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The Official KANYE WEST Thread (“All Day” out now, new album ‘So Help Me God’)

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  • Tye-Grr
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    Kanye West’s new album, ‘Yeezus’, drops on June 18th. He just premiered two new songs on the season finale of SNL titled “New Slaves””and “Black Skinheads”, and his sound, as always, is ever evolving.

    Say what you will of him as a person, but I think his music is genius, and I am not someone who just throws that word out there. In my opinion, “My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy” not winning AOTY at the Grammys (let alone even getting a NOMINATION) was a travesty on an epic level as it is a true masterpiece.

    Anyway, what does everyone think of the new tunes? I’m looking forward to hearing the HQ versions and learning more about the album (which is rumored to feature collaborations with Daft Punk and Skrillex, among others).

    Here’s a link to both performances:    http://www.justjared.com/2013/05/19/kanye-west-snl-performance-of-new-slaves-watch-now/

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    Renaton
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    I love “Black Skinheads”, it sounds like a Nine Inch Nails track (I’m aware there a Marilyn Manson sample, but the song is much more badass and intense than anything Manson has ever done). I’m awaiting the final version to have concret judgement, but it might already be one of my favorite songs he has ever done.

    “New Slaves” I don’t care for much. It feels like a studio track that doesn’t translate all that well played live. But the lyrics are good, the production sounds interesting, so I might care for it more once I hear the finished version. 

    And I love how the title of the album is both utterly awesome and pathetically ridiculous at once. There’s something simultaneously very obnoxnious and liberating about an asshole indulging himself in that kind of megalomania even when aware that it has the effect of poking his haters and critics and get them angrier as a consequence of basically comparing yourself to Jesus.  

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    Tye-Grr
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    I love “Black Skinheads”, it sounds like a Nine Inch Nails track (I’m aware there a Marilyn Manson sample, but the song is much more badass and intense than anything Manson has ever done). I’m awaiting the final version to have concret judgement, but it might already be one of my favorite songs he has ever done.

    “New Slaves” I don’t care for much. It feels like a studio track that doesn’t translate all that well played live. But the lyrics are good, the production sounds interesting, so I might care for it more once I hear the finished version. 

    And I love how the title of the album is both utterly awesome and pathetically ridiculous at once. There’s something simultaneously very obnoxnious and liberating about an asshole indulging himself in that kind of megalomania even when aware that it has the effect of poking his haters and critics and get them angrier as a consequence of basically comparing yourself to Jesus.  

    I completely agree with all of the above. 

    I love the imagery of his performance of “Black Skinheads”, and how those creepy ass hounds look like they are barking along to the track. It’s one of my favorite songs of the year so far, definitely.   

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    RadioGAGAhead
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    Agreed! I’m obsessed with “Black Skinheads” and was amazed with his performance. I love how he debuted “New Slaves” by projecting it on 66 buildings across the globe. I bet the studio version of the song will be great- is it true that Frank Ocean is featured on it? 
    As for the album, I really hope there that either Florence and/or Azealia Banks are featured. Kanye has expressed love for Florence in the past and has reportedly worked on a few songs with Azealia. 

    In my eyes, Kanye can be self-indulgent and an asshole, but he is a genius and easily one of the best rappers/producers of all time. 

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    Tye-Grr
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    Kanye’s website has changed with new locations being added around the world for his song/video projections. I wonder when he’s going to officially release a single to radio and we can get the studio versions of “New Slaves” and/or “Black Skinhead”?

    Also, there was a glitch (or leak) on his site about a week ago that revealed that ‘Yeezus’ will contain 14 tracks.  

    So far, the known about collabs are with John Legend, Daft Punk, and Skrillex.

    Rumored are Frank Ocean and Azealia Banks. Nothing is concrete though as far as what might make the album. Judging by the first two songs, we’re in for a darker sounding album.

    And on a random, Will Smith revealed a few days ago that Kanye asked to work with him in the studio on a new album (for Smith). Why on earth Kanye feels that Will Smith needs to keep making music is beyond me, but that’s kind of interesting.    

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    Marcus222
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    ^^^ Frank Ocean is definitely on the album as well, at the first premier of New Slaves video Frank Ocean’s mom tweeted “Recognize that voice?” At the end of the song where the singing part came on.

    I don’t know what Kanye is trying to do with Will Smith, but I hope that Will Smith doesn’t try to make a comeback into the rap world. He’s a man in his forties, hadn’t made any music in decades, and IIRC he had Nas and other ghostwriters making his hits. A new album would probably be pretty awkward and cringy, even if it was Kanye produced.

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    Tye-Grr
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    ^^^ Frank Ocean is definitely on the album as well, at the first premier of New Slaves video Frank Ocean’s mom tweeted “Recognize that voice?” At the end of the song where the singing part came on.
    I don’t know what Kanye is trying to do with Will Smith, but I hope that Will Smith doesn’t try to make a comeback into the rap world. He’s a man in his forties, hadn’t made any music in decades, and IIRC he had Nas and other ghostwriters making his hits. A new album would probably be pretty awkward and cringy, even if it was Kanye produced.

