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  • mckenzie
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    #130918

    Do you think some bigger name actors resent at winning in Supporting and then never being ‘overdue’ and getting their Best Actor/Actress Oscar? I’m thinking of Judi Dench, who has lost 4 (possibly soon to be 5) Best Actress nominations after winning in Supporting. Compared with say Sandra Bullock, who if she won a Supporting Oscar earlier in her career there would have been far less need to ‘reward’ her for The Blind Side. Let’s face it, a lot of who wins comes down to how many times you’ve won before and if it’s your turn. Do you think they all want the big one or is an Oscar an Oscar? 

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    campy
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    #130920

    I think it depends on the situation, personally I see it as:
    a. newcomer – will want to secure a nomination more than winning fro the prestige of being an academy award nominee
    b. been nominated once – an actor who was nominated once will still look for an Oscar baity project, to bag the award
    c. always a nominee – just wants to win in any category 
    d. won in supporting – most likely will be satisfied depending on the person, but would aim for a nomination in lead
    e. won in leading – most of them would likely be satisfied already

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    Renaton
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    I think the older generation, like Meryl and Dench, probably care, because they probably still carry that stigma from when they were younger. People like Cate and Weisz? Probably not, for them great roles will be great roles regardless of placement, and might just cherish a win in Supporting as much as Lead. I think that Lead as a more important category than Supporting is an outdated perception, and I don’t think recent generations of actors carry that stigma with them anymore.

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    Gabriel
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    #130922

    It depends. If you’re a newcomer and/or character actor, you’ll take anything you can get. If you’re known for leading roles, but decide for a change to do a supporting role, and end up winning for it, you’ll probably want to keep aiming for a lead one. (E.g. I bet someone like Anne Hathaway is plotting how to go about getting her lead oscar).

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    mse
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    #130923

    I think that Lead as a more important category than Supporting is an outdated perception, and I don’t think recent generations of actors carry that stigma with them anymore.

    Completely agreed. People don’t really make this distinction nowadays. The only real difference comes from the fact that it’s a supporting performance instead of a lead, but if the actor has deemed the role interesting enough to play it in the first place – despite not being the lead – means that they won’t complain if they start winning awards for it.

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    Macbeth
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    #130924

    Well, my opinion is that Hans Landa, Anton Chigurgh and The Joker will be much more memorable winners than King George VI or George Valentin 

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    Renaton
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    Well, my opinion is that Hans Landa, Anton Chigurgh and The Joker will be much more memorable winners than King George VI or George Valentin 

    And I completely agree  

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    It sounds stupid, but for quite a long time I thought when you’re a young actress/actor, you might win your first Oscar in a supporting role and your second a few years later in lead, as a natural “step up”. I was SHOCKED it happened only a few times.

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    #130927

    Sean Connery and Michael Caine would have much rather been nominated for and won for their leading roles—the former’s great collaboration with Sidney Lumet, and films with John Huston and Jean-Jacques Annaud going unnoticed.  Caine is the person most people point to when this conversation comes up about winning in supporting.

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    Renaton
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    #130928

    ^ And Caine is also old and stuck on an outdated vision of the categories.

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    campy
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    #130929

    Really feel bad for Demi Moore and Meg Ryan. They were on their prime then, and that’s usually the time you get your Oscar baity movie. But what happened??? Ghost was good, Meg was also good in When a Man Loves a Woman. Will we ever see Jennifer Aniston and Cameron Diaz nominated? 

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    I hope Sigourney Weaver is able to pull of a Supporting victory soon. There was a project of hers that could have been a leading role that may have earned her a third nomination in that category but it has been halted for the foreseeable. So my hope is that Ridley Scott vehicle actually has some meat for her to showcase her value as one of the best film actresses.

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    KT
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    ^ And Caine is also old and stuck on an outdated vision of the categories.

    Perhaps.  But I think if I were an actor, I’d want to win lead too.  Sure any Oscar is nice, but the lead award would mean more to me due to the competition, especially in Best Actor, a notoriously difficult category to break into and win at a young age (unless you are Daniel Day-Lewis and your Acting with a capital A is undeniable).  So of course, the older guard would share this opinion; I’m also pretty certain some of the younger guard does too, the actors who are in it for the long haul especially—it probably bothered Anne Hathaway to no end that Jennifer Lawrence won Best Actress, and I would think Rachel Weisz and Cate Blanchett would both like the chance to win the lead award.  Also, if Katharine Hepburn were still around, she’d probably say a supporting Oscar doesn’t count (lol). 

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    #130932

    Really feel bad for Demi Moore and Meg Ryan. They were on their prime then, and that’s usually the time you get your Oscar baity movie. But what happened??? Ghost was good, Meg was also good in When a Man Loves a Woman. Will we ever see Jennifer Aniston and Cameron Diaz nominated? 

    We might see Jennifer Aniston nominated when the stars align. She has couple of indie movies coming out next year so who knows. As for my gurl, Cammy D., Academy hates her and she stopped caring about winning awards long time ago (if she ever cared). She prefers her paychecks big and her movies to be fun. There’s no way she’ll ever be nominated.

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    Beau S.
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    #130933

    Supporting actor stopped being a “lesser” category when people like Jack Nicholson, Michael Caine, Sean Connery and Kevin Kline started winning it (I would have added Denzel Washington, though he was still rather unknown when he won). Gene Hackman’s win officially made that viewpoint outdated. Now, with major names like Robin Williams, Morgan Freeman, George Clooney, Javier Bardem, Christian Bale and Heath Ledger (who would have went on to huge stardom had he lived) all having won this category, the stigma that “supporting actor is lesser than lead actor” is gone.

    Supporting actress temporarily stopped being a “lesser” category when people like Ingrid Bergman, Meryl Streep, Jessica Lange and Whoopi Goldberg won. The stigma was officially gone when people like Judi Dench, Angelina Jolie, Jennifer Connelly, Renee Zellweger, Cate Blanchett and Anne Hathaway won.

    It is surprising that many supporting winners don’t go on to lead wins. I personally think Cate Blanchett, Anne Hathaway, Angelina Jolie, George Clooney and Christian Bale will definitely win in lead one day. Renee Zellweger could if she ever decides to start making movies again. Michael Caine, Judi Dench and Morgan Freeman could if they prove to have one or two more great performances in them.

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