Are Grammys finished with old timers in Album of the Year?

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  • Daniel Montgomery
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    The Grammys love to reward veterans in the top categories, but in recent years, it seems this has changed. While the last two years saw veteran artists Daft Punk and Beck win, they’re not really the kinds of veterans who have won in the recent past: real old-timers like Steely Dan, Santana, Ray Charles, Herbie Hancock, and Robert Plant. In fact, no one I would consider an old-timer has even been nominated since Robert Plant won in 2008.

    Are Grammy voters done awarding old-timers for Album of the Year? When 45-year-old Beck is the elder statesman in the category, it seems there’s a significant demographic shift underway.

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    ProfessorChaos
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    It depends. Career artists are having trouble getting airplay. But in a few years, artists from the 90s will hit their 50s. For example, if Madonna were to win AOTY this year (she won’t even be nominated) would we say they awarded an old timer?

    It’s just a matter of when a multi-decade artist hits that hit tour/critically acclaimed album. Someone like Depeche Mode or Pearl Jam or Ice Cube can do that, but I don’t think it’d be fair to label them as token old timers.

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    Final2
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    I would consider anyone from the early 90s to be an old timer the current winners were being born then.

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    Boidiva02
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    No. I think it is just a conicindence. I also think we could see Janet Jackson win AOTY or ROTY in 2017.

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    setfiretorain
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    If Taylor wins, then you know they’re all old, horney white men easily swayed by Taylor’s lil “grammy sessions” {#emotions_dlg.laugh}. though fearless certainly deserves it, 1989 (with the exception of 1-2 songs) was pretty cookie cutter mediocre. i hope kendrick wins, but seeing as he is a rapper, we alllll know how the grammys LOVES them……/s

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    PoweR
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    When was the last time an “old fogie” put out a geniunely acclaimed album that sparked strong sales? Raising Sand was one of the most acclaimed albums of that season. I haven’t seen an album by an old veteran that has met such acclaim since. So as long as these artists keep putting out middling albums, the closest thing to an “old fogie” would be someone like Daft Punk or Beck, artists who still have that “p4k cred”.

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    Richard Aniston
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    It could happen this year with Don Henley’s Cass County.

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    Tyler The Awesome Guy
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    It’s not that they’re “done” with old timers, it’s that most popular music is by artists who are in their 20s and 30s. Give it a few years and those artists will be replaced by new ones and the cycle repeats.

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    If Taylor wins, then you know they’re all old, horney white men easily swayed by Taylor’s lil “grammy sessions” {#emotions_dlg.laugh}. though fearless certainly deserves it, 1989 (with the exception of 1-2 songs) was pretty cookie cutter mediocre. i hope kendrick wins, but seeing as he is a rapper, we alllll know how the grammys LOVES them……/s

    Actually “1989” got better reviews and ended up on more critics year end lists than “Fearless”. Not to mention “1989’s” dominance this year.

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    Rinolo Twenty-two
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    Black Messiah is nominated everywhere, for me, that’s the frontrunner, he’s a veteran. About Kendrick, I’d want him to win, it’s not happening, but I have Kendrick tying Michael Jackson with 12 nominations on December 7th, LOL, I’m joking he will be the most nominated for sure, the guy submitted perfectly, I hope they give him at least one award in the main ceremony. He looked really annoyed and sad, the first time he attended when they snubbed him completely.

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    Xtina
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    The Grammy Awards have gone super commercial over the last five years.  I don’t think NARAS is done awarding “old timers.”  These veterans have to release a somewhat commercially successful album in order to win AOTY nowadays.  NARAS really wants to be looked at as hip and cool.

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    [quote=”SahmeZarakian”]

    If Taylor wins, then you know they’re all old, horney white men easily swayed by Taylor’s lil “grammy sessions” {#emotions_dlg.laugh}. though fearless certainly deserves it, 1989 (with the exception of 1-2 songs) was pretty cookie cutter mediocre. i hope kendrick wins, but seeing as he is a rapper, we alllll know how the grammys LOVES them……/s

    Actually “1989” got better reviews and ended up on more critics year end lists than “Fearless”. Not to mention “1989’s” dominance this year.
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    damn everytime taylor is mentioned you just appear. swifties like you are very obsessive. anyways, no..fearless just did 3 points lower on metacritic.. and in MY OPINION it was better… we can each have our own opinion, you know.

