oscar–it either goes to the film with (a) the most total nominations, or (b) made the most $$$–preferably both.  

    In the last 20 years, the only times this rule didn’t apply were:

    THE GOLDEN COMPASS beating TRANSFORMERS.
    WHAT DREAMS MAY COME beating ARMAGEDDON
    BABE beating APOLLO 13

    Note that two of those involved Michael Bay, and the third was a head-to-head showdown (only 2 nominees) between two Best Picture contenders.

    Also, the last film to win the category with no other nominations was DEATH BECOMES HER, back in 1992.

    DAWN deserves it, but INTERSTELLAR will win. 

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    CAROL-CHANNING
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    I didn’t like Interstellar’s visual effects at all.  Sure, it’s nice that they didn’t use computers, but all those shots of the side of a spaceship and and obvious picture on a screen in the background spinning around and around wasn’t impressive to me.

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    There is a basic cardinal rule for the VFX Oscar–it either goes to the film with (a) the most total nominations, or (b) made the most $$$–preferably both.  

    In the last 20 years, the only times this rule didn’t apply were:

    THE GOLDEN COMPASS beating TRANSFORMERS.
    WHAT DREAMS MAY COME beating ARMAGEDDON
    BABE beating APOLLO 13

    Note that two of those involved Michael Bay, and the third was a head-to-head showdown (only 2 nominees) between two Best Picture contenders.

    Also, the last film to win the category with no other nominations was DEATH BECOMES HER, back in 1992.

    DAWN deserves it, but INTERSTELLAR will win. 

    Agreed. You’ve said this very succinctly. Interstellar can win THREE Oscars, this and both Sound categories. Production Design likely goes to another film, but Hans Zimmer is no slouch either.

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    DominicCobb
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    It’d be nice for Interstellar to win because it could promote wider use of practical effects, and it does have the most nominations of the bunch. But, yes, its buzz ended up much lower than some thought, and it is not the highest grossing of the bunch. Neither is Apes, though, so I feel like if anything takes it from Interstellar it’ll be Guardians (though the effects in Apes are extraordinary).

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    ETPhoneHome
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    #176096

    Apes is the greatest achievement of the category, and it is also coming as the second VFX nomination for the franchise. I’m predicting it to win, but I won’t be surprised if Interstellar or Guardians takes it instead.

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    babypook
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    Apes is the greatest achievement of the category, and it is also coming as the second VFX nomination for the franchise. I’m predicting it to win, but I won’t be surprised if Interstellar or Guardians takes it instead.

     

    It has a legacy now and a great one. But, I try not to let merit influence me when it comes to trying to figure out what the voting mind is collectively going to do. Lol.

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    It’d be nice for Interstellar to win because it could promote wider use of practical effects, and it does have the most nominations of the bunch. But, yes, its buzz ended up much lower than some thought, and it is not the highest grossing of the bunch. Neither is Apes, though, so I feel like if anything takes it from Interstellar it’ll be Guardians (though the effects in Apes are extraordinary).

    Biggest moneymaker among the VFX nominees

    2013 – IRON MAN 3
    2012 – AVENGERS
    2011 – HP & TDH pt2
    2010 – ALICE IN WONDERLAND
    2009 – AVATAR
    2008 – THE DARK KNIGHT
    2007 – TRANSFORMERS*
    2006 – POTC: DMC
    2005 – TCON: TLTW&TW
    2004 – SPIDER-MAN 2
    2003 – LOTR: ROTK
    2002 – SPIDER-MAN
    2001 – LOTR: FOTR
    2000 – GLADIATOR
    1999 – SW1: TPM
    1998 – ARMAGEDDON*
    1997 – TITANIC
    1996 – INDEPENDENCE DAY
    1995 – APOLLO 13*
    1994 – FORREST GUMP

    Note that the winners (bolded) were also the most nominated among their category that year.   Only three films (*) were the most nominated and didn’t win.
     

     

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    ETPhoneHome
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    [quote=”Tischeo”]Apes is the greatest achievement of the category, and it is also coming as the second VFX nomination for the franchise. I’m predicting it to win, but I won’t be surprised if Interstellar or Guardians takes it instead.

     

    It has a legacy now and a great one. But, I try not to let merit influence me when it comes to trying to figure out what the voting mind is collectively going to do. Lol.

    [/quote]
    Sadly I know that to be true, but deep inside I just can’t get rid of my hope that films win when they truly merit it. It is buried under mounds of cynicism, but it sometimes emerges.

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    babypook
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    [quote=”babypook”]

    [quote=”Tischeo”]Apes is the greatest achievement of the category, and it is also coming as the second VFX nomination for the franchise. I’m predicting it to win, but I won’t be surprised if Interstellar or Guardians takes it instead.

     

    It has a legacy now and a great one. But, I try not to let merit influence me when it comes to trying to figure out what the voting mind is collectively going to do. Lol.

    [/quote]
    Sadly I know that to be true, but deep inside I just can’t get rid of my hope that films win when they truly merit it. It is buried under mounds of cynicism, but it sometimes emerges.[/quote]

     

    My fingers are crossed hard for Apes, which I feel is the very best in this category. I hope it, or Guardians, defeat Interstellar, which is great also in this category; but it’s not a film I’d choose to rewatch again and again.

    Perhaps it’s a good thing that this category appears so close.

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    [quote=”DominicCobb”]It’d be nice for Interstellar to win because it could promote wider use of practical effects, and it does have the most nominations of the bunch. But, yes, its buzz ended up much lower than some thought, and it is not the highest grossing of the bunch. Neither is Apes, though, so I feel like if anything takes it from Interstellar it’ll be Guardians (though the effects in Apes are extraordinary).

    Biggest moneymaker among the VFX nominees

    2013 – IRON MAN 3
    2012 – AVENGERS
    2011 – HP & TDH pt2
    2010 – ALICE IN WONDERLAND
    2009 – AVATAR
    2008 – THE DARK KNIGHT
    2007 – TRANSFORMERS*
    2006 – POTC: DMC
    2005 – TCON: TLTW&TW
    2004 – SPIDER-MAN 2
    2003 – LOTR: ROTK
    2002 – SPIDER-MAN
    2001 – LOTR: FOTR
    2000 – GLADIATOR
    1999 – SW1: TPM
    1998 – ARMAGEDDON*
    1997 – TITANIC
    1996 – INDEPENDENCE DAY
    1995 – APOLLO 13*
    1994 – FORREST GUMP

    Note that the winners (bolded) were also the most nominated among their category that year.   Only three films (*) were the most nominated and didn’t win.
     

     [/quote]

    Weren’t Independence Day and Titanic also winners?

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    babypook
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    Yup.

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