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  • awardskel
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    #541015

    thoughts?

    Me: 1. The Dark Knight, 2. Memento, 3. The Prestige…

    Inception was a well-made film, but something about it seemed a bit stale to me. How many times have we seen the dream-within-a-dream-within-a-dream scenario play out in other movies and tv shows, namely cartoons? A lot. Sure, never to this extent and with this much gravitas, but I would rather have the fanboys/filmmakers would call this a “thorough and unique spin on a familiar story concept” than a “bold and brave new idea,” or something to that extent. Also, it just oozes a “look at me, look how important and frigging amazing I am” fanboy vibe, which turns me off completely. These movies, which makes millions upon millions, do not need my money. I pay for some other film, a low budget/underappreciated film, perhaps, and then sneak into these types of films. The fact that it is not based on anything, like the far superior TDK is, makes the ego-inflated vibe much worse. I am much more of a fan of the films that just sneak up on you at the last minute. Something like District 9, Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, Black Swan and The Visitor, to name just a few.

    Also, may I be the first to say that Hans Zimmer’s score to Inception was just a bit too bombastic and self-serving…

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    theproblemdog
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    haha when I saw the title of this, I thought it was about a remake of Sophie’s Choice directed by Christopher Nolan. I got scared. haha I love Nolan, but… no. Just no. but anyways, I respect your opinions about Inception, even though it’s my personal favorite. it’s not a film for everyone. haha but I can’t bring myself to agree with you statements about Zimmer’s score. It was gorgeous. Perfect. Hell I even have the whole thing on my ipod. It should’ve won the Oscar. But that’s just me.

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    JayDF
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    Going to have to agree with you, DARK KNIGHT & MEMENTO are the top 2.  Not a huge fan of INCEPTION as well.

    thoughts?

    Me: 1. The Dark Knight, 2. Memento, 3. The Prestige…

    Inception was a well-made film, but something about it seemed a bit stale to me. How many times have we seen the dream-within-a-dream-within-a-dream scenario play out in other movies and tv shows, namely cartoons? A lot. Sure, never to this extent and with this much gravitas, but I would rather have the fanboys/filmmakers would call this a “thorough and unique spin on a familiar story concept” than a “bold and brave new idea,” or something to that extent. Also, it just oozes a “look at me, look how important and frigging amazing I am” fanboy vibe, which turns me off completely. These movies, which makes millions upon millions, do not need my money. I pay for some other film, a low budget/underappreciated film, perhaps, and then sneak into these types of films. The fact that it is not based on anything, like the far superior TDK is, makes the ego-inflated vibe much worse. I am much more of a fan of the films that just sneak up on you at the last minute. Something like District 9, Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, Black Swan and The Visitor, to name just a few.

    Also, may I be the first to say that Hans Zimmer’s score to Inception was just a bit too bombastic and self-serving…

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    awardskel
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    haha when I saw the title of this, I thought it was about a remake of Sophie’s Choice directed by Christopher Nolan. I got scared. haha I love Nolan, but… no. Just no.

     

    but anyways, I respect your opinions about Inception, even though it’s my personal favorite. it’s not a film for everyone. haha but I can’t bring myself to agree with you statements about Zimmer’s score. It was gorgeous. Perfect. Hell I even have the whole thing on my ipod. It should’ve won the Oscar. But that’s just me.

    The concept of Nolan’s Sophie’s Choice: a nightmare within a nightmare..

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    Trent
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    I adamently disagree about Zimmer’s score to Inception, which I consider his greatest work since The Lion King and I also have on my iPod.

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    babypook
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    I almost went with Memento, but changed my mind and went with Inception (before I read anybody’s opinions in this thread). That was my favorite score that year btw.

    Many disagree, but imo, the screenplay for Inception is a brilliant entry into mainstream fare.

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    awardskel
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    What about his score to the Thin Red Line…his best work to date. Followed by TDK and then Rain Man. His score to The Lion King was good, but not nearly as memorable as the film’s individual songs…

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    Trent
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    The Lion King is by far his most underrated work, maybe not his best (I’m very biased towards scores for animated films, particularly Disney Renaissance and Disney Pixar era). If you take the time to listen to the score straight without the movie, it captures the beauty of the film’s intended environment (Africana) while also making the movie accessible to children.

    The Thin Red Line’s score was magnificent, particularly “Journey to the Line.” That entire movie is magnificent and would have been much better remembered and probably have done much better in the box office had it not been released in Saving Private Ryan’s shadow.

    As for Rain Man, the score was also great, as was the Dark Knight’s (the entire Batman trilogy, actually). This continuous brilliance reaffirms the point I ALWAYS make on this board that Hans Zimmer is our greatest living composer. 

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    I happen to feel that The Thin Red Line is a better-crafted film than Ryan, although the sound and sound editing and editing in general are terrific in the latter.

    I knew it had absolutely no chance, since Spielberg’s foray into “serious” Oscar fare was noted by all.

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    I almost voted for Memento or Insomnia, his smaller budget films are very well executed but I ended up going with the consensus, The Dark Knight.

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    I love The Dark Knight. I think it was an amazing movie and the best of 2008 (still haven’t seen Synedoche, New York). But Inception is a masterpiece… Nolan probably will never be able to top it.

    I am so scared for Christopher Nolan’s reputation as a filmmaker. He is visionary in a visual and storytelling way. Because his aesthetic style and the genres he works in do not allow him to create great characters, he uses thematic threads to hold his movies together.

    Inception is a masterpiece, IMHO of course, because of the way it combines crowd-pleasing elements with a really complex and complicated story and premise (which sometimes is what makes a movie great a la The Truman Show). I know it’s got line after line of exposition but look at this quote from Nolan himself:

    “One of the fascinating things about the heist movie, and one of the reasons I took this as the model, is that the type of exposition that in most films is problematic, boring, tricky, hard to get through in a heist movie becomes the meat of it.”

    That is why I think Inception can’t be faulted for its continued use of exposition, since it was a well-thought out aesthetic choice.

    But in 50 years, that blend will not be valued because the SFX will be outdated. So maybe people just won’t see what Nolan did there. And I look forward to that moment, 50 years from now (actually… I think I can wait a little till then) when I will watch Inception again and see if it holds up. I hope to god it does. If it withstands the test of time with my children and grandchildren and myself… I will hail Nolan to high heavens.

    But anyway… Inception is my answer. The best movie of this decade so far (in the distant future, though, “The Mastercould overtake it, but that’s very improbable) and one of the best movies ever made (go: cry heresy. Come on. I’ll be ready for battle if necessary.)

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    babypook
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    ^
    Well, all I can say about your post is

    Yay!

    I dont think we need to worry all that much about Nolan. The guy is a far better Director than some of the ones getting so much attention this year. He’s daring, creative, versatile, a risk taker, intelligent, and doesnt make paintbynumbers films. He also brings out terrific perfs from his cast, without being overbearing.
    He’ll “rise” again, and hopefully he’ll stay true to his own vision. He has so far.

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    The Lion King is by far his most underrated work, maybe not his best (I’m very biased towards scores for animated films, particularly Disney Renaissance and Disney Pixar era).  

    Underrated enough to be his only Oscar-winning score?  

    I kid, I kid.       

    The Dark Knight for me. Such a well-paced film that transcends its genre and features one of its decade’s finest performances in Heath Ledger’s Joker. Memento and Inception closely follow it.

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