    Oh, yes, very interesting. And supposedly “Black Skinhead” was co-produced by Daft Punk (according to a RollingStone article that doesn’t outright say it, but hints at it and describes West rapping with “primal screams” over their track). 

    I wonder what his collab with Skrillex will sound like? I honestly hope it’s very different than Skrillex’s usual stuff. But Kanye is meticulous with his own albums, so I’m sure it’ll be unique.  

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    So hyped for this album! Kanye is always delivering something new, fresh, risky, and interesting. From what I’ve heard “New Slaves” sounds most appealing. “Black Skinheads” is a bit too much for my tastes.

    If Will Smith returned to the music scene with HOT music produced or written by Kanye, I wouldn’t have any issues. Sounds like an intriguing combo.

     

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    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/16/arts/music/kanye-west-talks-about-his-career-and-album-yeezus.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

    After reading this, I have only one word to describe Kanye: asshole.

    And I think it falls short; he is so conceited, and his lack of self-awareness is bewildering.  I’ve lost the ability to can with this man. He better bring it with this album. 

    Some excerpts from the interview:

    But has that instinct led you astray? Like the Taylor Swift interruption at the MTV Video Music Awards, things like that.

    It’s only led me to complete awesomeness at all times. It’s only led me to awesome truth and awesomeness. Beauty, truth, awesomeness. That’s all it is.

    You look at your outfits from five or seven years ago, and it’s like —

    Yeah, kill self. That’s all I have to say. Kill self.

    Respect my trendsetting.

    Yeah, respect my trendsetting abilities. Once that happens, everyone wins. The world wins; fresh kids win; creatives win; the company wins.

    I think what Kanye West is going to mean is something similar to what Steve Jobs means. I am undoubtedly, you know, Steve of Internet, downtown, fashion, culture. Period. By a long jump. I honestly feel that because Steve has passed, you know, it’s like when Biggie passed and Jay-Z was allowed to become Jay-Z.

    I’ve been connected to the most culturally important albums of the past four years, the most influential artists of the past ten years. You have like, Steve Jobs, Walt Disney, Henry Ford, Howard Hughes, Nicolas Ghesquière, Anna Wintour, David Stern.

    I think that’s a responsibility that I have, to push possibilities, to show people: “This is the level that things could be at.” So when you get something that has the name Kanye West on it, it’s supposed to be pushing the furthest possibilities. I will be the leader of a company that ends up being worth billions of dollars, because I got the answers. I understand culture. I am the nucleus.

     

     

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    MovieManiac405
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    His self-righteousness is starting to become borderline parody. I wonder what his mother would think of him and his demeanor if she were still around… These delusions of grandeur almost seem like a mental illness at times.

    And yet, I LOVE every one of his albums. Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy is my favorite rap album of all-time… Just please keep making music and stop with the talking. I despise the artist, but treasure the art…

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    OH MY GOD, KANYE IS AN ASSHOLE? I’m shocked, I tells ya, shocked!

    I don’t mind Kanye saying that. Because, well, as much of an asshole that he is, that’s kinda true. The Taylor Swift incident did lead him to My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy.  The way he chose to say it was megalomaniac, but it’s so old news that he doesn’t really regret what happens, and I don’t think anyone is really shocked his ego leads to great music. 

    I see Kanye as a distant character that leads to good music, I don’t need him to be nice regarding the whole Taylor Swift thing. Many great artists are jackasses, and Kanye is just another one with no filter. I can understand people who don’t like him because of that, but I just don’t care.

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    ^100% agreed. Kanye can say whatever he wants and I wouldn’t care, as long as he continues to deliver. 

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    Has there been any album released these last four years as good as My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy? Hell no. His work is, for better or for worse, incredibly influential. As a rap artist, he’s not only at the top of his game, but he’s at the tippy-top of THE game. Kanye is possibly one of the type five most important hip-hop artists ever, and easily the finest producer this side of RZA. I don’t think he’ll top himself with Yeezus, but I’d love to see what he’s got. 

    We get it. Kanye’s an asshole. Most geniuses are.  

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    Marcus222
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    in the New York Times interview he is obviously self-aware and the I Am A God song and Yeezus thing seems to be more of a satire of himself designed to create controversy and buzz than not. He definitely has the biggest ego in the music industry, but he is a religious person so he obviously doesn’t believe what he’s saying and isn’t actually the huge asshole he is making himself look like.

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    Kanye is actually very self-aware of how big his ego is, and that comes through in his music. However, what makes him an interesting asshole, is that even though he is aware of it, he chooses to criticize himself while celebrating his megalomania and boasting his ego with pride (“Let’s have a toast for the douchebags”). I wouldn’t want the guy in my life, but it’s this personality that makes his music so good, so as long as he is far away from me, I don’t care.

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