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    [quote=”Final2″]

    [quote=”SahmeZarakian”]

    If Taylor wins, then you know they’re all old, horney white men easily swayed by Taylor’s lil “grammy sessions” {#emotions_dlg.laugh}. though fearless certainly deserves it, 1989 (with the exception of 1-2 songs) was pretty cookie cutter mediocre. i hope kendrick wins, but seeing as he is a rapper, we alllll know how the grammys LOVES them……/s

    Actually “1989” got better reviews and ended up on more critics year end lists than “Fearless”. Not to mention “1989’s” dominance this year.
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    damn everytime taylor is mentioned you just appear. swifties like you are very obsessive. anyways, no..fearless just did 3 points lower on metacritic.. and in MY OPINION it was better… we can each have our own opinion, you know.
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    But in your post you tried to pass YOUR OPINION as fact. “1989” is a solid pop album that has dominated for months. If Taylor wins is because of her work not “Horny Old White Men”. “1989” is Taylor most successful album critically and commercially and that’s why she’ll win. I only reply to people who don’t make sense about Taylor because of bias.

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    [quote=”SahmeZarakian”]

    [quote=”Final2″]

    [quote=”SahmeZarakian”]

    If Taylor wins, then you know they’re all old, horney white men easily swayed by Taylor’s lil “grammy sessions” {#emotions_dlg.laugh}. though fearless certainly deserves it, 1989 (with the exception of 1-2 songs) was pretty cookie cutter mediocre. i hope kendrick wins, but seeing as he is a rapper, we alllll know how the grammys LOVES them……/s

    Actually “1989” got better reviews and ended up on more critics year end lists than “Fearless”. Not to mention “1989’s” dominance this year.
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    damn everytime taylor is mentioned you just appear. swifties like you are very obsessive. anyways, no..fearless just did 3 points lower on metacritic.. and in MY OPINION it was better… we can each have our own opinion, you know.
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    But in your post you tried to pass YOUR OPINION as fact. “1989” is a solid pop album that has dominated for months. If Taylor wins is because of her work not “Horny Old White Men”. “1989” is Taylor most successful album critically and commercially and that’s why she’ll win. I only reply to people who don’t make sense about Taylor because of bias.
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    And why should I listen to someone with a Taylor Swift profile pict, posting non-stop about her Queen Taylor?! You yourself are bias towards taylor, so goodbye lmao. Calm down. Breathe. Not everyone is a fan of 1989. It is doing better than her previous albums, because Taylor is an amazing business woman. She riled up the media about the drama behind 1989. Also, her OLDER fans (you know the one who’ve been with her since the start, like me) actually do not like 1989 compared to Speak Now. It is very cookie cutter and the visual storytelling is no longer there. Ed’s X has sold over 10 million… and I find it interesting he doesn’t brag about it as much as Taylor… probably because he doesn’t depend on hype like she does nowadays. 

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    [quote=”Final2″]

    [quote=”SahmeZarakian”]

    [quote=”Final2″]

    [quote=”SahmeZarakian”]

    If Taylor wins, then you know they’re all old, horney white men easily swayed by Taylor’s lil “grammy sessions” {#emotions_dlg.laugh}. though fearless certainly deserves it, 1989 (with the exception of 1-2 songs) was pretty cookie cutter mediocre. i hope kendrick wins, but seeing as he is a rapper, we alllll know how the grammys LOVES them……/s

    Actually “1989” got better reviews and ended up on more critics year end lists than “Fearless”. Not to mention “1989’s” dominance this year.
    [/quote]
    damn everytime taylor is mentioned you just appear. swifties like you are very obsessive. anyways, no..fearless just did 3 points lower on metacritic.. and in MY OPINION it was better… we can each have our own opinion, you know.
    [/quote]
    But in your post you tried to pass YOUR OPINION as fact. “1989” is a solid pop album that has dominated for months. If Taylor wins is because of her work not “Horny Old White Men”. “1989” is Taylor most successful album critically and commercially and that’s why she’ll win. I only reply to people who don’t make sense about Taylor because of bias.
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    And why should I listen to someone with a Taylor Swift profile pict, posting non-stop about her Queen Taylor?! You yourself are bias towards taylor, so goodbye lmao. Calm down. Breathe. Not everyone is a fan of 1989. It is doing better than her previous albums, because Taylor is an amazing business woman. She riled up the media about the drama behind 1989. Also, her OLDER fans (you know the one who’ve been with her since the start, like me) actually do not like 1989 compared to Speak Now. It is very cookie cutter and the visual storytelling is no longer there. Ed’s X has sold over 10 million… and I find it interesting he doesn’t brag about it as much as Taylor… probably because he doesn’t depend on hype like she does nowadays. 
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    I’ve been a fan of Taylor Swift since 2006 just so you know. I’ve owned every single album starting with “Taylor Swift” and remember waiting for “Fearless”. I thing “1989” is a fantastic cohesive album. It’s a great pop album and has every reason to win AotY. I’m completely bias towards Taylor but know when to interject. I normally try not to defend her all the time. I don’t think “1989” will win AotY but it has nothing to do with “Horny White Men”. Also unless X has sold 7 million copies worldwide in 2015 it’s came nowhere close to 10 million considering it sold 3.4 million copies worldwide in 2014 when it was released. “1989” sold more albums in 2014 when both albums were released and received an award for it. “1989” has sold 8 million copies since its release.

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