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    How was the first Hellboy nominated for Best Fantasy Film yet its sequel Hellboy: The Golden Army was nominated for Best Horror Film, which it won?

    How was Seven Psychopaths, Argo, and Zero Dark Thirty nominated for Best Horror Film when NONE of those movies were Horror movies?!

    How was Snowpiercer, a Science Fiction Film that is OBVIOUSLY a Science Fiction Film, not nominated in that category and was instead nominated for Action or Adventure Film, where it lost to failed Oscar bait Unbroken?!?!

    How did Her and Superman Returns win Best Fantasy Film when both were clearly Science Fiction Films?! Heck, the 1978 Superman movie actually WON the Award for Best Science Fiction Film!

    I can understand and accept an Awards getting it wrong, most of the time at least. However, the category classifications being such a ludicrous mess is what drives me crazy! 🙁

    Speaking of the Saturn Awards getting it wrong:

    How did Arnold Schwarzenegger NEVER win a Saturn Award yet Brandon Routh WON for Superman Returns?!

    How did Tobin Bell never get nominated for the Saw franchise?

    How did The Faculty only manage 2 nominations and no wins the same year that John Carpenter’s Vampires recieved 5 nominations and somehow won twice?

    Speaking of John Carpenter, how did he rarely get recognized by the Saturns, with his ONLY win being for Vampires’ Music Score?

    How did neither of the first 2 Blade movies get nominated for ANYTHING other than Horror Film and Makeup?! I think that Stephen Dorff should have easily won, let alone been nominated, for playing the wicked villain Deacon Frost to perfection!

    How did the critically trashed Burying The Ex win Best DVD or Blu-ray Release over the Oscar-nominated Tale of the Princess Kaguya?

    In what depraved universe does the 1998 Godzilla movie win Best ANYTHING, let alone Best Special Effects?! Better than those in Armageddon, Dark City, or even Saving Private Ryan?!?!

    And don’t get me started on Jar Jar Abrams’ Disney Wars: The Failed Awakening winning 8 Awards, including for Adam Driver’s Hayden Christensen-esque DISASTER of a performance?!

    And many, many, MANY more…

    But don’t forget, that this thread is about people explaining what’s up with the messy and nonsensical category confusion.

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    Teridax
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    So, what are your thoughts, do the same Saturn Awards voters decide the nominees that decide the winners? Or do the studios decide where each movie should be categorized under? OR is it like the Razzies where there is a shortlist for the final nominees to be chosen from, with the shortlist being decided by the head of the Saturn Awards?

    WTF is up with the Saturn Awards insane genre categorizations?!

    Oh, and how does the FIRST Twilight movie get nominated for Best Fantasy Film, the SECOND Twilight movie get nominated for Best Horror Film, and the THIRD Twilight movie is once again nominated for FANTASY FILM?! These Awards can’t even stay consistent within the same franchise!!! Also, see Hellboy above.

    And how had Guillermo Del Toro never won a competitive Award for any of his movies? Was Superman Returns really better written and directed than Pan’s Labyrinth?! According to the Saturn Awards voters, it was!!!

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    Teridax
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    Anyone here? Anyone? 😐

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    Riley
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    So many things.

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    Teridax
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    So many things.

    I already named many of them, but I was hoping for some clarification as to WHY they were so inconsistent and contradictory.

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    Andrew D
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    Straight off their web site

    The Saturn Awards is the official award presentation voted by the members of the The Academy of Science Fiction, Fantasy and Horror Films. Our organization is a 501(c)3 non-profit organization which was founded in 1972. In the begining, the organization’s focus was to honor and recognize the genres of science fiction, fantasy and horror films. As the Academy became established in the world of genre entertainment and the film entertainment industry, the focus was broadened to include additional genres to the awards process. Additionally, we began voting awards of honor in the fields of television, home entertainment and, on occasion, live stage production.

