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  • Music Forever
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    #401081

    Deadline is over in a few weeks. Time for seperate genre threads.

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    Music Forever
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    As we all know that since the new categories no one really dominated the R&B Field with wins. Can Beyonce manage to win Performance, Song and album ? Or are we looking at another Snarky Puppy type situation ?

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    Richard Aniston
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    Beyonce as Urban Contemporary Album on Lock. Partition or XO will likely win Performance and Song.

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    My predictions… (And Just A Reminder… New Rules from Last Year Place Rap/Sung Collaborations with the Singer as the Lead Artist in This Category Now… that’s why Miguel featuring Kendrick Lamar was nominated here last year) 🙂

    R&B Performance:
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    The contenders…

    Kem – “It’s You”
    Trey Songz – “Na Na”
    Beyonce featuring Jay-Z – “Drunk in Love”
    Beyonce – “Partition” / “Flawless”
    Usher – “Good Kisser” / “She Came To Give It To You” featuring Nicki Minaj
    John Legend – “You and I (Nobody in the World)”
    Marsha Ambrosius – “Run”
    Chris Brown featuring Usher & Rick Ross – “New Flame”
    Tinashe featuring Schoolboy Q – “2 On”
    Jhene Aiko – “The Worst” / One of her newer songs
    Jeremih featuring YG – “Don’t Tell’Em”
    August Alsina – “No Love”
    The Weeknd – “Often”
    Prince – “U KNOW”
    Sevyn Streeter – “It Won’t Stop”
    Faith Evans featuring Missy Elliot & Sharaya J – “I Deserve It”

    Probably Submitted To Pop, But Maybe Here…

    Jason Derulo featuirng 2 Chainz – “Talk Dirty”
    Michael Jackson & Justin Timberlake – “Love Never Felt So Good” 

    My prediction:
    Prince – “U KNOW”
    Beyonce featuring Jay-Z – “Drunk in Love”
    Usher – “Good Kisser”
    John Legend – “You and I (Nobody in the World)”
    Trey Songz – “Na Na” 

    There were a lot of standout R&B singles on the radio this year by new artists, but a lot of them skewed towards the contemporary/alternative/hip-hop side… which NARAS R&B voters don’t usually go for.  There are also a TON of R&B Grammy favorites coming back to the race this year like Usher, Beyonce and Prince. John Legend will get nominated and might win as an apology by the Academy for not only not nominating him here last year for “All of Me” but for not giving him the win for the eventual #1 hit.

    R&B Song:
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    Contenders….

    “You and I (Nobody In the World)” (John Legend)
    “Drunk in Love” (Beyonce)
    “Partition” (Beyonce)
    “Na Na” (Trey Songz)
    “The Worst” (Jhene Aiko)
    “It Won’t Stop” (Sevyn Streeter)
    “2 On” (Tinashe featuring Schoolboy Q)
    “Don’t Tell’Em” (Jeremih featuring YG)
    “Loyal” (Chris Brown featuring Lil Wayne & Tyga)
    “New Flame” (Chris Brown featuring Usher & Rick Ross)
    “Often” (The Weeknd)
    “No Love” (August Alsina)

    Prediction:
    “Drunk in Love” (Beyonce featuring Jay-Z)
    “Partition” (Beyonce)
    “Na Na” (Trey Songz)
    “The Worst” (Jhene Aiko)
    “Loyal” (Chris Brown featuring Lil Wayne & Tyga)

    “Drunk in Love” should easily win this. I think Beyonce will get a double nomination in this category. I also think this will be the category where the Academy will honor some of the Urban Contemporary songs, such as “Loyal” and “The Worst” or possibly “It Won’t Stop” or The Weeknd’s track. 
     
    Traditional R&B Performance:

    Predictions (impossible to come up with contenders… so random):
    Leela James – “Fall For You”
    Johnny Gill – “Behind Closed Doors”
    Avery Sunshine – “Call My Name”
    Ann Nesby – “Remember”
    Mariah Carey featuring Stevie Wonder – “Make It Look Good”  

    This category is simply unpredictable… its all based on who submits. These are all traditional R&B performances in my opinion, with traditional R&B artists/vocals… so… my random guesses. Beyonce usually gets into this category, so I wouldn’t be suprised to see her here, I just didn’t know which song from BEYONCE would fit here. Prince and John Legend might get in here to if they submit. If Mariah’s people submit her in this category, I think she has a pretty good chance at scoring a nomination… either for this or her collaboration with Mary J. Blige. If Kem were smart… he’d submit here and get a nomination, but based on past submissions, I think he’ll try for R&B Performance (and might get into that category).

    Urban Contemporary Album:
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    Chris Brown – X
    Jhene Aiko – Souled Out
    Beyonce – BEYONCE
    Trey Songz – Trigga
    August Alsina – Testimony
     
    Its hard to know which albums will go in which category, but for now, these are my predictions. Beyonce and Chris Brown should easily get in. I don’t see why Trey would miss out on a nomination here. August Alsina should be this year’s out-of-left-field nomination here (without being considered too out of nowhere).  

    R&B Album:
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    Prince – ART OFFICIAL AGE
    Kem – Promise to Love
    Toni Braxton & Babyface – Love, Marriage & Divorce
    Leela James – Fall For You
    Mariah Carey – Me… I Am Mariah. The Elusive Chanteuse. 

    Once again, hard to know what album will go where. I don’t know where Prince or Mariah will be submitting their albums, but if they are smart, they will submit them here and probably get easy nominations. Toni Braxton and Babyface were snubbed in R&B performance last year, but they should be able to get in here this year. Kem is a former nominee and Leela is a guess. Tank might also make an apperance here, but I think he skews more Urban Contemporary. Who knows. 

