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  • KaRol
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    #396907

    does anyone know when exactly was the rule that ‘the featured artists on the Album of the Year are nominees too’ instated?

    cause when Jay Z was featured on AoTy nominee – Late Registration in 2006, he was not a Grammy nominee by the Grammy rules, but in 2009, on Tha Carter III, he was then.

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    2008 (50th) Grammys.

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    Jose Manuel Garcia
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    Leonard Cohen and Tina Turner won that grammy for being part in Herbie Hancock´s album.
    If all the artist in a soundtrack won the grammy (Saturday Night Fever, Oh Brother) it should have applied to all the artist in the album…
    so all people in Santana´s album and in Ray Charles should have an extra grammy 

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    TonyKuKo
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    Leonard Cohen and Tina Turner won that grammy for being part in Herbie Hancock´s album.
    If all the artist in a soundtrack won the grammy (Saturday Night Fever, Oh Brother) it should have applied to all the artist in the album…
    so all people in Santana´s album and in Ray Charles should have an extra grammy 

    I think it depended on which songs were originally made for that soundtrack. All the artists from Saturday Night Fever and O’ Brother received the GRAMMY. However for “The Bodyguard” only Whitney Houston and the producers of her songs received the awards.

    On the other hand, awarding featured artists began after Santana’s win. Possibly like RichardAniston said; during the 50th Grammys.

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    Here’s another question – how do you feel about this?  I personally think it’s lame!  Featured artists included is BS IMO, a cheap star f*cker add on by the grammys.

    I also don’t think artists on soundtracks should be included.  Maybe if they worked on at least a fourth of the total tracks or something like that maybe.

    Also when they do changes like this (in other categories too) even if the academy doesn’t recognize those who would have been eligible ion the past with an actual nomination or cerftificate they should consider them as if being nominated or awarded.  I know the producers before the 1950 oscars are just as good as nominated and awarded in my book. 

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    The Compilation Soundtrack is presented to the artist or artists of a majority of tracks
    and/or the producer or producers of a majority of tracks on the album.
    In the absence of either, then the award goes to the individual(s)
    actively responsible for the musical direction of the album. That’s why in the case of Dreamgirls OST – Beyonce was a nominee, but becuase she was featured on only 3 of 13 tracks on Cadillac Records OST – the only nominee was the producer Steve Jordan.

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    KaRol
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    thank you all for your answers. indeed, the rule was instated just before 50th Grammy Awards. when you look at the list of the people nominated for each AotY nominee in 2007 (below), the only nominees are: main artists, producers, engineers/mixers & mastering engineers (no featured artists on Justin’s album like T.I., Beyonce, will.i.am, Three 6 Mafia etc.)
    ALBUM OF THE YEAR
    “Taking The Long Way”,
    Dixie Chicks; Rick Rubin, producer; Richard Dodd, Jim Scott & Chris
    Testa, engineers/mixers; Richard Dodd, mastering engineer; [Open
    Wide/Columbia]
    “St. Elsewhere”, Gnarls Barkley; Danger Mouse,
    producer; Ben H. Allen, Danger Mouse & Kennie Takahashi,
    engineers/mixers; Mike Lazer, mastering engineer [Downtown/Atlantic]
    “Continuum”,
    John Mayer; Steve Jordan & John Mayer, producers; John Alagia,
    Michael Brauer, Joe Ferla, Chad Franscoviak, Manny Marroquin & Dave
    O’Donnell, engineers/mixers; Greg Calbi, mastering engineer
    [Aware/Columbia]
    “Stadium Arcadium”, Red Hot Chili Peppers;
    Rick Rubin, producer; Ryan Hewitt, Mark Linette & Andrew Scheps,
    engineers/mixers; Vlado Meller, mastering engineer [Warner Bros.]
    “FutureSex/LoveSounds”,
    Justin Timberlake; Nate (Danga) Hills, Jawbreakers, Rick Rubin,
    Timbaland & Justin Timberlake, producers; Jimmy Douglass, Serban
    Ghenea, Padraic Kerin, Jason Lader, Andrew Scheps, Timbaland & Ethan
    Willoughby, engineers/mixers; Herb Powers, Jr., mastering engineer
    [Jive Records/Zomba Label Group]