    The Saturn Awards is considered the premier organization in honoring and recognizing multi-genre entertainment. The event is annually supported and co-sponsored by the biggest and most successful talent and visionaries working in the film and teleivison field today. The organization has been presenting awards for over four decades.

    The brains behind the Academy was Founder Dr. Donald A. Reed. He was a noted film historian who had a life long passion for this area of entertainment. Prior to establishing The Academy of Science Fiction, Fantasy and Horror Films in 1972, Dr. Reed headed an intimate social group would get together and discuss gothic literature and classic film releases. This group of passionate fans would occasionally hold luncheons to honor authors and film and television actors, directors, and producers. This was quite an achievement for any group which did not have formal financing to hold these events. It was all done with love and passion for the genres. These members of the industry attended to receive honors.

    Once the Academy was established, the tradition of holding special events was formalized. An annual awards show was produced which began in 1973 (one year after founding the Academy). The membership of the Academy grew to several hundred members and began officially creating blue ribbon panels to nominate and vote these awards on an annual basis. T he Academy recently held it’s 40th Annual Saturn Awards ceremony.

    Sadly, Dr. Reed passed away in 2001. His dedicated staff and leadership continue his dream of honoring the most popular genres in film and television.

    …..

    The members of the Academy and Saturn Awards vote in the annual awards show. Some members vote in specific areas (direction, acting, writing, special/visual effects, etc) while all members vote for the best film releases of the year.

    We currently have several best film categories which cover many genres including: Best Science Fiction Film, Best Comic-to-Motion Picture Release, Best Fantasy Film, Best Horror Film, Best Thriller Film, Best Action/Adventure Film, Best Independent Film Release, Best International Film Release and Best Animated Film.

    If you enjoy edgy entertainment and feel like you would like to have a voice in the world of entertainment, please join our Academy.

    ….

    http://www.saturnawards.org/Saturn-Awards-Membership.php

    they are accepting members , so you can join and fix some of the bad nominations …lol

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    Andrew D
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    again per their web site , for just forty bucks you can join and vote … so i would say this is probably why they give out weird awards .. anyone can vote regardless of their qualifications.

    We are once again offering affiliate membership status for purposes of voting in this year’s Saturn Awards.
    Affiliate Members are allowed to vote for this year’s winners. It is easy to sign up for this privilege.
    We have two separate levels for you to choose from:

    $25 Level A : (click on $25) This allows you to vote in the Best Film / Best Television series categories.

    The 16 categories you will be allowed to vote in are:

    Best Comic-to-Motion Picture
    Best Science Fiction Film
    Best Fantasy Film
    Best Horror Film
    Best Thriller Film
    Best Animated Film Best Action/Adventure Film
    Best International Film
    Best Independent Film

    Best Science Fiction TV Series
    Best Fantasy TV Series Best Horror TV Series
    Best Thriller TV Series
    Best Superhero Adaptation TV Series
    Best New Media TV Series
    Best Animated Series or Movie on TV

    $40 – Level B : (click on $40) This allows you to vote in ALL categories in film & television.

    The 35 categories are:

    Best Comic-to-Motion Picture
    Best Science Fiction Film
    Best Fantasy Film
    Best Horror Film
    Best Thriller Film
    Best Animated Film
    Best Action/Adventure Film
    Best International Film
    Best Independent Film
    Best Film Director
    Best Film Writing
    Best Film Editing Best Film Production Design
    Best Film Music
    Best Film Costume Design
    Best Film Make-Up
    Best Film Special / Visual Effects
    Best Actor in a Film
    Best Actress in a Film
    Best Supporting Actor in a Film
    Best Supporting Actress in a Film
    Best Performance by a Younger Actor

    Best Superhero Adaptation TV Series
    Best Science Fiction TV Series
    Best Fantasy TV Series
    Best Horror TV series
    Best Thriller TV Series
    Best New Media TV Series
    Best Actor in a TV Series
    Best Actress in a TV Series
    Best Supporting Actor in a TV Series
    Best Supporting Actress in a TV Series
    Best Guest Star Performance in a TV Series
    Best Younger Actor in a TV Series
    Best TV Presentation

    When you sign up for affiliate membership, we will set up your account in our voting system and contact you when this is completed. We will send you a password which will allow you to go into our site and you will be able to vote in the categories you are confirmed to vote in. VOTING WILL BE ACTIVATED ON MARCH 03.