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    Honey, Mariah Carey’s album is not getting nominated for Best R&B Album or Best Urban Contemporary Album.  Her album is the biggest flop of the year.  In fact, Carey won’t be receiving any nominations for that garbage .  Only the Mimi stans think she has a chance.

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    There are slim pickens in the R&B album categories this year.  Mariah’s album, despite calling it garbage, was very well received critically.  It went #1 on the R&B chart,  and considering that several of the albums being predicted in the R&B Album categories sold even less than hers, I don’t see that being valid. She could score a nomination–definitely not outside the realm of possibility, which has nothing to do with being a “stan,” but looking objectively at the other possibly contenders in this category.  She is certainly not a lock for a nomination, but considering the choices, it could happen.

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    There are slim pickens in the R&B album categories this year.  Mariah’s album, despite calling it garbage, was very well received critically.  It went #1 on the R&B chart,  and considering that several of the albums being predicted in the R&B Album categories sold even less than hers, I don’t see that being valid. She could score a nomination–definitely not outside the realm of possibility, which has nothing to do with being a “stan,” but looking objectively at the other possibly contenders in this category.  She is certainly not a lock for a nomination, but considering the choices, it could happen.

    Are there really “slim pickings” in the R&B cats this year? Look at last year and the year before that. Last year, Mack Wilds and Salaam Remi were nominated and the year before only three nominees were chosen when there were more than enough contenders to make it a five-nominee race. Not to say that Mariah can’t or won’t get a nomination, but there are plenty of R&B albums released within the eligibility year. R&B has become such a “dead” genre on the charts, but there are still R&B artists releasing albums. Hardly slim pickings. 

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Robert Glasper Experiment gets into R&B Album and wins again for Black Radio 2

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    Also, I still haven’t seen any legitimate proof to the claim that rap/sung collaborations led by singers are now relegated to R&B Performance or if it was just a situation where the label submitted certain rap/sung collaborations to R&B Performance to avoid competing with other rap/sung collaborations by the same artists.

    Does anyone have a current description guide?
     

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    Troy
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    [quote=”Troy”]There are slim pickens in the R&B album categories this year.  Mariah’s album, despite calling it garbage, was very well received critically.  It went #1 on the R&B chart,  and considering that several of the albums being predicted in the R&B Album categories sold even less than hers, I don’t see that being valid. She could score a nomination–definitely not outside the realm of possibility, which has nothing to do with being a “stan,” but looking objectively at the other possibly contenders in this category.  She is certainly not a lock for a nomination, but considering the choices, it could happen.

    Are there really “slim pickings” in the R&B cats this year? Look at last year and the year before that. Last year, Mack Wilds and Salaam Remi were nominated and the year before only three nominees were chosen when there were more than enough contenders to make it a five-nominee race. Not to say that Mariah can’t or won’t get a nomination, but there are plenty of R&B albums released within the eligibility year. R&B has become such a “dead” genre on the charts, but there are still R&B artists releasing albums. Hardly slim pickings. 

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Robert Glasper Experiment gets into R&B Album and wins again for Black Radio 2. [/quote]

    There may be a better caliber of potential nominees to choose from this year than the past few, true.

    I guess my main point was that using Mariah’s flop album sales to declare the album won’t be nominated is not logical considering it probably still sold better than the majority of potential nominees.   It is arguably the best reviewed album of her career and she is a high profile artist.  The better argument against her receiving nominations is the fact that her last two albums failed to do so.  

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    John Legend will get nominated and might win as an apology by the Academy for not only not nominating him here last year for “All of Me” but for not giving him the win for the eventual #1 hit.

    Wasn’t “All of Me” submitted to Pop Solo Performance last year?

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    Music Forever
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    John Legend will get in R&B for. “You and I.”

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    As sufficient as her album was, Mariah isn’t getting in. It disappointed on a multitude of levels starting with the lackluster sales. She would’ve needed hit singles in order to maintain this record’s longevity but unfortunately it came and went. Remember, she hasn’t been nominated for solo work since her huge comeback back in ’05/’06. The GRAMMYs are just so shady towards her even when she releases great material. 

    I always expect the unexpected in the R&B Field. The voters must literally close their eyes when deciding the nominees in these categories.

    The only lock so far is Beyonce’s win in Urban Contemporary. As far as we know, R&B Performance, Song, and Album are going to people we’ve never heard of before. 

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    I wouldn’t be surprised if Beyonce misses out on some key nominations in the R&B field (except Urban Contemporary Album), but is able to get things such as Rap/Sung Collaboration, Music Video, Music Film, Album of the Year and perhaps Record of the Year. I consider this because she doesn’t really have a standout track that I see being pushed in the R&B field. Stuff like “Partition” and “***Flawless” don’t really see like they’d fit in R&B Performance. If “Drunk In Love” is submitted here, then that would be a lock, but I reckon that will go Rap/Sung Collaboration (and win there).

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    who can be this year’s Snarky Puppy, Lalah Hathaway or Gary Clark Jr.?

    what are some under the radar contenders? Liv Warfield, FKA Twigs, Elijah Blake, Angie Fisher, someone else?

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    I don’t really think we’ll see a Snarky Puppy or Gary Clark Jr. this year. I see most of the R&B categories locked up by Beyonce tbh. Rocket or Superpower would fit the bill for a Traditional R&B Performance nomination (she’s won this category twice before). Drunk in Love seems primed for Best R&B Performance (if its submitted there) and R&B Song nominations. And of course, Best Urban Contemporary Album.

     

    I’m thinking we could we see Jhene Aiko with 2 or 3 noms in the R&B field this year.

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