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    It’s a question many are wondering about, where will Taylor Swift’s cd Red be nominated Country or Pop? I personaly feel Country, but what do you think? Sound off!

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    It SHOULD be pop, There was nothing country about her 2 biggest hits from the album.

    I don’t know much about Grammy voting, but doesn’t Swift have a choice as to what genre she can submit an album/song?

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    Country.

    That’s Taylor Swift’s best shot at a win.  Plus, she’s a country artist who dabbles in Pop music.  Big deal.  

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    It SHOULD be pop, There was nothing country about her 2 biggest hits from the album.

    I don’t know much about Grammy voting, but doesn’t Swift have a choice as to what genre she can submit an album/song?

    Her and her label get a say, they submit the album to whatever genre they believe. It would be the smartest move to submit it to country.  

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    Country.

    That’s Taylor Swift’s best shot at a win.  Plus, she’s a country artist who dabbles in Pop music.  Big deal.  

    I agree strongly with this. Red is dominatly country, but like you said it dabbles in pop. She does have the best shot to win, because I don’t think she could beat The 20/20 Experience for pop vocal album.  

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    [quote=”GoMe91″]It SHOULD be pop, There was nothing country about her 2 biggest hits from the album.

    I don’t know much about Grammy voting, but doesn’t Swift have a choice as to what genre she can submit an album/song?

    Her and her label get a say, they submit the album to whatever genre they believe. It would be the smartest move to submit it to country.  [/quote]

    If the Academy feels the album doesn’t belong to country they will move the album to pop. After all the album has like 3 country songs.

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    Country.

    That’s Taylor Swift’s best shot at a win.  Plus, she’s a country artist who dabbles in Pop music.  Big deal.  

    Maybe as an artist that’s true, but have you listened to ‘Red’? The majority is definitely pop.  

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    [quote=”swiftisawesome”][quote=”GoMe91″]It SHOULD be pop, There was nothing country about her 2 biggest hits from the album.

    I don’t know much about Grammy voting, but doesn’t Swift have a choice as to what genre she can submit an album/song?

    Her and her label get a say, they submit the album to whatever genre they believe. It would be the smartest move to submit it to country.  [/quote]

    If the Academy feels the album doesn’t belong to country they will move the album to pop. After all the album has like 3 country songs.[/quote]

    Actually it’s more like this:
    Country: State of Grace, Red, Treacherous, All To Well, I Almost Do, Stay Stay Stay, The Last Time, Holy Ground, Sad Beautiful Tragic, The Lucky One, Everything has Changed, Begin Again

    Pop: I Knew You Were Trouble, 22, We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together, Starlight. 

    Have you ever listened to it? I’m sure you haven’t its dominately country, she just dabbles in pop, even country critics praised the album as a country album. Taylor is part of a genre called COUNTRY POP. Just like, Lady Antebellum, Jason Aldean, Carrie Underwood, The Band Perry, Blake Shelton, Shania Twain, Leann Rimes etc.       

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    [quote=”Gucci”]Country.

    That’s Taylor Swift’s best shot at a win.  Plus, she’s a country artist who dabbles in Pop music.  Big deal.  

    Maybe as an artist that’s true, but have you listened to ‘Red’? The majority is definitely pop.  [/quote]

    So I’m guessing you’ve never heard Red? Because, actually the album is dominatley country. Country crititcs praised it. It has 3 countrr top 5 hits, a country number 1 that stayed there for 10 consecutive weeks.  

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    Considering what passes for Country about half the songs fit in there. State of Grace and Red come off as big arena pop-rock songs to me. Begin Again is folk. The Moment I Knew and Everything has Changed are laidback pop songs, something Rihanna might do. But seeing what gets nominated there the album as a whole probably belongs in Country. She likely could get away with going either or. The album is only a bit less Country than her previous two outings, and Country is where they were submitted and nominated.

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    [quote=”joesilver”][quote=”swiftisawesome”][quote=”GoMe91″]It SHOULD be pop, There was nothing country about her 2 biggest hits from the album.

    I don’t know much about Grammy voting, but doesn’t Swift have a choice as to what genre she can submit an album/song?

    Her and her label get a say, they submit the album to whatever genre they believe. It would be the smartest move to submit it to country.  [/quote]

    If the Academy feels the album doesn’t belong to country they will move the album to pop. After all the album has like 3 country songs.[/quote]

    Actually it’s more like this:
    Country: State of Grace, Red, Treacherous, All To Well, I Almost Do, Stay Stay Stay, The Last Time, Holy Ground, Sad Beautiful Tragic, The Lucky One, Everything has Changed, Begin Again

    Pop: I Knew You Were Trouble, 22, We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together, Starlight. 

    Have you ever listened to it? I’m sure you haven’t its dominately country, she just dabbles in pop, even country critics praised the album as a country album. Taylor is part of a genre called COUNTRY POP. Just like, Lady Antebellum, Jason Aldean, Carrie Underwood, The Band Perry, Blake Shelton, Shania Twain, Leann Rimes etc.       [/quote]

    Yes, I own it. So, I guess you take anything as someone says it is?   

    Pop: ‘I Knew You Were Trouble’, ’22’, ‘We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together’, ‘Starlight’

    Pop Rock: ‘State of Grace’, ‘The Last Time’, ‘Everything Has Changed’, ‘Holy Ground’, ‘Sad Beautiful Tragic’ (nothing country about these)

    Country-ish: The rest. And that’s stretching.