    If you have a strong passion for honoring the best in genre entertainment and want to participate in this year’s Saturn Awards voting process helping us choose the winners, please sign up today. Click Here! $25 Join – $40 Join!

    PLEASE NOTE: AFFILIATE MEMBERSHIP ONLY ALLOWS YOU TO VOTE IN THE ANNUAL SATURN AWARDS VOTING.

    TO BECOME A FULLY ACCREDITED MEMBER OF THE ORGANIZATION AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OUR BENEFITS
    PLEASE JOIN AT OUR REGULAR MEMBERSHIP RATES BELOW:
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    General Membership and / or Donation information

    The Academy of Science Fiction, Fantasy & Horror Films was founded in 1972 to honor, recognize and promote genre films. We annually present the prestigious Saturn Awards.

    In recent years, we have added television and home entertainment categories to the media mix. We have also widened the scope of our awards by celebrating achievement in additional genres including action, adventure, and thrillers as well as international cinema. We recognize the films and programming the typical genre fan embraces and supports with great insight and passion.

    Academy members vote the annual Saturn Awards. By joining the Academy, you will have the opportunity to have a voice in the selection of the Saturn Awards winners.

    The Academy is a 501 (c) 3 non-profit corporation. The face value of your contribution (membership) is tax-deductible to the fullest extent of the law.

    Order your membership using the security of PayPal Services. All major credit cards are accepted. Just click the membership level listed below. You may also make a donation of your own choosing by using the link listed below marked “Donation”.

    Various levels to become a member:

    $240 – Premium Membership. Receive a 2016/17 membership (expires Dec. 01, 2017) card enabling you and one guest to attend all Academy screenings held on the weekends in the Southern California area. In addition, you will be able to sign up and attend special events held throughout the week –which includes plays, special screenings, and other special events which we will receive tickets for.

    $195 – Regular Membership. Receive a 2016/17 membership (expires Dec. 01, 2017) membership card enabling you to vote in the annual Saturn Awards as well as to attend (with a guest) all of the Academy screenings held in the Los Angeles area. We average 100 film screenings every year.

    $500 – Professional Membership – Individual. Receive a 2016/17 membership (expires Dec. 01, 2017) membership card enabling you to vote in the annual Saturn Awards as well as attending (with a guest) all of the Academy screenings held in the Los Angeles area. Additionally, you will receive an invitation to attend the Saturn Awards Show (a separate cost may be incurred to receive a ticket to the annual dinner).

    $1000 – Professional Membership – Business. Receive a 2016/17 membership (expires Dec. 01, 2017) membership card enabling you to vote in the annual Saturn Awards as well as to attend (with a guest) all of the Academy screenings held in the Los Angeles area. Additionally, you will receive an invitation to attend the Saturn Awards Show. Two tickets will be included as part of your membership package provided the Saturn Awards show is produced by the organization.

    $8,000 – Saturn Awards advertising / tables. Place a full color page ad in the official journal of The 43rd Annual Saturn Awards. Additionally, you will receive a full table of ten (10) seats at the event. (please note: ad must be delivered to our offices by a date to be specified and seating must be confirmed by a date to be specified).

    $40 – Out-of-State Membership. Receive a 2016/17 membership (expires Dec. 01, 2017) membership enabling you to vote in the annual Saturn Awards. A membership package will be mailed to you which will include a membership card, and other special items such as a dvd or t-shirt or other promotional item provided by a film studio. This membership is intended for persons who live outside the Southern California area and cannot be used to attend screenings in the Los Angeles area.

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