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  • Miss Frost
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    There’s a thread for this for the television and broadway world. So which female artist do you think reached the success, achievements, range, and talent that the greatest film actress Meryl Streep has in the musical world? (Note; most of these women mentioned have been around more than a couple decades like Streep, so I didn’t put any newer artists down.)

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    Some of these owmen have accomplished more int ehir medium than Meryl’s equivalent in the music world. Like, Meryl doesn’t have the repect and influence and impact on film some of these women had on music. Madonna for example is bigger than Meryl Streep.
    Diana Ross and Tina Turner and (as much as I don’t like her) Barbra Streisand are at least as big. And Kylie is too cool to be a Streep . 

    But I have to say, I find the whole premise of looking for Streeps in every medium a bit odd. 

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    Mrs. Doolittle
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    Of this list…um maybe Barbra or Madonna? Very hard to say.

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    Madonna did beat her for the role of Evita, so..

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    I think Streep’s role in film acting is certainly on par with Madonna’s role in music.  The impact on acting is the key not on film in general.  And as for as influence is concerned I would Streep’s influence on acting is MAJOR and just as major as these ladies…music is a whole different kind of animal too.

    I pick Streisand, when looking at awards…She is the most nominated pop female vocalist and ties Ella Fitzgerald for the most winning pop female vocalist at the grammys.

    Some of these owmen have accomplished more int ehir medium than Meryl’s equivalent in the music world. Like, Meryl doesn’t have the repect and influence and impact on film some of these women had on music. Madonna for example is bigger than Meryl Streep.
    Diana Ross and Tina Turner and (as much as I don’t like her) Barbra Streisand are at least as big. And Kylie is too cool to be a Streep . 

    But I have to say, I find the whole premise of looking for Streeps in every medium a bit odd. 

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    JayDF
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    Madonna did beat her for the role of Evita, so..

    I may have dreamed this, but I remember when Oliver Stone was set as a director for EVITA, the studio wanted Streep who wasn’t available at the time???  I could be totally wrong about this or was stoned or something since this was when I was in college y’know. 

    That being said Streep would have been sooooooooooooooooooooo much better!!! 

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    [quote=”Dannyboy”]Madonna did beat her for the role of Evita, so..

    I may have dreamed this, but I remember when Oliver Stone was set as a director for EVITA, the studio wanted Streep who wasn’t available at the time???  I could be totally wrong about this or was stoned or something since this was when I was in college y’know. 

    That being said Streep would have been sooooooooooooooooooooo much better!!! [/quote]
    I think they originally wanted Streep, but Madonna heavily campaigned for the role, so they gave it to her. Its quite ironic since Madonna was originally to star in Music of the Heart but dropped out of it, so they gave Meryl the role lol.

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    Mozart, Ravel, Liszt, Rachmaninov, Lennon and McCartney

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    BamaEd
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    Aretha. The talent, the longevity, the versatility.

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    allabout oscars
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    STREISAND…..STREEP… they both ahve the “STRE” factor…lol

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    Nope, Michelle Pfeiffer had the role, and dropped out.. Streep (allegedly) fought hard for the role, even making the joke, ‘I’ll rip her throat out (Madonna)’ in order to get the part. Quite obviously a joke when in context. Madonna lobbied hard after Pfeiffer left and won.

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    [quote=”Dannyboy”]Madonna did beat her for the role of Evita, so..

    I may have dreamed this, but I remember when Oliver Stone was set as a director for EVITA, the studio wanted Streep who wasn’t available at the time???  I could be totally wrong about this or was stoned or something since this was when I was in college y’know. 

    That being said Streep would have been sooooooooooooooooooooo much better!!! [/quote]

    Madonna was cast after she wrote a long and desperate letter to director Alan Parker
    convincing him she was perfect to play the role. The letter was
    accompanied by a copy of her video for “Take A Bow” where she had
    specifically asked the director that it should resemble the ’40s and
    ’50s.

    Maria Conchita Alonso was also considered for the role of Evita.

    Meryl Streep auditioned three times for the role and travelled from NY to LA numerous times to speak with Alan Parker and the producers of the film. This is the most desired role for Meryl Streep ever. This can be explained because Meryl changed in 1990/1991 of agency. She had a status that had to be maintained (See: She wasn’t nominated for Oscars between 1992-1995).

    1991-1992: Meryl Streep was offered the part but declined. Instead, she filmed ‘Defending your life’, ‘The House of the Spirits’, ‘Death Becomes Her’ and ‘The River Wild’.
    1994: Oliver Stone left the project.
    May 1995: Meryl Streep got great buzz for ‘The Bridges of Madison County’. She was in the radar again for the role, specially since Meryl’s change of agency and her age crisis.
    Summer 1995: Madonna got the part.

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    This is what wikipedia says (of course validity there is wildly uneven –  I mean Ken Russell wanted Liza!!!)

    Discussion of the film production began soon after the original production was staged in London in 1978. Several actresses were considered for the role of Eva Perón. At one point, Lloyd Webber favoured an actress of Spanish descent to play the lead role and he suggested Charo. Next, Meryl Streep was offered the role, but the production was delayed, and she could not participate.

    Meanwhile, Madonna had been campaigning for the part, but when Parker was ready for filming, several people objected to Madonna’s playing the part. When director Ken Russell was attached to the project, he favored Liza Minnelli, who spent some time researching background and locations in Argentina.

    CherBarbra StreisandGlenn CloseOlivia Newton-John, and Michelle Pfeiffer were thought to have been involved. Pfeiffer, who recorded a number of demonstration musical tracks, was almost cast for the role, but Parker wanted to shoot the picture on location, not in Pfeiffer’s preferred Hollywood sound studio.

    Patti LuPone was not offered the opportunity to repeat her Broadway role as Evita. As an actress in her forties she was believed to be too old to play the part of Eva Perón, who died at the age of 33.

    THEN IMDB says:

    Meryl StreepPia ZadoraCharo, and Maria Conchita Alonso were considered for the role of Evita. 
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    Michelle Pfeiffer also was considered for the role of Eva Peron, and when the film was to be directed by Oliver Stone she even had taken a good few months voice training for the role. 
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    Ken Russell was the first director attached. His first choice to play Eva was Barbra Streisand, who turned him down. His second choice was Liza Minnelli, who he screen-tested, but her casting was vetoed by lyricist Tim Rice, who wanted Elaine Paige, who had originated the stage role in London. Paige was also Rice’s girlfriend.  

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    I think Streep’s role in film acting is certainly on par with Madonna’s role in music.  The impact on acting is the key not on film in general.  And as for as influence is concerned I would Streep’s influence on acting is MAJOR and just as major as these ladies…music is a whole different kind of animal too.

    I pick Streisand, when looking at awards…She is the most nominated pop female vocalist and ties Ella Fitzgerald for the most winning pop female vocalist at the grammys.

    [quote=”Renato_Miranda”]Some of these owmen have accomplished more int ehir medium than Meryl’s equivalent in the music world. Like, Meryl doesn’t have the repect and influence and impact on film some of these women had on music. Madonna for example is bigger than Meryl Streep.
    Diana Ross and Tina Turner and (as much as I don’t like her) Barbra Streisand are at least as big. And Kylie is too cool to be a Streep . 

    But I have to say, I find the whole premise of looking for Streeps in every medium a bit odd. 

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    Meryl Streep has not changed her medium. She infleunced a lot of actors, but she didn’t really change anything, in theater or film. Madonna? She started a whole new kind of popstar, and that changed music and pop to the core. So yeah, Madonna accomplished more, regardless fo awards. 

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