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    Two years in a row now we’ve seen a picture/director split, and one year the Best Picture winning film was not even nominated for Best Director.

    This of course raises the question: should Best Picture and Best Director always match? Logically, shouldn’t the best picture of the year be the best directed? Or can a film be the best directed film of the year, but not the best film of the year overall?

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    Beau S.
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    I don’t think they have to go together, but there are very few times when they don’t.

    For example, in my Oscar world (not counting ties):

    1959
    Best Picture: Some Like it Hot
    Best Director: Otto Preminger, Anatomy of a Murder

    1968
    Best Picture: The Lion in Winter
    Best Director: Stanley Kubrick, 2001: A Space Odyssey

    1995
    Best Picture: The Usual Suspects
    Best Director: David Fincher, Se7en

    That’s it.

    So yeah, I think it’s possible. But incredibly rare.

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    Ashkan
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    BAFTA gave Fargo and Social Network director while giving English Patient and King’s Speech picture. It would have been nice to see the oscars do something similar. (although the previously mentioned films deserved director with picture as well).

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    Tyler The Awesome Guy
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    I feel that often times, it is necessary to award Best Director and Picture to two different films. IMO: Last year, I gave Lincoln Best Picture of the Year in My awards, but Ben Affleck also won Director for Argo because I felt that even though Argo was second, the direction for Argo was simply better than the direction for Lincoln. Ironic, considering that Spielberg is my all-time favourite director.

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    ETPhoneHome
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    For the most part they line up, but sometimes the director isn’t fully responsible for the quality. An example for me was 1994, where Zemeckis deserved to win for directing, but Shawshank is the better overall film, but mostly from the writing. Or, like this year, there were two excellently directed films and Cuaron deserved to win even though it wasn’t a better film than 12 a Years.

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    BTN
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    I agree with Cauron director but not Gravity in picture. If Cauron winning an award meant gravity winning picture I would say no. Sometimes a picture win is all about acting and screenplay and maybe direction is more suited to another movie like 12 years a slave. Not that everything in 12 years a slave happened in some directorial vacuum but the work on another movie was more director oriented.

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    babypook
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    Why have a Director Category then? If they go hand ih hand, I’d say announcing Best Picture becomes redundant and anti climactic.

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    Typically when I split who was best in my personal awards, picture goes to my favorite while director goes to what was better. But that’s not a real way to do it (though I think that’s how some vote). There are certainly times when a movie can be better due to factors that the director has minimal control over. Shawshank vs. Gump is a great example (but it’s a moot point because Pulp Fiction is better in both regards).

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    Matty G
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    I would actually argue that Picture and Director don’t split enough. I’ve always thought of direction as being closely related to best use of visuals. Not necessarily the flashiest visuals, but the most effective use of them. My personal BP choice comes down to writing + directing. Perfect example…I would choose Ordinary People as the 1980 BP based largely on the strength of its story (more relatable than the others), and yet I’d rank Lynch and Scorsese above Redford for Director because their films are more visually effective. I think it comes down to whether you are a bigger fan of outstanding writing or outstanding direction. I fall into the former category, so the Kramer vs. Kramers and Ordinary Peoples will get my vote more often than not.

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    Laactingnyc
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    No they don’t have to match. But i do think Gravity should have won both this year. 

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    No.

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    Anthony
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    I would actually argue that Picture and Director don’t split enough. I’ve always thought of direction as being closely related to best use of visuals. Not necessarily the flashiest visuals, but the most effective use of them. My personal BP choice comes down to writing + directing. Perfect example…I would choose Ordinary People as the 1980 BP based largely on the strength of its story (more relatable than the others), and yet I’d rank Lynch and Scorsese above Redford for Director because their films are more visually effective. I think it comes down to whether you are a bigger fan of outstanding writing or outstanding direction. I fall into the former category, so the Kramer vs. Kramers and Ordinary Peoples will get my vote more often than not.

    THIS. This is exactly how I feel, particularly regarding the Ordinary People/Raging Bull scenario.

    I know Raging Bull typically gets the most praise and many feel it was unfairly snubbed in Best Picture, but I have always been more moved and affected by the intense drama of Ordinary People…and that came from the acting and the screenplay, which yes Redford helped guide that along but the style/images created by Scorsese in Raging Bull and also Lynch with Elephant Man stayed with me longer, even though I didn’t find them to be as satisfying as Ordinary People, which I know isn’t as common an opinion.

    And Kramer vs. Kramer is another great example. While I often debate over whether or not I would give it Best Picture over All That Jazz, I usually consider Director to be a battle between Fosse for JAZZ and Coppola for Apocalypse Now…although I tend to go more for Coppola.

     

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