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  • PoweR
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    Who will win Best R&B Song?

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    ImKing
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    Jazmine Sullivan “Let It Burn” should win because it will give Babyface another win.

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    PoweR
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    This is the R&B category I will be watching closely. It will boil down to “Earned It (Fifty Shades of Grey)” and “Really Love”. 

    “Earned It” is the biggest song here and Abel is nominated all over the place, so the odds may be in his favor. However, “Really Love” managed to get that surprising Record of the Year nomination, which indicates that there is a lot of support for this song. “Really Love” is objectively a better composed song than “Earned It,” which is nothing special and is just really another R&B sex jam. “Earned It,” however, was nominated for R&B Performance. “Really Love” failed to get a nomination. Some voters may feel obligated to give another Grammy to D’Angelo, whereas they may feel The Weeknd will get his due in R&B Performance and Urban Contemporary Album. Plus, no artists have won Song, Performance and Album since the combining of the categories.

    My heart is saying “Really Love” pulls it off, but my mind says “Earned It.”

    I’m just going out on a limb and predicting “Really Love” for the win.  

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    “Coffee,” “Let It Burn” and “Shame,” while great songs lyrically, won’t win.  “Earned It (Fifty Shades of Grey)” is the biggest hit here and could prevail if voters ride The Weeknd train.  Since “Really Love” was snubbed in Best R&B Performance, R&B voters can only vote for it here.  Plus, it’s nominated for ROTY.  We have a winner, folks!

    SHOULD WIN: “Really Love”
    WILL WIN: “Really Love” 

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    midnightmelanin
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    “Really Love” is objectively a better composed song than “Earned It,” which is nothing special and is just really another R&B sex jam. 

    It’s funny that you say Earned It is just another “R&B sex jam” when Really Love is more sexually charged in its lyricism than Earned It.  “When you love me gently…I love you deep when you come to my bed…when you touch me there, when you make me tingle, when our nectars mingle” I get that you probably are talking about the sound of the former but the implied sexual subject matter doesn’t make it an inherently better or worse song.

     I still think Really Love is lightyears ahead of Earned It in quality but it’s not necessarily because Earned It is “another R&B sex jam” and Really Love isn’t, it’s just that Really Love is a better song overall. 

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    Yes, I’m talking about the sound of the song. Everything from the lyrics down to the melody down to the vocals is something I’ve already heard from Trey Songz, Usher, Miguel and the like. That’s basically what I was going for. Nothing I would quickly jump for if I were a Grammy voter. Never said that “Really Love” didn’t have sexual lyrics.

    I already stated that “Really Love” is a better composed song aside from its subjective matter, so I’m not sure why you only paid attention to the “another R&B sex jam” part. I just think there’s more meat to “Really Love’s” composition, which is much more than just the lyrics/subjective matter. Its melody is better than “Earned It.” 

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    I guess my point is you’ve heard the likes of a “R&B sex jam” from Trey Songz, Usher and Miguel…but also have heard it from D’Angelo…with Untitled which was an R&B sex jam that won a Grammy for R&B Vocal Performance was nominated for R&B Song. Hell, Drunk in Love is another R&B sex jam and it won last year. (Not that I think any of those songs are remotely comparable). 

    Also, I don’t mean for my comments to come off as a call out or a bash or anything like that. I really enjoy reading your commentary and I don’t even disagree. The “R&B sex jam” comment just peaked my interest and I just thought it was worth unpacking especially given the sexual nature of Really Love and the fact that Earned It’s lyrics aren’t even really sexual (maybe implicitly)

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    Just implies that it really all it is. Nothing else stands out about it to me. I love R&B bedroom songs, but if I’m comparing them to songs with similar content or different from them and have to send over the Grammy to one, they better have something else that stands out about them.

    I’ve heard Trey Songz, Usher and Miguel sing songs like this before. I don’t hear any of them singing something like “Really Love,” even if it has sexual lyrics. And people need to realize that these song categories or just writing a song period is not only about the lyrics but also the melody as well. So, “Earned It” would still be considered a “R&B sex jam” based on its structure, even if its lyrics do not explicitly say it. But that’s neither here nor there. “Untitled” won Best Male R&B Vocal Performance for D’Angelo’s performance but lost R&B Song (but would have been a deserving winner there), so I’m not sure why that’s being used as an example. And I won’t defend “Drunk In Love” because that song is nothing special lyrically either. Why was that one brought up? I’m saying why I hope that “Really Love” wins. Not that “Earned It” being “just another R&B sex jam” would hurt its chances at winning.

    Again, not knocking R&B bedroom songs. Just looking at the entire package when determining what should win the Grammy Award.

    Would it be better if I used the overused word “generic” instead? 

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    midnightmelanin
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    I see where you’re coming from. It’s not just that it’s that type of song but it’s also the fact that that is all the song has going for it. Gotcha.

    Also let the record show that I am in no way arguing for a Earned It win. I personally feel that content and quality wise, The Weeknd has no business winning in any of the R&B categories, but that’s a whole other convo. 

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    1. Earned It
    2. Really Love
    3. Shame
    4. Let It Burn
    5. Coffee 

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    I’m going with Really Love because of the ROTY nom, but Weeknd is likely too.

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