    It’s not like that’s a bad thing. And of course country claims her and plays her: she makes a lot of money, gets a lot of listens for their stations. But is ANYTHING on ‘Red’ true blue country? Not really… It all has pop leanings.  

    It won’t shock me if she goes country. But it won’t shock me if they move her to pop where this particular album belongs.

    ‘Red’ is to country what Black Eyed Peas ‘The E.N.D.’ is to rap; IT’S NOT. 

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    But very few popular country albums today are true blue country. Taylor isn’t the first and won’t be the last artist to take advantage of blended, ambiguous genres. Besides having a few overtly pop songs I don’t see or rather hear much difference in style between this album and her previous efforts.

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    Considering what passes for Country about half the songs fit in there. State of Grace and Red come off as big arena pop-rock songs to me. Begin Again is folk. The Moment I Knew and Everything has Changed are laidback pop songs, something Rihanna might do. But seeing what gets nominated there the album as a whole probably belongs in Country. She likely could get away with going either or. The album is only a bit less Country than her previous two outings, and Country is where they were submitted and nominated.

    I think it’d be more realistic that Red gets a country nomination. It’s mostly country except for about 5-6 songs but there are 16 songs so it’s more than half country. It should be the first country album put in. It is the best seller, and the most highly critically acclaimed of all of the album possible for a nomination for Country Album of the Year. I just don’t think they will nominate it pop because she’s a country act that dabbles in pop.   

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    [quote=”swiftisawesome”][quote=”joesilver”][quote=”swiftisawesome”][quote=”GoMe91″]It SHOULD be pop, There was nothing country about her 2 biggest hits from the album.

    I don’t know much about Grammy voting, but doesn’t Swift have a choice as to what genre she can submit an album/song?

    Her and her label get a say, they submit the album to whatever genre they believe. It would be the smartest move to submit it to country.  [/quote]

    If the Academy feels the album doesn’t belong to country they will move the album to pop. After all the album has like 3 country songs.[/quote]

    Actually it’s more like this:
    Country: State of Grace, Red, Treacherous, All To Well, I Almost Do, Stay Stay Stay, The Last Time, Holy Ground, Sad Beautiful Tragic, The Lucky One, Everything has Changed, Begin Again

    Pop: I Knew You Were Trouble, 22, We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together, Starlight. 

    Have you ever listened to it? I’m sure you haven’t its dominately country, she just dabbles in pop, even country critics praised the album as a country album. Taylor is part of a genre called COUNTRY POP. Just like, Lady Antebellum, Jason Aldean, Carrie Underwood, The Band Perry, Blake Shelton, Shania Twain, Leann Rimes etc.       [/quote]

    Yes, I own it. So, I guess you take anything as someone says it is?   

    Pop: ‘I Knew You Were Trouble’, ’22’, ‘We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together’, ‘Starlight’

    Pop Rock: ‘State of Grace’, ‘The Last Time’, ‘Everything Has Changed’, ‘Holy Ground’, ‘Sad Beautiful Tragic’ (nothing country about these)

    Country-ish: The rest. And that’s stretching.

    It’s not like that’s a bad thing. And of course country claims her and plays her: she makes a lot of money, gets a lot of listens for their stations. But is ANYTHING on ‘Red’ true blue country? Not really… It all has pop leanings.  

    It won’t shock me if she goes country. But it won’t shock me if they move her to pop where this particular album belongs.

    ‘Red’ is to country what Black Eyed Peas ‘The E.N.D.’ is to rap; IT’S NOT. [/quote]

    Actually if you read the reviews Holy Ground and Everything Has Changed were HIGHLY praised by country critics and they said if released as single they both would hit #1. They’re country songs. So that’s 6/16 are pop or pop/rock. When the Grammy’s classify an album they say it needs to be one half that genre to be nominated. Red is more than half country. It will be nominated country, that’s pretty much a given, unless Big Machine enters it as pop, which in my opinon would be a TERRIBLE move. Everything now a days in country music has pop leanings. Listen to Lady Antebellum, Jason Aldean, Blake Shelton, Shania Twain, Luke Bryan, CARRIE UNDERWOOD, Florida Georgia Line, Keith Urban, etc they all dip into pop and I personally consider them Country-Pop. Taylor is country-pop and that’s good enough for a country nomination for a country act, considering country sales are so low. And I would say Begin Again, Stay Stay Stay, I Almost Do, All To Well, Red, The Lucky One, Holy Ground, and Everything Has Changed are the most country songs on the record and they are the best songs on the album.  

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    But very few popular country albums today are true blue country. Taylor isn’t the first and won’t be the last artist to take advantage of blended, ambiguous genres. Besides having a few overty pop songs I don’t see or rather hear much difference in style between this album and her previous efforts.

    I agree with this, people complain about Red being too pop. But Speak Now had just as much pop, it just wasn’t over produced pop Max Martin, pop for example. I Knew You Were Trouble, 22, We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together are clearly pop songs. But everything else on the album sounds like the normal Taylor from past albums Fearless and Speak Now, with just deeper and more emotional lyrics. And that is a great statement that NOTHING is actual true blue country. CARRIE UNDERWOOD is a big offender she is often called country but I greatly feel she is a mix of pop and rock. And Jason Aldean, Blake Shelton, Luke Bryan, Hunter Hayes, The Band Perry, Keith Urban etc. are all country-pop like Taylor. Taylor deserves a nomination in the country category as much as one would say these artists do.

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