    but in 2008 you can see the difference:
    ALBUM OF THE YEAR
    “Echoes, Silence, Patience & Grace”, Foo Fighter; Gil Norton, producer; Adrian Bushby & Rich Costey, engineers/mixers; Brian Gardner, mastering engineer [Roswell/RCA Records]
    “These Days”, Vince Gill; John Anderson, Guy Clarke, Rodney Crowell, Diana Krall & The Del
    McCoury Band, featured artists; Vince Gill, John Hobbs & Justin
    Niebank, producers; Neal Cappellino & Justin Niebank,
    engineers/mixers; Adam Ayan, mastering engineer [MCA Nashville]
    “River: The Joni Letter”, Herbie Hancock; Leonard Cohen, Norah Jones, Joni Mitchell, Corinne Bailey Rae,
    Luciana Souza & Tina Turner, featured artists; Herbie Hancock &
    Larry Klein, producers; Helik Hadar, engineer/mixer; Bernie Grundman,
    mastering engineer [Verve]
    “Graduation”, Kanye West; Dwele, Lil Wayne, Mos Def & T-Pain, featured artists; Warryn “Baby Dubb” Campbell, Eric Hudson, Brian “Allday” Miller, Nottz, Patrick “Plain Pat” Reynolds, Gee Roberson, Toomp & Kanye West, producers; Bruce
    Beuchner, Andrew Dawson, Mike Dean, Anthony Kilhoffer, Greg Koller,
    Manny Marroquin, Nottz Raw, Tony Rey, Seiji Sekine, Paul Sheehy & D.
    Sloan, engineers/mixers; Vlado Meller, mastering engineer [Roc-A-Fella Records]
    “Back To Black”, Amy Winehouse; Mark Ronson & Salaamremi, producers; Tom Elmhirst, Gary Noble & Franklin Socorro, engineers/mixers; Mark Ronson, mastering engineer [Universal Republic Records]

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    ANOTHER QUESTION: what are all The Dream’s Grammy nominations?

    the Grammy site says he has “10 prior GRAMMY nominations and four prior GRAMMY wins”. (source: http://www.grammy.com/news/exploring-the-rap-field-nominees-0).

    i found only this (+ means a win), and those are his 8 noms/4 wins, so there are still some 2 noms he received:
    2008 SONG – UMBRELLA
    2010 ALBUM – I AM… SASHA FIERCE
    2010 +SONG – SINGLE LADIES (PUT A RING ON IT)
    2010 +R&B SONG – SINGLE LADIES (PUT A RING ON IT)
    2011 SONG – ALL OF THE LIGHTS
    2011 +RAP SONG – ALL OF THE LIGHTS
    2012 +RAP/SUNG COLLAB – NO CHURCH IN THE WILD
    2012 MUSIC VIDEO – NO CHURCH IN THE WILD

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    That’s how it should be for album of the year as well.  Another thing that is bothersome, are the musicians.  You know a lot of these albums have musicians playing on all or most of the tracks in the AOTY category yet they aren’t included but Tina Turner (love her to pieces!!!) gets a win for the one track she particpated in on Hancock’s album???  Lame!!!

    The Compilation Soundtrack is presented to the artist or artists of a majority of tracks
    and/or the producer or producers of a majority of tracks on the album.
    In the absence of either, then the award goes to the individual(s)
    actively responsible for the musical direction of the album. That’s why in the case of Dreamgirls OST – Beyonce was a nominee, but becuase she was featured on only 3 of 13 tracks on Cadillac Records OST – the only nominee was the producer Steve Jordan.

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    TonyKuKo
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    The Compilation Soundtrack is presented to the artist or artists of a majority of tracks
    and/or the producer or producers of a majority of tracks on the album.
    In the absence of either, then the award goes to the individual(s)
    actively responsible for the musical direction of the album. That’s why in the case of Dreamgirls OST – Beyonce was a nominee, but becuase she was featured on only 3 of 13 tracks on Cadillac Records OST – the only nominee was the producer Steve Jordan.

    That might happen in the Best Compilation Soundtrack category but not in AoTY. All of the singers from the O Brother Soundtrack received the Grammy Award for AoTY even if they appeared in only one song

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    KaRol
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    [quote=”KaRolMialski”]The Compilation Soundtrack is
    presented to the artist or artists of a majority of tracks
    and/or the producer or producers of a majority of tracks on the album.
    In the absence of either, then the award goes to the individual(s)
    actively responsible for the musical direction of the album. That’s why
    in the case of Dreamgirls OST – Beyonce was a nominee, but becuase she
    was featured on only 3 of 13 tracks on Cadillac Records OST – the only
    nominee was the producer Steve Jordan.

    That might happen
    in the Best Compilation Soundtrack category but not in AoTY. All of the
    singers from the O Brother Soundtrack received the Grammy Award for AoTY
    even if they appeared in only one song[/quote]

    yeah i know that
    already, the rules for both categories differs. all of the artists on
    the O Brother Soundtrack were treated as main artists, not featured. 😉

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    M H
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    I believe the previous rule was the an artist or a producer had to be credited on half of the album to be included in the nomination/win. That is why Whitney Houston won for the The Bodyguard but, say, Lisa Stansfield or S.O.U.L.S.Y.S.T.E.M. did not. 

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